Communist Flag atThe White House

@ParaTed2k (22940)
Sheboygan, Wisconsin
September 24, 2009 4:23pm CST
In one of the ultimate examples of how Obamabots don't care what Obama does, I'm reading where they don't see where Obama flying the Communist China flag at the White House. If flags and such gestures don't matter, how would you react if a president flew the Confederate flag at the White House?
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• United States
25 Sep 09
Ted, corporate America loves communist China, and so do many Americans. If we didn't like them so much, we wouldn't by their cheap crap. I agree it should upset all Americans, but as I have been told by many republicans: "China is the good communist". I just wish that someone can explain to me the difference between the "good" communist, and the normal communist. If you find the answer to this question, please pass it on to me.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
25 Sep 09
Well, it turns out that not even Prs. Obama was willing to break protocol by flying the ChiCom flag over the South Lawn to commemorate the 60th Anniversary of that dark and murderous day when the Communists took over China. The flag raising in question was to happen on the Elipse (near, but not on the White House grounds). The point of this post has more to do with all the Obama supporters who defended something that not even Obama was willing to do (probably never even thought about doing). They don't seem to care what Obama does, as long as its HIM doing it. You do bring up a great point though. I don't know of any "good" governmental communism either. Fanatacism is far from a leftwing trait. No elected official deserves or should expect unquestioning devotion. We should always be ready to stand up to, or stand with our elected officials, not based on their name or their party, but on their decisions as EMPLOYEES of We the People.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
25 Sep 09
Friendly relations between nations is as strange as friendships between people. I look around at some of my friends and wonder why we are friends in the first place. While there are reasons, it isn't because we are all alike or even have the same morals or scruples.
@wmraul (2552)
• Bucharest, Romania
25 Sep 09
"Good" communists are those who fulfill both or at least one of the following: - have a great big undoubtfull economical power and political influence - are against russians For example my country in communism time had not economical power but ceauchescu, commie leader, was "listen" by arabians midddle east rebel leaders (Gaddafi, Saddam and others), mean had influence; Romania, my country, was somehow against russians commie, while we were only Varsaw treaty country without russian tanks inside (also Yougoslavia was against russians, despite the commie system, yet they were a special situation because of Tito .. and they were not in the treaty). As result, Romania was only commie country in middle-eastern Europe who wad the "the most favourite nation stipulation" or how that had named in english .. we had it up to 1988; one year after communism was "removed" from us .. China fulfill both requirement above and close relations between China and USA are not something new ..
@wmraul (2552)
• Bucharest, Romania
24 Sep 09
I am asking you because I realy haven't pay attention till now .. When british prime minister or french president or similar high level peronality from a non-comunist country have visited USA, do they put them flag at white house ?
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
25 Sep 09
Wmraul.. It is protocol to fly the national flag when any head of state makes an official visit to the White House... ChiCom head of state included. This would have been the first time a flag ever flew on the South Lawn in recognition of a foreign holiday. Therefore, if it was in recongition of an official visit from Ma Ying-jeou, that would have been completely appropriate (and not the first time). It turns out that the flag raising in recognition of the 60th anniversary of the communist takeover in China was to happen at the Elipse (near the White House, but not on the grounds). With all the hits about the supposed South Lawn flag, I haven't been able to find out if the Elipse flag raising actually happened or not. What this post was about is how many Obama supporters were willing to defend Obama for what they thought was his plan to break protocol to celebrate a communist event. I guess they don't give a crap what he does, they will support him... even if it is something he apparently wouldn't do.
@Latrivia (2878)
• United States
24 Sep 09
Yes, that's exactly what they do. In fact, the Chinese flag was flown on the White House lawn back in 2006 when Hu Jintao visited Bush. I don't recall it being a big deal then. As a matter of fact I was just viewing a picture of President Bush and Hu Jintao shaking hands in front of the white house with the Chinese flag waving directly behind them. So, even if Obama did fly the flag on the White House lawn (he isn't), it wouldn't be a big deal. It's a diplomatic sign.
