Artificial intelligence in the bathroom  |
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I'm sure everyone's seen all those shampoos, conditioners and moisturisers which promise miracles because they contain 5-oxytwaddlecellulogibberish, or some other chemical sounding psycho babbly ingredient. We all know it's marketing nonsense, I mean, how many times can you redesign soap?
Well, those space cadets in their perfumed labs have finally lost what little plot they ever had. Now they've created, wait for it, "Intelligent Skincare" products. Like Dermed's 'Renewing Mask'(formerly Antioxidant Moisture Mask), which is, and I quote: "An intensive hydrating treatment with intelligent Spin Trap molecules which act like little magnets to attract and stop free radical reactions that damage healthy cells."
Intelligent Spin Trap molecules??????
So what's in this stuff? Three of the top five ingredients are: water; glycerin; and stearic acid. What's stearic acid? It's what they make soap from (to harden it). The rest of the ingredients are long chemical names and various smellies. Essentially, what you're getting for your $80 is 2oz of soapy, perfumed gloop. But it's intelligent gloop.
About a month ago I was looking for shaving oil in Tescos but they didn't have any so I grabbed the cheapest can of shaving foam there was. I don't normally use this messy yucky stuff but that's all they had. When I got home I noticed that on the cannister it said "SI. SKINCARE INTELLIGENCE FOR MEN" and around the bottom it said "Intelligent razor glide for a close, comfortable shave"
Does that mean there's an 'intelligence' making that razor glide comfortably over my face? When I think of Hal in 'Space Odyssey', that's not a particularly comforting thought.
So now I have an artificial intelligence in my bathroom. And some nights, when the lights go out, I wonder - to paraphrase Tom Waits - what is it thinking in there? Does anyone know?
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EnemyofEmpire (143) | 3 months ago | That was quick off the mark Thea
I'd like to know what mine's thinking of though. Is it composing metaphysical poetry about the view from the bathroom window? Or is it plotting revolution with the toothpaste and the dental floss? I want to be sure of what I'm dealing with when I pick that razor up in the morning.
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dawnald (10262) | 3 months ago | It's plotting how to get more of your money to its masters...
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EnemyofEmpire (143) | 3 months ago | But who are it's masters?
ps has that wittle wabbit showed up yet?
I'll have to check back later. The TV actually has something worth watching in 5 mins, movie double bill - Mystic River followed by Fahreheit 451. Nothin for months on end and now, 4 1/2 hrs of quality viewing.
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dawnald (10262) | 3 months ago | have not seen Mystic River...
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nyhollyjean (349) | 3 months ago | Mystic River is good, but a bit disturbing. It's one that stays with you for awhile after you've seen it, or at least it did for me.
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thea09 (4810) | 3 months ago | Just testing if we can reply to old discussions.
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Hatley (21756) | 3 months ago | hi thea I want to know when can we reply to new ones.
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thea09 (4810) | 3 months ago | Hi hatley I've pm's you.
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EnemyofEmpire (143) | 3 months ago | Dawn -
You must watch Mystic River, Clint's directing was good, but the movie's dominated by the performances of Penn and Robbins who was outstanding. As Holly says, disturbing, especially at the end. Dark but tragically beautiful.
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dawnald (10262) | 3 months ago | I went to add it to my NetFlix queue and found it already there, but I've moved it up!
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dawnald (10262) | 3 months ago | I rent movies from NetFlix. I go online, select movies, order them in my queue, and when I return the latest one, they send me the next one.
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2. dawnald (10262) | 3 months ago | I don't know about you, but before I started used that stuff, my IQ was 87 and now it's 138. Nope, actually I have invested in some organic skin products once or twice, but I haven't paid much mind to any of the latest, greatest fancy stuff they they sell to crazy middle aged and almost middle aged women who want to be 20 again. Parts of me wouldn't mind being 20 again, but I don't believe that buying a bunch of this stuff is going to make it so.
PS shhhhhhhh don't tell all those folks who love body wash, but most days I just use soap...
