Why is so important to say goodbye.....  |
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| We had the funeral and celebration of life with my birth father in law on Monday and Tuesday. It was an emotional couple of weeks for us...and it got me to thinking about burial rites and why we feel they are so important to do them and how we do them. Dave and his deceased wife made the decision to be cremated and so today we went to the mountains and spread their mingled ashes on a mountain side where they camped and fished...a beautiful calm place filled with wildflowers and aspen. I thought how absolutely perfect this was for a man that loved the Colorado Rockies so very much. The funeral service was simply put...amazing. They made us laugh so hard that I couldn't stop giggling...and cried and told so many stories....it was soothing to our bruised and battered souls. And our friends came two hours away to a funeral of someone they'd never met...and really got a taste of Dave our lost dad. I know it seems weird that we could mourn the loss of a birth dad we'd only known for 4 yrs but the fact is; we fell in love with him the first time we met. It was such a joyful experience..... So Why was it? Why is saying goodbye so important? I mean after all; we were with Dave when he died....we had said our goodbyes to him in person....it wasn't like we didn't get a chance in life to do so.... So why is it important to do this? And what are these celebrations of burial...are they rooted in the body of Christ and God or are they pagan things....or maybe just logistics? Do we need the burial and the funeral for us or is it just a ceremony? | | | | | |
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1. underdogy (390)
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3 years ago
| | Goodbye means "God be with you" so technically it just saying that God will always be with you, that you will be safe. It is important because you're blessing the person in a way of asking God to protect whom you said goodbye to. I am not sure about the burial celebration if it's rooted in the body of Christ or if it's pagan things but having this ceremony, with all the prayers and your presence to be their, is indeed important. It's like saying "God be with you" on the last day of the person's body before burying six feet below the ground, until he goes to heaven. | | | | | | |
hornswaggled (2074)
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3 years ago
| | I think you're right....it isn't important as long as it's done in love right? And it is all about closure...although I really don't like how much this word is used.....it does describe it well. | | | |
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2. neededhope (552)
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3 years ago
| | I believe the whole funeral and burial services are for those of us that are left on this Earth. For us to have one fair chance to say good bye. To give a ending of there life and celebrate the years that we got to spend togetheir. Yes it's sad and yes it brings tears to are eyes. Of Grief and happiness just knowing that we have known them in are lives. To me when we die are bodiess they are lifeless... we are no longer there... So are spirts are already taken.. Like I said are bodiess to be laid to rest are for those of are families are friends to have one last time to see us and get to getheir to celebrate the life we've had. It's important because it's a way to put closure in are hearts for our loved lost one. | | | | | | |
hornswaggled (2074)
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3 years ago
| | That's funny.....I just said closure...a word used often to express this feeling of need; to get past a particular issue. I do hope that this will be closure for my husband. He had just found his birth dad about 4 yrs ago....so it wasn't near long enough. | | | |
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3. krajibg (4930)
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3 years ago
| | Hi there, very engrossing topic. What you did for your friend is more than one could imagine and you got a chance to say good bye too. This good bye is important for this is the end and at the end we say good bye. Just what you know? even when we part from each other after spending sometime together we say good bye for a 'good bye' is the end and we are not sure if or not we would meet again. If met would laugh and share and if not adieu my friend. Perhaps this is why this is so important. | | | | | | |
hornswaggled (2074)
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3 years ago
| | That's very true and it's important to keep in touch with our family and friends isn't it? | | | |
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4. hwoarangpoy (159)
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3 years ago
| | Saying goodbye does not mean that you should forget the good times. It is only done for closure. Would you rather not say goodbye and not know if that person exist? You are still fortunate enough to have given your final I love you and Sorry. I know a few that is still searching for their love one's presence. Your dad is at home now. It is nice to know that someone is waiting for you in the other side don't you think? | | | | | | |
hornswaggled (2074)
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3 years ago
| | It is nice to know but it's still hard to say goodbye. I done it many times; and it never gets easier. I think that funerals can be a good thing or a bad thing depending on how you look at it or feel about that person. | | | |
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6. zed_k4 (7705)
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3 years ago
| | I'm so sorry for your loss. I think a burial is like a total closure. Like that is in the form of goodbye. It is also like a form of formality; like giving back to God back the body; spiritually, that's what I think.. Different religion have different ways of expressing this but most have a proper closure. In a basic sense sort of way.. | | | | | | |