@wmraul (2552)
• Bucharest, Romania
24 Sep 09
Well, however, it is not a singular case ... http://www.worldofstock.com/slides/PFA1229.jpg above is R. Reagan and M. Gorbatchev at white house ... and USSR (comunist) is there ... How lame can be one to think can fool people with "I see only what is fit to support my views, anything else not exist" style ? I don't want to go to deep into, but I recall about another US president, democrat also, who ... well, I just hope Obama will not go to Dallas durring his mandate .. http://www.nytimes.com/1987/12/16/us/washington-talk-state-departament-finders-and-fliers-of-foreign-flags.html
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@Latrivia (2878)
• United States
24 Sep 09
They aren't flying a Chinese flag at the White House. The flag is going across the street to the Ellipse. Source: www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/04/white-house-debunks-reports-fly-chinas-flag-south-lawn/ Besides, it's not unheard of to fly foreign flags on the White House grounds. They do it when a country's leader comes to this country for a visit. This isn't anything to flip out over.
@Latrivia (2878)
• United States
24 Sep 09
The link is broken, try this one: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/04/white-house-debunks-reports-fly-chinas-flag-south-lawn/
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
25 Sep 09
Exactly, and congrats for being up on current events enough to know the facts! This post was more about the Obama supporters who defended the idea of the ChiCom flag flying over the South Lawn in recognition of purel communist holiday. They don't seem to care what Obama does... they'll defend him anyway... even if it's something that Obama apparently wouldn't do. I do question the celebration of that dark and murderous day in China 60 years ago, but that's a different topic all together.
• United States
24 Sep 09
Hey Ted. I am taking it that the China's flag was flying at the white house. Wow. That is a shocker. China basically stands for everything we stand against. Maybe it was part of the deal when they agreed to lend us all that money. LOL. Not that it would make it right....but is it common to fly the flag of a visiting country at the white house as a sign of respect or something? Is this some kind of protocal I don't know about? I have to admit I always just assumed the American flag would always be flying at the white house so I have not paid a lot of attention to it. I would think if we were having foreign visitors to the white house that we might fly their flag, but ours too. Of course ours higher than theirs. I will have to look into this.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
25 Sep 09
The Chicom flag thing turned out to be erroneously reported by the Chinese press. It turns out that the raising of the Chicom flag was on the "Elipse", near the White House, but not part of the White House grounds. My post had more to do with how the Obama supporters defended the idea of flying the Chicom flag on the White House grounds. Even though even Obama would't break protocol like that, too many (but not all) of his supporters didn't care at all. Protocol allows the flying of a national flag on the South Lawn when foreign heads of state are makign official visits. I still question why a US president is marking the 60th anniversary of the dark and murderous day of Communist takeover of China, but that is a topic for a different day.
• United States
24 Sep 09
Are you saying the Communist Chinese flag is flying at the White house or are you taking what If it was flying at the WHite house
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
25 Sep 09
The Chicom flag thing turned out to be erroneously reported by the Chinese press. It turns out that the raising of the Chicom flag was on the "Elipse", near the White House, but not part of the White House grounds. My post had more to do with how the Obama supporters defended the idea of flying the Chicom flag on the White House grounds. Even though even Obama would't break protocol like that, too many (but not all) of his supporters didn't care at all. Protocol allows the flying of a national flag on the South Lawn when foreign heads of state are makign official visits. I still question why a US president is marking the 60th anniversary of the dark and murderous day of Communist takeover of China, but that is a topic for a different day.
@jb78000 (15139)
25 Sep 09
old story teddy. it is common practice to fly the flags of visiting wotsits in your country, in fact i think you'll find that good old dubya flew the chinese flag too.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
25 Sep 09
Yup it is, but that wasn't how Obama supporters defended it when they thought he was violating protocol. They defended the violation itself.
• United States
25 Sep 09
In Dubya's defense, he thought the flag was an American throwback. You know, back when America had the original 5 colonies.
@jb78000 (15139)
25 Sep 09
hello fishy. dubya thought something. you quite sure? can we change this into a completely different discussion about former us presidents?