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nyhollyjean (349) | 3 months ago | Very funny IQ comment! lol And I'd like to know which parts of you want to be 20 again, and which parts don't? Sacrilege coming from a native of LA--they may not allow you back to the land of youth worship!!
Want to know what I wash with? Tresemme' hair conditioner--because it's cheap! I don't use soap, but skin, hair, toenails and fingernails are all made of the same stuff--therefore, the products can be interchangeable.
I scrub my head with the conditioner and leave it on until I'm ready to get out of the shower. Then I wash the rest of me with it, as it's gentler than soap and leaves my skin conditioned just like my hair. It's also easier to shave with, as it unintelligently makes the razor glide better and doesn't dry out my skin. Then I just do a final rinse--and that's it. I"m clean, soft and smell good--what more could I want?:-)
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nyhollyjean (349) | 3 months ago | Eh, give it a try--I bet it would work with any conditioner really.
As or the rest of your comment--that is the human dilemma isn't it? You know that phrase, if I knew then what I know now--(and still have the young body too)--I'd have the world by the tail, or something along those lines.
We weren't meant to live like Benjamin Button.:-)
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dawnald (10262) | 3 months ago | there's some awful pun there using 'tail' but I'm going to let somebody else have it...
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nyhollyjean (349) | 3 months ago | lmao--want to run a bet on who bites first?
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dawnald (10262) | 3 months ago | Nope I will just wait and see...
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EnemyofEmpire (143) | 3 months ago | Was that from just one tub Dawn, or was it a long term investment?
I never buy any of these things, I use cheap shower gel for everything, no shampoos, no conditioners, only shower gel and it works fine; after all it's basically liquid soap. If I want a facial scrub then I throw a bit of sand in it, because that's all they do. I don't think I'd want to be 20 again and if I did then I don't think soap's going to get me there.
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nyhollyjean (349) | 3 months ago | Just a note, EoE, sugar or salt works just as well as sand, although salt will be a bit more drying.
I like to use natural stuff as much as possible, no additives and preservatives that way. Lemon or cucumber juice for a skin toner (can also be used for a hair rinse, as well as beer) Whipped egg whites for a facial mask. Oatmeal and water can also make a good skin scrub too. Plain old glycerin is a good skin conditioner, or almond oil. The cosmetic companies will never make a profit on me, but the grocery stores might!:-
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| 3. Gammmae105 (54) | 3 months ago | They have the wrong adjective but the right idea. Maybe the razor glides over your skin, and shaves it, and the design from which it was made was an intelligent design?
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EnemyofEmpire (143) | 3 months ago | There was nothing intelligent about the design, it's shaving foam, nothing else. Unless you call the gift of being able to fool gullible idiots into parting with their hard earned cash, intelligence. If so then we really are heading for extinction as a species.
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4. nyhollyjean (349) | 3 months ago | Intelligent Spin Trap?! I think the only intelligent spin trap going on is all the drivel the manufaturers (that typo is deliberate, btw) come up with to get people to buy that junk.
Come to think of it--isn't there a toilet called the "Intelligent Flush"? This is where we get to stand and watch all our hard-earned money go down the drain--it performs all by itself.
As for Intelligent razor glide--if that was really the case, shouldn't the razor just shave you automatically? You shouldn't even have to hold it. Does it also work in reverse--if you use other products, that's "dumbing down"?
What I want is an Intelligent House--let the whole damn thing run itself! When they come up with that--and yes, I know it's getting close--then I'll worry about Hal.
At night, when the lights go out--I don't think anything is plotting in there--it's just giggling.:-)
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EnemyofEmpire (143) | 3 months ago | You nailed the intelligent spin trap there Holly. I don't think most people see the irony though.
There are intelligent flush toilets out there with all kinds of gadgets built in from heated seats to programmed 'cyclone flush cycles' - yes I googled 'intelligent flush toilet', couldn't resist.
I'd still want to hold the razor, I'm not keen on sharp edged things being near me which have a mind of their own. If you want 'dumbing down' products then go ask your last president, I think he's got the market cornered on those.
