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As many of you know I have a disabled daughter,she has epilepsy,cerebral palsy,developmental delay and only one working kidney. You that have read my discussions also know she has been having lots of seizures. Well just Friday night she had one and her lips turned blue and I had to give her CPR til the EMS came. We took her to the ER and after 3 hours they said Neuro said to up the meds and sent us home. Then just tonight I had another huge scare. Around 7 pm I had went to use the bathroom and when I returned I found my daughter standing in the living room having a seizure. Drool was coming out of hr mouth and her mouth was slightly agape. I panicked placed her on the couch and grabbed her clonopin to stop the seizure. It only lasted one minute but it sent me into yet another panic attack. This makes seizure number 4 in 3 weeks time. I have had this feeling inside me for quite some time as to why her seizures are happening. And I know I could be in denial or just crazy but hear me out. My daughter was born not breathing,the revived her and she began to have seizures. They put her on Phenobarbital for 5 months of her life. Since no further seizure activity could be found either physically or on the EEG the removed her from the meds. One month after we moved in to this trailer(at the age of 3 almost 4) she began to have seizures again. Since then they are getting more frequent and worse at times. She is on 3 different anti seizure medication and none seem to be doing a dang thing. During the months when I have to shut up the house and run the Central Air or the Heat she seems to have more of them. All of them have been towards the front of the trailer never in the back part. She has had 3 total seizures in a car. Once on school bus on way home and 2 after leaving our house. Now like I said I have had this nagging feeling and I think it is this trailer. I think something in this trailer is causing her seizures and the recurrence of them to begin with. Now I know many will say well at the age of 4 seizures are common to start up again,or like the doctor told me tonight"well because we are increasing her dosage this could cause more seizures",or whatever else people have said and you know what I WON'T ACCEPT THAT! I could be in denial as I said or even crazy but something just doesn't add up. Am I crazy? I wanted to buy this mold testing kit I found online but it cost almost $16 and I don't have it. But what if I am wrong? What if I am right? Anyone have any advice?
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1. Hatley (20784) | 2 months ago | hi babyangie who knows, you may have found a cause or at least' a contributing factor with mold or whatever in your trailor,can you get another opinion from a different doctor? I don't think you are crazy at all,you are an extremely worried mom, and that is just natural.and what is that about the increase dosage causing more seizures,why I thought that was given to control the seizures? you are right, something just does not add up. If you possibly can I would seek medical advice from a second doctor, as this somehow does not make sense?
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babyangie27 (1204) | 2 months ago | She goes to U Of M here which is supposed to be the BEST hospital in Michigan,they have all of her history and her one insurance only pays for them and no one else. But I am thinking of making some calls if I can find any since really my mind is a mess as of late. I agree the meds are suppose to control not cause and this trailer sat here for 3 years before we ever bought it. And the first day we were here there was major water leakage from under the trailer due to the park not even hooking up the pipes and fixing the busted ones.
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zoey7879 (1254) | 2 months ago | I'd get an opinion from three or four different doctors. Personal experience tells me that when most doctors in Michigan have little or no experience with a particular ailment, instead of trying to get to the root of it, they'll just send ya home with a boot in your arse.
I'll tell you a little story about formaldehyde. One of the main components in it, is a chemical that many many people have a variety of allergies/chemical reactions to. Methyl. Methane by-prods are just bad bad news. All that talk about kids getting this and that from eating red dye? Same main ingredient. I cannot tell you how many every day items (and some that you wouldnt even imagine) contain methyl products. As for mold... mOLD really speaks for itself.
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2. Irishfrndly65 (7364) | 2 months ago | I say you are the mom and go with your gut! Go with your gut!! Mom's have this instinct and I believe in it. Also is there some place you can take her for a while to see if they stop? I know..that may be out of the question. Is your mobile leaking? I did the test and found several molds, one was one that can cause death in folks with compromised immune systems. My husband has finally fixed those leaks and replaced the ceiling.
What if you are wrong...so what? It's your baby!! Go for what you feel.
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babyangie27 (1204) | 2 months ago | Thanks Irish and no we really have no where to go. Heck I still owe almost $13 thou on this place and I am trying to find any way I can to get out. I donno something just doesn't feel right. I had a friend of a friend who lived here for 2 months not this trailer but this park itself her son had 2 seizures without explanation and after they moved eh has never had another issue.
