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Associated Press Photo of Fatally Wounded Marine Stirs Controversy email this discussion to a friend?

myLot reputation of 95/100. The_Lamb_Lies_Down (2716)   ranked 23 out of 6,346 in politics4 months ago

The Associated Press comes under fire by Defense Secretary Robert Gates for the AP printing a photo of two Marines coming to the aid of a fellow 21 year old Marine who paid the ultimate price for a people's freedom when he later died of his injuries.

In a letter to Associated Press President and CEO Thomas Curley, Gates said he was asking the AP to reconsider its decision to distribute the photo "in the strongest of terms" and called the decision "appalling" and lacking in "common decency."

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/press-photo-lance-cpl-joshua-bernard-stirs-controversy/story?id=8494094

Yes...how DARE the Associated Press publish a photo depicting the real life horrors of WAR, and showing that people, OUR people, do in fact get killed in foreign countries?

How DARE the AP publish a photo showing the attempt of fellow Marines to get their mortally wounded comrade to safety?

Yes, the AP should be ASHAMED of themselves for telling and showing it like it is.

They should only show the goodness that comes from WAR... doh

WAKE UP AMERICA.

Why are people mad at a news agency for depicting the truth?

Yes, an American soldier died...but this is NOT a picture of his dead blasted-to-pieces body...it is a photo of what happens when there is a WAR, and of people trying to save their friend...

Do you think the AP should have withheld this photo from publication?

If so, why?

Do you think the AP was right in distributing this photo?

Why?

 
 
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tags:  war, marine, associated press, death of a marine, war is ugly
 
1. myLot reputation of 88/100. lotterylover (4767)   ranked 1,005 out of 6,346 in politics   4 months ago

They are suppose to have the freedom to print what they want. Sometimes we need to be made aware of what is going on or we forget unless we are the ones who are loosing loved ones in war.


myLot reputation of 88/100. dvmurphy (210)   ranked 167 out of 6,346 in politics  4 months ago

The associated press is more concerned about sensationlism than respecting the wishes of the fallen marine's family. Their son is DEAD and they do not want his image staring back at them in the media in their grief. Images of their mortally wounded son are horrible for them to see.


myLot reputation of 96/100. peavey (3760)   ranked 496 out of 6,346 in politics  4 months ago

dvmurphy, I'm curious. Did you even see the picture?

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2. myLot reputation of 96/100. thea09 (4322)   ranked 274 out of 6,346 in politics   4 months ago

Hi lamby, the true pictures of war should always be shown and if people are squeamish about seeing them then they aren't obliged to. I always take the view that as even children are casulaties of war we should not keep these images hidden from our own children so that they can better understand what is happening in the world.
Unfortuntely images like that don't support celebrity which is the world most of the media seem to inhabit these days rather than reporting real news.

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3. myLot reputation of 78/100. whiteheather39 (13321)   ranked 212 out of 6,346 in politics   4 months ago

For once the media publishes the truth and they get hell for it. I am so disgusted with the media covering up realities about.... Obama and war. Why so many people live in a dream world fostered by the media and politicians is beyond me. At least I am one of the few people who prefer the truth not being gullible like so many idiots.


myLot reputation of 78/100. whiteheather39 (13321)   ranked 212 out of 6,346 in politics  4 months ago

oops should read...."prefer to live in a dream world".....

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4. myLot reputation of 99/100. jheLaichie (2009)   ranked 1,304 out of 6,346 in politics   4 months ago

for the price of being on the war. its better he did it that way.

we are all so innocent of on how and what are happening out there. where our fellow country is fighting for our country and yet they ended up just heroes but still we dont know the real score of what is truly happeningto that war and specially to the soldiers of that war. angry

we have the right to know the truth and for me the AP is doing the right thing. we must be aware of the war and the casualties and the people who are involved and die in that dreadful moment of someone elses life. real life, involves real people.

we must be aware of it. and reflect on it for the rest of our lives and deal on how and why are those things happens. and why would they do not like others to know what is and how the war is... but still i want to know the truth! and thats just it!

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5. myLot reputation of 77/100. Strongheart (1079)   ranked 514 out of 6,346 in politics   4 months ago

I followed your link and the links that led from it and never saw the photo in question but have a good idea about it from the descriptions given in the articles. I don't believe the AP did anything wrong. As the reporter said, she was showing people what happens and how people tried to save him. To me, I see no difference between this and showing a car crash victim being loaded in an ambulance as far as content is concerned. It does pull at my heart strings though to know that another vet has fallen cause these kids are my heros!


myLot reputation of 95/100. The_Lamb_Lies_Down (2716)   ranked 23 out of 6,346 in politics  4 months ago

http://images.google.com/...


myLot reputation of 95/100. The_Lamb_Lies_Down (2716)   ranked 23 out of 6,346 in politics  4 months ago

I'm choosing not to show the actual photo, but this link takes you to it.


myLot reputation of 50/100. Taskr36 (4580)   ranked 419 out of 6,346 in politics  4 months ago

The difference is simple. With a victim going into an ambulance they are reporting the news for the sake of reporting. In this instance however, they are showing these photos for shock value and controversy. They are openly opposing the wishes of this man's family because it adds to their publicity. They are using this man and his family as pawns in their game of publicity.


myLot reputation of 95/100. The_Lamb_Lies_Down (2716)   ranked 23 out of 6,346 in politics  4 months ago



The photo was going to be published regardless of what his family wished. They didn't contact the family to ask permission, but simply to show the family what was going to be published. Are you only opposing it because his family did, or are you opposed to it on different grounds? Should all the family members of people that die in an airplane/jet airliner crash be polled as to whether images of the crash should be published?