I'm not saying they are plotting, but why are there tiny pieces of burnt toilet paper on the floor in the morning?
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nyhollyjean (349) | 3 months ago | Never been interested in anything GWB had to sayand I'm certainly not going to use any products he might endorse! lol
As for the burnt toilet paper on the floor--I think I'd look more closely--I think it's burnt paper money instead.:-)
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EnemyofEmpire (143) | 3 months ago | I did look closely, but I don't know any currencies with sketches of Che Guevara on them.
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nyhollyjean (349) | 3 months ago | Oh, but his image is on toilet paper?! LOL Why Che Guevara?--I know there has to be a reason you chose him. You have something against the leader of unionized migrant workers? Is it because I mentioned that I use groceries for my beauty products? (oo) It reminds me of a time when I was at the airport and was looking through the shops, killing time and there was a whole roll of toilet paper with Saddam Hussein's face on it, over and over. Somehow I managed to resist.:-D
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nyhollyjean (349) | 3 months ago | Yep, I got it later (much later!) lol All those entities in the bathroom have formed a revolution and are sketching images of their hero--Che Guevara, who has been quoted as saying something about the revolution of the toilets, or something to that effect. Don't know the exact quote, but very clever of you just the same.:-)
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dawnald (10262) | 3 months ago | Here little girl, I'll hold your hand. (evil grin)
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nyhollyjean (349) | 3 months ago | OMG, Debi!! Hilarious--I laughed thru this whole thing! LOL
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dawnald (10262) | 3 months ago | Hey, it was just a day trip. No shower. Just some not too smart soap to wash my hand. but Holly had better watch out! Now that Aunt Terri is moving back to New York DAWN might pay a visit!
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nyhollyjean (349) | 3 months ago | Sorry, if I scared you peeless, Deb! LOL
As for D A W N--if you look below, she is offering to come after me, on the pretense of visiting an aunt! She doesn't say what she's going to do if she gets here. Part of me would be thrilled to have her here, and part of me is a bit nervous!
However--to be INTELLIGENT about it--as soon as I see her, I'm immediately going to throw a bucket of cold water on her!! That's the only sure way to get rid of D A W N's cleaning bubbles you know. Then after she gets dried off and warmed back up with a spot of Earl Grey--she should be back to being just good old DAWN again, I hope! (nibbling on fingernails, nervously)
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dawnald (10262) | 3 months ago | Yikes if anybody is going to be throwing water over me in upstate NY, guess I had better not show up there in January!!!
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dawnald (10262) | 3 months ago | hot showers are always good!!!
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EnemyofEmpire (143) | 3 months ago | Beware, be very aware. Just look at what that smart-alecky mouthwash did to Dawn.
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nyhollyjean (349) | 3 months ago | Oh--like Dawn's really going to come out here in January!! She thinks it's cold when the weather falls below 90F! No danger of her turning into a popsicle--she might actually enjoy the cold water when she does get here--she doesn't know what the humidity is like here in the summer! (evil little laugh)hee hee hee
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nyhollyjean (349) | 3 months ago | Hmm, maybe we should throw cold mouthwash on her instead?! Oy, can you imagine how "mouthy" she'd be then? Here little Dawnie--come closer, little girl (said in sickeningly sweet voice)
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dawnald (10262) | 3 months ago | um ok but only if I can have a brownie...
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nyhollyjean (349) | 3 months ago | Sure, Cutie--have a sickeningly sweet brownie--in fact have two! xo
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6. Zenstrive (204) | 3 months ago | in jargon world, intelligence= being made to react to something fast. So....your soap is basically a mixture of very long molecules that can do stuff. Simple soaps are already smart (in jargon world standard): they can differentiate between water and fats and stick to those accordingly.
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EnemyofEmpire (143) | 3 months ago | I think soap's smart enough already. All it has to do is remove dirt, which it does quite well by being lipophilic. It doesn't have to operate a particle accelerator so why does it need spin trap molecules?
