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myLot reputation of 91/100. dumblnddzzy (10271)   ranked 1 out of 194 in dizzier than you3 months ago

Holy Grogan died September 9th 2009, ater plunging 30 ft. from a road bridgenea her home...She was hit by passng traffic....This death is the result of DOZENS of postings on her FaceBook wall that were extremly abusive & humiliating to her.....She had suffered for months IF NOT year's from 'Cyber-Bulling'.....How can people do this to another human being? HOW is it possible her prents knew NOTHING sbout this 'bullying'? Why didn't she come forward with this cyber- bullying?? HOW would you handle this IF it were happening to your child?? I'm not sure what i could OR would do about this....


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1214450/Mother-tells-tragic-Holly-tormented-Facebook-bullies.html

 
 
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1. myLot reputation of 95/100. LilyoftheThorns (3800)   3 months ago

omg! that is so awful! This isnt the first time someone has done something like this because of people over the internet! Remember that boy who killed himself on a webcam while I ton of people watched and CHEERED HIM ON!!!

People are really sick, and I don't know how they can be so cruel. Maybe they don't think it would result in something so bad--but that is still no excuse.

If people were cyber-bullying me I would just ignore them. i have so many people in my life who are good to me, any negative comments from people over the internet wouldn't bother me


myLot reputation of 91/100. dumblnddzzy (10271)   ranked 1 out of 194 in dizzier than you  3 months ago

Isn't it though?/ Inever heard abut that poor boy...how sad that is.. I too woul be able to ignoe aything someon were to do to me over the inernet, it's so sadthat it had to come to this kind of anending for her..my she restin peace...lori


myLot reputation of 95/100. LilyoftheThorns (3800)  3 months ago

Yeah, no one should have to go through so much pain and hurt before deciding to take their own life. I can't even imagine how her parents are handling it.

Do you know if the kids that were bullying her were people she knew from school or something, or were they just strangers from the internet? I can't imagine someone taking any kind of mean comments from strangers to heart.


myLot reputation of 91/100. dumblnddzzy (10271)   ranked 1 out of 194 in dizzier than you  3 months ago

They wre from her school, they also did this at school too.. I dn't undersand HOW no one could hav seen this, not a teacer or another student?//lori

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2. myLot reputation of 100/100. paula27661 (5387)   ranked 5 out of 194 in dizzier than you   3 months ago

What a tragedy! I have an almost eight year old daughter and bullying of any kind being cyber or at school is my biggest fear for her. It’s bad enough that she has a passive nature and one of her ‘friends’ is already bossing her around but to have people gang up on you like that...How sad and lonely this poor girl must have felt! She must have lived everyday with stress and anxiety...How terribly sad...And the cars that hit her, the drivers’ lives are affected forever!

I’ve spoken to my daughter’s friend’s mother already about the bossy behaviour, I am ever so vigilant of bullying, it’s a horrible way for a young person to go through life!


myLot reputation of 91/100. dumblnddzzy (10271)   ranked 1 out of 194 in dizzier than you  3 months ago

Yes it is toug growing up being bullie all of the time.. Believe it or not, i wasbullied all thru school to high school! i of courseNOW wll not stand or it anymore, t going to school was helll...lori


myLot reputation of 100/100. paula27661 (5387)   ranked 5 out of 194 in dizzier than you  3 months ago

How awful for you lori...It must have been awful...Glad to hear you don't put up with nonsense anymore!


myLot reputation of 91/100. dumblnddzzy (10271)   ranked 1 out of 194 in dizzier than you  3 months ago

Thank you, & yes it was awful, I never had any friends thruout hig school...but i do now..lori

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3. myLot reputation of 99/100. blackbriar (6279)   ranked 4 out of 194 in dizzier than you   3 months ago

This is so sad. What I don't understand is if bullys were doing this crap to her online, why didn't she just cancel her account at facebook? Why didn't her parents know about the facebook account and what was happening there before the girl died? Many questions unanswered.