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Irishfrndly65 (7364) | 2 months ago | Hhmmm, sugar....well...there ya go. I don't believe in cowinkydinks....just sayin...........
I'd start some online searching to see what environmental situations can cause seizures. Yip..I would and I wouldn't pooh-pooh you AT all. Mom's know. If more Dr's would recognize that, they'd have a better following...........
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babyangie27 (1204) | 2 months ago | I feel like the doctors are just brushing me off. Since has always went to this hospital and heck i even think they are the reason for her C.P. but I would think they would go above and beyond to help her maybe I am wrong about that part.
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mommyboo (3335) | 2 months ago | How frustrating!!! I too second going with your gut. I'm a mom too and I'd rather do what*I* feel I need to do even if I'm wrong. Of course I expect other people to PROVE me wrong in more than one way with actual factual reasonable evidence before I believe them. There's no just saying 'you're wrong' because I'll laugh in your face.
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3. Jennlk84 (2271) | 2 months ago | I don't think you're crazy. Now I don't know a lot about this, but I say go with your gut instinct. Maybe take some of your online earnings and purchase the kit? Or keep searching and see if you can maybe find a better deal on one. Check www.amazon.com .
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babyangie27 (1204) | 2 months ago | My next payment is for $10 so I will have to find a way to come up with the rest which right now is pretty hard since my husband tools also got stolen so his work has been slow due to it. I always try to go with my gut but her seizures have made my mind go wacko.
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4. Shar19 (2774) | 2 months ago | I don't think you're crazy. I would do the same thing you are - trying to find out what the h*ll is causing all those seizures. If she is given medication to control them then why is she still having them? I think she needs a different doctor's opinion because maybe the medicine she was put on is making everything worse. Also go with your gut feeling. There could be some kind of mold issue or something else contributing to this. I also would wonder if you think it's the trailer why is she having seizures in the car too? In any case, keep searching and testing different ideas, you'll get your answer. Just don't give up.
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babyangie27 (1204) | 2 months ago | That's what makes me second guess myself,since she has had seizures outside of the home in our car and on the school bus. I am not sure if my paranoia and anxiety is making me think stuff up or what.
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Shar19 (2774) | 2 months ago | Sometimes we can over think things when we have a lot of anxiety. Believe me, I've had my share of over thinking too. I still think you should test every possibility though. You just may be on to something.
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| 5. XperImenT (71) | 2 months ago | well you can be partly right. often times seizures have an initiating stimulus. something that promotes the start of seizures...so heck i don't see a reason why you can't probe around the house to see what could be a contributing factor to the seizures..
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babyangie27 (1204) | 2 months ago | I cut a hole in her first original room,I had since moved her to the smaller one thinking maybe the bigness of the other room was causing them. But what I could see in the small hole was nothing at all.
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| XperImenT (71) | 2 months ago | well i just went probing in my medical books from my previous terms and this is what i found: as i mentioned already there are factors that do increase the rate of seizures in epilepsy...some of the associated factors are: stress, late night and lack of sleep, flickering light, loud noises, alcohol, hormonal imbalances, and infections/fever....im sure there are more..but that's all i have learned=]
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babyangie27 (1204) | 2 months ago | So far I make sure she gets the right amount of sleep,she is in a growth spurt so that could explain it. No infections or anything like that. But I am glad you have a book to look threw.
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6. lynnemg (3585) | 2 months ago | You are not crazy at all, you may be on to something. If she is having more frequent seizures in one specific area of the house, there may be something in that area triggering them. Aside from molds, what kinds of sounds and sights are in that particular area? Is there a lot os electronical equipment in that area? I would look into those things before checking into molds. Think pf common denominators in each of her seizures, even if it means writing things down. Take mental note of what is in the room, etc. From there, then look into molds and such. I would do research on them as much as you can to determine the best way to detect them if they are present. One thing you should always remember is that you should trust your instincts. God has given us maternal instincts for a reason, to protect our children. If you have the feeling that there is something in your home causing the seizures to worsen, chances are you are right. It is now a matter of finding out what the cause is. I suggest looking into as much inforamtion you can find on things that may trigger seizures. If your doctor is not giving you answers that you feel comfortable with, talk to another doctor and keep talking to doctors until you find one that listens. I think that you instinctively know that there is more to this than meets the eye, it is just a matter of finding it. I am still keeping you and your family in my thoughts and prayers.