It is a real life photo of an unfortunate real life situation.

It is a WAR that is being reported on...it is not "news for the sake of reporting" as you state it.

In my opinion, all the people saying it shouldn't have been published are the ones using this man as a pawn in a game...


myLot reputation of 47/100. sndcain36 (2651)   ranked 604 out of 6,346 in politics  4 months ago

I'm sure Cindy Sheehan would have had no problem letting publishing a picture of her wounded and dying son.

For me, it's about the family; The AP could have taken the high road and they could have respected the family's wishes. I have no problem with the photo being published- war is what it is--but out of respect for the family the AP shouldn't have published it.

Those who want to "show the horrors of war" with this picture are ignoring the fact that someone's son died; someone who doesn't want to just be remembered as a body on a battlefield but someone who lived, and loved and served his country and deserves to be remembered for more than that one moment in his life.

It's about respecting those who serve and their families. That's more important to me than showing the horrors of war.




myLot reputation of 77/100. Strongheart (1079)   ranked 514 out of 6,346 in politics  3 months ago

Having read yet another version of the story and seeing the photo, I feel the AP SHOULD have respected the parents wishes. I was not aware when I first commented that his father did not want the photo released. The news should always respect the wishes of the family. My heart goes out to this young man's family and my prayers are with him.

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6. myLot reputation of 97/100. p1kef1sh (5635)   ranked 7 out of 6,346 in politics   4 months ago

I believe that it should be law that a picture of EVERY dead soldier is published in the state in which s/he is found by their colleagues. Maybe then, the a$$holes that think that sending troops to fight a war that they can never win, in a country that most cannot find on the map let alone understand why they are there, might just think again.


myLot reputation of 50/100. Taskr36 (4580)   ranked 419 out of 6,346 in politics  4 months ago

So you don't want a free press. You just want a press that supports your agenda and that's all. You don't care about or respect this man or his family.

 
7. myLot reputation of 50/100. Taskr36 (4580)   ranked 419 out of 6,346 in politics   4 months ago

Of course! Rather than honoring the dead and respecting the wishes of their family, we MUST use the deaths of men and women who serve this country for propaganda and profit. That's far more important than having a freaking soul.

A lot of people have died in this war. Many of them have families who would not have objected to such a thing. Have you even wondered why did the AP feel the need to use THIS soldier and his death for publicity and propaganda instead of another? The answer is so obvious I'm amazed you don't see it. They WANTED this controversy. They wanted people to object and they wanted people to insist it was necessary. They don't care about you. They don't care about the soldiers. They don't even care about showing the cost of war. They just care about headlines and publicity.


myLot reputation of 95/100. The_Lamb_Lies_Down (2716)   ranked 23 out of 6,346 in politics  4 months ago

You do realise there is no photo of his dead body, correct?

That it is a photo of two of his comrades going to him to help him.

Would you still be objecting if he hadn't later died?

You seem to know an awful lot about the reason this photo was published.

Do you perhaps works for them?

Or are you just stating your opinion?

My opinion seems to differ from yours...I see this as a photo of two people going to help a friend...you see it as exploiting death...two sides of the same coin...it is all in how you perceive it...


myLot reputation of 97/100. p1kef1sh (5635)   ranked 7 out of 6,346 in politics  4 months ago

Taskr - you made a comment about me not wanting a free press. That's exactly what I want. A press free to publish this kind of photograph to remind those of us sat at home enjoying our lives, that due to the incompetent morons that lead our countries young men and women are dying in places far from home. Of course AP want this controversy, it sells newspapers. I don't want to glorify battle death, I want it to stop. I also believe with all my heart that these brave people should be honoured. But the cause is not a good one. Bush/Blair have made too many wives widows and mothers minus a son. Sorry that you don't feel that way.

 
8. myLot reputation of 97/100. Polly1 (8463)   ranked 729 out of 6,346 in politics   4 months ago

When I first read your title, I thought to myself oh no. but my feelings was coming from a moms point of view, seeing her childs dead body on the news. But then I read your discussion and your point of view, you are totally right in my opinion. We as a society do need to see what happens in "War", its also good for us to see fellow soldiers trying to save their friends. We can sit here in the comfort of our homes, on our computers, we have no idea what is going on over seas, we don't know what it is like. Some people do know what is going on, they have been there. Too much of our news is sugar coated, the "real" news would be too upsetting and disturbing. Maybe it should be, it is true that the news does seem to be all bad. The news media can also show the "good" news too, there is plenty of that.

 
9. myLot reputation of 80/100. ZephyrSun (3492)   ranked 93 out of 6,346 in politics   4 months ago

This one I'm sorta torn on, I think that the warmongers would really see what happens in a war but, I also feel badly for the families of the men and women killed during war. Maybe if the press got permission from the family of the soldier than that would be better. It's just an issue with no simple answer.

And by the way, what are you doing in politics? LOL


myLot reputation of 95/100. The_Lamb_Lies_Down (2716)   ranked 23 out of 6,346 in politics  4 months ago

Getting ready to lose my "10" rating... doh


myLot reputation of 80/100. ZephyrSun (3492)   ranked 93 out of 6,346 in politics  4 months ago

Sorry dear, there are a few trolls here...


myLot reputation of 95/100. The_Lamb_Lies_Down (2716)   ranked 23 out of 6,346 in politics  4 months ago

Yep...dropped from 96 to 95 overnight... doh

 
10. myLot reputation of 98/100. mipen2006 (2431)   ranked 2,105 out of 6,346 in politics   4 months ago

Too many double standards, in too many areas. We see plenty of dead people in so many suicide bombing situations, I think Gates wants a one way street here. APP had every right.

 
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