This wouldn't happen to my child cause I won't let her get a social network account. My daughter, however, has had bullying issues at her school and I gave her all the advice I could but it was she who had to do something to stop the bullying. She did alright. 2 of the girls were sporting lots of bruises and 2 blackeyes when my daughter was done with them. Guess those karate classes really paid off.


myLot reputation of 91/100. dumblnddzzy (10271)   ranked 1 out of 194 in dizzier than you  3 months ago

Yes i also had a lot o questions after readin this story too... your daughter is luckyto have ha karate lssons, & to be able ot stand up t her bulies...good for her...lori


myLot reputation of 99/100. blackbriar (6279)   ranked 4 out of 194 in dizzier than you  3 months ago

Yes but it took a LOT of encouragement from her instructor and I before she would come up with the courage to stand up to those bullies. She is still lacking in self-confidence some but is getting better with lessons.


myLot reputation of 91/100. dumblnddzzy (10271)   ranked 1 out of 194 in dizzier than you  3 months ago

Gsh her self confidece shoul be soaring wit the skills she has learned.. Didn't they teach confidnce in the class?lori


myLot reputation of 99/100. blackbriar (6279)   ranked 4 out of 194 in dizzier than you  3 months ago

Yes they do but it depends on what level of self-confidence you have before you joined on how long it takes to develop it. She's working on self-respect and self-control still as well.

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4. myLot reputation of 93/100. slickcut (6007)   ranked 55 out of 194 in dizzier than you   3 months ago

She should have just cancelled her account & got off of facebook....Its a horrrible person that would continue to torment a person, but if you do not like the torment you can get off of facebook....You could change your e-mail address..There are a lot more options other than killing yourself, or being tormented to death by an evil person...


myLot reputation of 93/100. mike197601 (2867)   ranked 193 out of 194 in dizzier than you  3 months ago

It wasn't one person there were loads of them and it wasn't just Facebook either as it wasn't just online where she was getting bullied.


myLot reputation of 91/100. dumblnddzzy (10271)   ranked 1 out of 194 in dizzier than you  3 months ago

Thank you Mike for your input on this...I am sorry your friend has lost their daughter...lori

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5. myLot reputation of 98/100. astonysh (1824)   3 months ago

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myLot reputation of 91/100. dumblnddzzy (10271)   ranked 1 out of 194 in dizzier than you  3 months ago

Readthe link Mike hasprovided tere ismore to thisthan meets the eye..lori

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6. myLot reputation of 93/100. mike197601 (2867)   ranked 193 out of 194 in dizzier than you   3 months ago

She is actually the daughter of a friend of mine so I'm not saying much except that there is far more to the story than what was in the paper.
Haven't seen any national press stories as it has been on the front page of my local paper for the last couple of days and they used a really bad picture which made Holly look mental and upset everyone.


myLot reputation of 93/100. mike197601 (2867)   ranked 193 out of 194 in dizzier than you  3 months ago

http://www.thisisgloucest...


myLot reputation of 93/100. mike197601 (2867)   ranked 193 out of 194 in dizzier than you  3 months ago

Let me know if the link doesn't work as it is mainly for the comments at the bottom of the story rather than the actual story.
I'm quite shocked that she is on here for some reason...didn't think it was that big a story although it is causing lots of people in Cheltenham a lot of misery at the moment.
I think the Police went to the school the other day about the bullying stuff but time will tell.


myLot reputation of 91/100. dumblnddzzy (10271)   ranked 1 out of 194 in dizzier than you  3 months ago

OH Mike i am so very sorry for your loss.. She seemed like a very likabe young lady, such a tragic loss for everyone involved.. I read the story & the commns, thank you for adding the link, It worked just fine..I hope others will go & read from your link also..My heart goes out to her family..Rest In Peace Holly Grogan..lori


myLot reputation of 94/100. purplealabaster (830)   ranked 73 out of 194 in dizzier than you  3 months ago

Mike, I am so sorry for your loss. My heart goes out not only to the family of this girl but also to her, because nobody should ever have to feel like taking their own life is the only way out, especially not a teenager. She must have been in immense pain to have made this decision, and I'm sure that not only the pain of her death but the pain she felt in her life is weighing heavily on her family. If there is anything I can do or you need to talk, just PM me.

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7. myLot reputation of 75/100. elenyae (383)   3 months ago

Well, if she hadn't accepted them as "friends" on Facebook on the first place, they wouldn't have been able to post abusive comments on her wall. And even if she accepted them before it started, she could always have deleted them from her friendslist to stop them abusing her on her wall.


myLot reputation of 93/100. mike197601 (2867)   ranked 193 out of 194 in dizzier than you  3 months ago

She accepted them because they were all her friends for some time and as I said above it wasn't restricted to facebook.


myLot reputation of 91/100. dumblnddzzy (10271)   ranked 1 out of 194 in dizzier than you  3 months ago

elenyae you need to read the entire story, then make a comment about this...lori


myLot reputation of 85/100. Gorjess (1072)  3 months ago

Most people's friends on facebook are real offline friends, not people you can avoid by just deleting a profile.