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babyangie27 (1204) | 2 months ago | Thank you for the prayers Lynn. She watches TV before bed and only the seizures outside of the home didn't have that common thing. But I always make sure the TV isn't showing anything flashing or anything like that. Plus during all her EEG she has never shown the strobe light or things like that to be a trigger. I have a daily log of all her activities and I read it after every seizure and I cna find nothing that links them. I am at my wits end.
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lynnemg (3585) | 2 months ago | Just a thought, but I wonder if there is something in her brain that IS triggered by the television, but as a delayed reaction. Just because she isn't looking at flashing lights on the television doesn't mean that something in her brain hasn't been triggered the way a strobe would effect others. There are many times when I watch television right before bed and when I close my eyes, there seems to be these flashes of light in my eyes. I can't explain it other than that, but I also know that my kids experience it too. This happens to us up to an hour after we go to bed and have turned the television off. I don't think that something like that could actually be detected in any test, but she may be able to tell you if it is happening. For that matter, she may be able to explain to you in some way what and how exactly she feels right before each seizure. This may be something you ahve already thought of yourself, but when I read your response, it immediately popped into my head and I had to write this.
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babyangie27 (1204) | 2 months ago | It could be but I wonder why now? After 3 years of no activity what so ever for them to start? And the night it started back up again she hadn't watched TV for several hours before the seizure happened. I will look into it though and see what I can find thanks.
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7. Thoroughrob (7894) | 2 months ago | No, you are not crazy. Check with your health department. They may help with the test. They do the lead, but I am not sure about mold. Keep a very detailed diary about what is happening and where. You may be wrong, but you will always wonder if you don't have it checked out. There may be nothing that does make sense, but if you think that is it, don't give up until you are convinced you were wrong. If you don't have a doctor that will listen look for another one. One that can either explain things better to you, or that is listening. We have been through many doctors. They treated my son more like a car than a person, and we have found ones that are for the family and the child.
Just to let you know, I haven't forgotten about calling you. Bryan was home all week with the flu. We were watching him very closely, hoping we did not end up having to take him back to the hospital for more surgery.
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babyangie27 (1204) | 2 months ago | I will be praying for Bryan and please keep me updated on him. I have tried searching the health department online and Michigan really has nothing about mold on there. No rule regulations and such. I do keep a detailed diary and have spent hours rereading and so far I have come up with no links what so ever.
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Thoroughrob (7894) | 2 months ago | Thanks so much, I will keep you updated. I just did a search and there is an article I want you to check out. Read the whole thing. Let me know what you think. It may be another way to look at.
http://www.ktvu.com/news/1849083/detail.html
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babyangie27 (1204) | 2 months ago | I read that last night and plan on looking at it again today. But somehting caught my eye about the article. It talked about mold growing spores or something in a person's nose. Since we have moved in here my daughter always has a really stuffy nose. During the winter I have to run a humidifier which has since broke and I have no funds to buy a new one. But it does make me wonder. I emailed a person with the EPA and I am praying that they will at least think about my theory and maybe help us. I need to track down an email for my local health department since I do better with emails then speaking on the phone,especially now with my anxiety at an all time HIGH.
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8. olydove (487) | 2 months ago | Hun as thoroughrob said check with the health department they should have a test kit there for molds. Where you were living at before you moved into the trailer were you at the same place for a long time? I ask because the stress of leaving on place to move into another can be a trigger factor in itself. If it always seems to happen in the front of the house I'm guessing there is more access to light in that area. Are there bright and shiny things? More electronic devices? If you can somehow find someone to come out with an EMF meter and measure the EMF's out there like they do on those ghost investigating shows that would be an excellent thing as well because high EMF levels have been known to cause various problems in people. You're not crazy at all, the doctors aren't listening and if it all seems to have started after moving into your trailer then definitely there is a reason for it. Is there any way that you guys can sell the house even if you have to move into an apartment?
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babyangie27 (1204) | 2 months ago | My mind is a mess olydove and I don't even know who to call or what to say. I am feeling like I am a complete idiot or somehting and afraid they might think that too. I feel like her doctors are just brushing me off about this whole thing. A friend of mine said she spoke with someone and they suggested maybe a breathing machine at night kind of like what someone with sleep apnea wears to see if that might help. I just don't know what to do anymore. I have to watch her every second. She is right next to me right now just so I can keep a close eye on her,I puled her from school today because I don't even know if she is safe there.