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7. ayenacsi (719) | 3 months ago | It's just the basic stuff with exaggerated features and intelligent sounding words to trick consumers to buying their "higly intelligent" stuff. They always come up with products that they claim to be better or the best there is, to create the reason for the higher price but it still is the same product with the same outcome, sometimes they don't even deliver what they promise.
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EnemyofEmpire (143) | 3 months ago | Yep, just like everything else, 1% product capability, 99% marketing babble to justify high profits.
And no, they don't always do what it says on the packet. A recent test of anti-wrinkle products proved that none of them worked for more than about an hour or so before the wrinkles returned; one of them even added an extra wrinkle!
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EnemyofEmpire (143) | 3 months ago | If people actually read the labels on personal care products and then checked out the chemicals for themselves they'd be horrified. As most of these are lipophilic, which means that they attach themselves to fatty tissues in the body, they build up over time, without, in most cases, ever being metabolised - just like almost all pesticides do. Scary huh? And all for profit at the expense of people's health. Isn't unregulated capitalism fantastic?
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9. Tom728 (171) | 3 months ago | I think the Intelligent adjective refers to the products they are not talking about. Like saying it's stupid to use anything else. Antioxidants are awesome things that heal people. I think cold water after a shower is just as good as skin car products.
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EnemyofEmpire (143) | 3 months ago | I think the Intelligent adjective refers to the products they are not talking about. Like saying it's stupid to use anything else
A very good way of looking at it, but the people who buy these things can't see that.
Antioxidants have their place in certain metabolic processes, but I want to clean myself with soap not eat it.
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10. Hatley (21756) | 3 months ago | ah ha no one knows unless they tiptoe in the dark and watch.he he seriously I was amazed that one of the ingredients in a skin lotion to make your skin soft and moistureized is sodium hydroxide, come again,hey that stuff is also called lye, and I am putting that on my skin.oh no not me, I went to the store and read labels and nine out of eleven also contained sodium hydroxide and why would I deliberately put lye on my skin? There is probably not enough in there to hurt you but what is it doing in a skin lotion? So I am not up for intelligent spin trap molecules yet either. grrr. so I paid for some other lotion that was half as much cost and did not contain lye or spin molecules either. wow.
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debrakcarey (1351) | 3 months ago | Did you know some lotions have UREA in them? eeeewwww! Apparently, it softens the skin by disolving the top layer of dead skins cells so you can rub them off and get to the soft layer underneath. BTW....all soap is made from lye for that reason. Lye with buffering agents added.
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EnemyofEmpire (143) | 3 months ago | Don't worry about the lye Hatley. Sodium hydroxide (NaOH) AKA lye AKA caustic soda is just a powerful base used in the saponification of fats and oils which is how they make all soaps. There will invariably be some trace of NaOH left over from the initial reaction but it will be meausured in ppm (parts per million). If NaOH is not used as the base then it will almost certainly be KOH (potassium hydroxide) which is used instead, but is not as powerful a base as NaOH.
I think they're aware of my suspicions about them now so I've arranged for the neighbours across the street to set up an infra-red CCTV camera pointed at my bathroom window. I believe they think i'm nuts, but they're not the ones who have to pick up the razor in the morning. Can't be too careful I think.
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nyhollyjean (349) | 3 months ago | A CCTV camera pointed at your bathroom, ay? Wonder how much I'd have to pay the neighbors to put that on Youtube!?:-)
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EnemyofEmpire (143) | 3 months ago | You're too late Holly, Spielberg's already snapped up the rights for the first movie and one sequel
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nyhollyjean (349) | 3 months ago | Drat! Foiled again! And so, what do you suppose the first movie will be called? The Intelligent Spin Trap, I suppose? A film about Intelligent, chemically enhanced substances such as shaving foam, hand lotions and body washes, transforming themselves into Intelligent monsters, ready to take over the subterranean bathroom world. And the name of the sequel? Maybe E.T.--Extra Toiletstrials?
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debrakcarey (1351) | 3 months ago | So...a movie of your bathroom activities will be an action/thriller? Cool, let me know when it comes out..computer generated characters, I hope?
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