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8. myLot reputation of 93/100. ANTIQUELADY (11354)   ranked 163 out of 194 in dizzier than you   3 months ago

How horrible. I would have to comfront the bullies & their parents. I have never been able to tolerate a bully. Thank heavens my sons were never bullied to that extreme.We had a few episodes because as long as time has been there have been bullies. i think it's passed down from their parents who are probably bullies themselves. It should have been nipped in the bud the first ugly message she got. Folks stand up & fight for your kids!!!!


myLot reputation of 91/100. dumblnddzzy (10271)   ranked 1 out of 194 in dizzier than you  3 months ago

I agree more aents need to be gtting & staying involve in their kids lives.. Especially if they are a bully, this needs to be stopped immediately...lori


snakebite325 (2)  3 months ago

that person in all honesty is idiot. if your going to get all worked up over some body sending you a mean message on the internet thats pathetic.i have been bullyied in real life and i can understand it to a extentent but as far as cber bulling sending messages thats pathetic to kill yourself for if people are pissing you off then geez don't read the message its that simple



for everyone that complains about cyber bulling....grow a pair


myLot reputation of 93/100. ANTIQUELADY (11354)   ranked 163 out of 194 in dizzier than you  3 months ago

u SOUND LIKE A BULLY YOURSELF. dON'T HOLD YOUR BREATH ABOUT MAKING FRIENDS ON MYLOT, wITH YOUR ATTITUSE DOUBT U MAKE MANY. sNAKEBITE, HUH? THINK U HAVE ALREADY BEEN BITTEN. thumbdown


myLot reputation of 93/100. mike197601 (2867)   ranked 193 out of 194 in dizzier than you  3 months ago

@snakebite
you are a dumb sh1t and if you were here I'd be dropping you off the top of a high buildingthumbup


myLot reputation of 93/100. ANTIQUELADY (11354)   ranked 163 out of 194 in dizzier than you  3 months ago

Way to tell him, mike.

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9. myLot reputation of 97/100. p1kef1sh (5688)   3 months ago

Tragically bullying has always been with us and I suspect always will be. Wherever there are people there will be bullying. We even see it on here in the shape of our "Trolls" - and they aren't children so don't have that as a (poor) excuse. For me, if anything like that happened on my Facebook account, or I saw it on my child's I would quickly be deleting and reporting the culprit. To the police if necessary. This is an awful story that happened not that far from where I live. It just makes you wonder what sort of people are out there.


myLot reputation of 91/100. dumblnddzzy (10271)   ranked 1 out of 194 in dizzier than you  3 months ago

Well here is the 'gang' mentality at work again.. by themselves te bulliesare useless, so the hav eto band together to do their bullying, they are so very much a coward..lori

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10. myLot reputation of 99/100. voldrox (1512)   3 months ago

This is one of the worst cases of death i have seen, cyber bullying, frankly it is the first time i am hearing this term... it's such a tragic thing to happen to someone, how sad, i feel so sorry for hercry, i bet she was a nice person... it has always got to be the nice sensitive people who get abused by others just for the sake of having fun irritating and bullying over people, how sad... i have real anger on people who do such things... i have always hated bullys, i have always been the quiet one when i was in school and i have seen how they can bully, bullying in a group is the worst case... i was a silent one but i wasn't afraid of the bullies, i just hated them so much.. but i can understand her case, she kept it all to herself and maybe she didn't have some real close friends to help her control her feelings, she probably didn't tell anyone coz she must have felt really bad about it... it is really hard to keep such feelings inside oneself and that is why she took such an extreme decision.. people must be considerate enough to understand what is going on inside the person, some people can handle such situations and some can't, it shows how mean can people be ... it's so ridiculous, shame on such people!angry


myLot reputation of 91/100. dumblnddzzy (10271)   ranked 1 out of 194 in dizzier than you  3 months ago

you are correct in aying they need to do bullying as a group, cause by themselvs they are nothing..very sad..lori

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