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olydove (487) | 2 months ago | I can understand keeping her home today, after all that was quite a scary experience. The fact that you had to give her CPR scares me too. It's a good thing you know what you're doing though,.. you're a good momma and don't you doubt that for a minute!
I don't know how much difference a breathing machine would make as it's the mold that's in the house and air other than it would give her filtered air to breath. In which case maybe we can somehow find you a good quality air filter to use.
Now when you say you don't know who to call or what to say, do you mean about selling the trailer or about finding someone to come out and check the EMF levels? Let me know what you need help with sweets you know I'm pretty good at researching so I will help as much as I can that way. In the mean time right now what you need to do is just try to relax. You can't think clearly when your anxiety is up high I know from experience so if there is anything that you have there at home that helps you relax like a good book, a movie, something you need to find it and put it to good use. Is hubby home? Can he help keep an eye on her while you rest a bit?
Listen you've got to take care of you too because if you don't you won't be around long enough to take care of her. If she is ok and breathing fine right now and isn't showing any signs of having a seizure then you can relax a bit.
We need to write down the steps of what it is you want to do. I'm guessing step 1 is get the house tested for mold so..we need to contact as many people as we can to find out how to get that done.
I just found some info for the health department gonna pm you now in yahoo
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babyangie27 (1204) | 2 months ago | Oly you are always a life saver and the best researcher I have ever seen. Sorry in the delay in responding but my anxiety is in high gear again today. I already spoke to you earlier are a few things and I plan to do a discussion shortly about it all.
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9. pyewacket (11593) | 2 months ago | Nope I certainly don't think your crazy babyangie...there was a big hub-bub about the mobile Fema trailers that were available for people after the Katrina disaster. They were government issued trailers too, but then every person that lived in them for awhile got horribly sick...it was later found out that there was contamination in those trailers. The thing is, these contaminated trailers are still showing up at certain areas of the country and for all you know you might be in one or maybe the manufacturer of your trailer is the same as the Fema ones, and they too might be contaminated...they had formaldehyde contamination which made people sick.
Here's an article about it just fairly recently--please read it. Maybe you should get some kind of health inspector to make tests?? I'm sure there MUST be some agency or organization who could test for free--perhaps contact the Environmental Protection Agency? They must have a local one near you
http://www.epa.gov/
Here's an interesting article about finding dioxin, a toxin in water in the Michigan area
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2009-10/uepa-eru100109.php
http://www.naco.org/CountyNewsTemplate.cfm?template=/ContentManagement/ContentDisplay.cfm&ContentID=30442
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babyangie27 (1204) | 2 months ago | I emailed the person who's email was visible with the second link you provided me. Maybe he can help me as long as he doesn't write me off as some crazy mom. My trailer is a 1996 so I am unsure what brands or companies made the trailers in question regarding the Fema article. But I will keep my eyes open and try searching online or if you do let me know. My mind is a mess and I am a mess it's like I can't focus even with my meds it is like I am trying to figure out the hardest puzzle in the world,and in way I guess I am.
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10. sid556 (10626) | 2 months ago | This must be so scary for you. Thankfully I have had no experience with seizures but I don't think you sound crazy at all. Mold can cause all sorts of problems. Of course it could be just coincidence that her seizures got worse after moving into the trailer but maybe not. I can see why you would want to at least check out the possibility. Is there anyway that your daughter could stay at a friend or family members home for a week or so and test your theory?
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babyangie27 (1204) | 2 months ago | If I had a car in which I could still transport her to school I may be able to stay with my sister. But since I can't do that and she has already missed so much school that is not an option. I don't know what else to do,but I started emailing people today since I do better with that then trying to call someone. I still have to track down an email to my county department though. I have to keep praying that someone out there will listen to me and not just pass me off as some nut.
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| webdesignsbyaw (82) | 2 months ago | That is really scary. I am so sorry to hear what happened. I too, have had to deal who kids have seizures and I know it can be a very fearful event. It may be the trailer your living in, and espeically the air conditiong. Maybe for your daughters sake, you should save money so you can move out Asap. That's what I would do.
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babyangie27 (1204) | 2 months ago | I am trying to find a way out of this place as we speak. But because our credit is ruined due to being behind on the mortgage to begin with options are running thin.
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