hornswaggled (2074)
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3 years ago
| | I like that very much...giving back God the body....it seems right doesn't it? I do like cremation for that reason....you get to be a part of doing that....you know...ashes to ashes...dust to dust... | | | |
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hornswaggled (2074)
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3 years ago
| | That's something that is hard for me to ignore. I have lived with death around me since I was very young. It gives you a very different perspective on life; that does.... | | | |
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7. lynnemg (4035)
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3 years ago
| | To me, saying goodbye, those final acts of burial, help to make it all a realtiy. Let me explain. Eleven years ago, at only 5 weeks and 2 days old, my son passed away. It was, needless to say, a very traumatic time for me and my family. I was in a state of denial about his death until the time came for his funeral. For the three days after he passed away until his funeral, there was a huge part of me that wanted to believe it was all a horrible nightmare that I would awaken from. WHen we had his funeral services and told him goodbye, there was a sense of closure for me. As much as I didn't want to admit it, it was final, and I had to accept that he truly was gone from this earth. Had I not been there, I could have very well gone on in a state of denail for a long time. When my Grandmother passes away last year, I was unable to go to her funeral. It didn't really sink in to me that she was gone until later on in the year when Grandpa passed too and I was able to go to his funeral. So, to me, Grandma's death was not really real until I went to Grandpa's funeral and she wasn't there. This may not make much sense to you, but it does to me. I feel that in a wary, a funeral service is more to help those of us that are grieving to accept reality than anything else My other Grandpa passed away some years ago, and as he had alwaysd requested, we had him cremated and then, after a month or so, we held a memorial partty for him. It was his wish that we wait until we could look back and remember him how he was in his younger years; before his death. He didn't want any of us to cry for him because he knew that he would be in a much better place once he died. For me, the fact that there was never really a funeral didn't really giveme closure. Having a memorial party, as he wished, did help me to think of him as he wanted to be remembered, but it gaveme little in the closure department. To this day, when I think about him, I think of him as he was when I was younger and he was still alive. That's not a bad thing except that, although I know he is gone, I never had that chance to really grieve for him and say goodbye. | | | | | | |
hornswaggled (2074)
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3 years ago
| | Lynn, I am so sorry for you losses! Your son's especially must have been heartbreaking....my sympathies to you! I think you're right; and the funeral is important. It's a wonderful way to feel like you celebrate the life of this person; to let others know that you loved them. I have been to so many funerals in my life...my grandfather when I was 4, my mom when I was 9, my dad when I was 17 my grandpa when I was 19. The list can go on and on. But we have to put our heads up and move forward don't we...and it's important that others know we are going to be ok. | | | |
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8. book1962 (16793)
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3 years ago
| | hi horns my friend, I think it is important for us to have these burial rites whatever they are based on our culture and upbringing. It is important to put that outward shell, the body to rest as a visible way of saying good bye. Somehow to come to terms with the fact the beloved person is not with us visibly any more but there is a saying here, only these who are forgotten are really dead. And no you are not weird for these deep feelings at the funeral and the spreading of ashes when you have only known Dave for 4 years. I only knew my dad in law for 6 months when it was his time to go and I was heartbroken and devastated. I was not really considered family at that time cause we were only engaged and had not set a marriage date yet. But I was the only one of the family who cried. | | | | | | |
hornswaggled (2074)
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3 years ago
| | And isn't that sad?!? I loved this man not only for his absolute ability to make others feel welcome but to look at him and to say that this is my husband.....my hubby is so like his father. Not so much to look at but for his wonderful personality; his charm and his kindness. I am really glad we got to know his other family. He had no other children and was an only child so the family I refer to is his late wife's brother and his family. My hubby and I got really close to his niece from this family and she is just a joy. She and I have made a pact to stay together and to do family things. They are all so pleased to meet my husband. I love that they are so kind to us....in fact her dad (Daves' brother in law) told us that it was comforting to know that Dave lives on in my husband and kids....what a lovely sentiment! | | | |
book1962 (16793)
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3 years ago
| | I think deep down they mocked me for crying when the casket was rolled out of the hall there and my beloved Dad was on his last way on earth. I am so glad you had these four years with Dave and you saw so much good in him and also your hubs being like him in so many ways. | | | |
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