Rush Limbaugh - NFL Owner?  

It doesn't matter to ME either but it is "big news" so I thought I'd see what tohers here thought about it. The fact is, most of the NFL owners are conservative Republicans, or so I heard recently. It's probably a fair guess, though not a sure thing, that since about 70% of the players in the NFL are African-American most of the players are not Republicans. Gee, I guess that would mean splitting the players up might not work so well...lol! Anyway, it's really not a question of Limbaugh being conservative but of the racist remarks he's made through the years that have upset many of the players and even some of the owners.

I agree, politics is starting to bleed into everything. It's always been this way to some extent but it's a lot more visible now. There are many people involved in politics who give their opinion on things in other fields and people in other fields who speak out about politics so I guess you could say it's hard to tell the difference sometimes.

Annie

I think there are a lot of people who feel as you do. I know my son-in-law and his brother have been die-hard Rams fans since they were little kids and they've both sworn they'll pick a new team and get rid of all their Rams merchandise if Rush becomes an owner.

Annie

Thank you for giving me your clearly unbiased opinion! I sure can't disagree with you that money talks!

Annie

If MY whole point is "entirely and utterly ridiculous" at least I'm not alone by any means since I've been hearing about this issue on political shows for the past five or six days! Rush Limbaugh is synonymous with politics so it's impossible to separate anything he does from it. HE spent hours each day for years bashing "druggies" and then we find out he was one and tried to get the drugs illegally. It's announced he has put in a bid on an NFL team and some players voice their displeasure at the idea of playing for him because of his racist remarks through the years. I don't know if people will stop watching or buying tickets and merchandise.

"Some people still love their teams and you are sadly underestimating the loyalty of sports fans."
I'm not denying that and I sure can't speak for ALL sports fans; however, I CAN tell you that my 38 year old son-in-law, his 45 year old brother - both of whom have been Rams fans since birth - and their 60+ year old father have all vowed to stop rooting for the Rams if Limbaugh has any involvement with them.

Update: Chris Matthews just said that ESPN has reported that Limbaugh has been dropped from the group placing the bid.

Annie

I still think the whole issue is entirely ridiculous. The subject of his drug abuse was never brought up in the accusations, just some remarks. I am certain you can find some equally controversial remarks in the critics who spoke out against him. Although, it probably was a waste of money on his part to buy this team, since they are losing so badly. He should still get an equal chance to blow his money like everyone else. It shouldn't matter how he made his money nor should it matter how he spends it. All I can say is wow you are really prejudiced against the man.

It's not "prejudice" I have against him, sierras. Everyone has a right to their own opinion and I realize there are many people who really love Rush but I admittedly can't stand the man. It's NOT because he's rich or successful or because he's a conservative. It's because he's a JERK!! He'd said and done things I didn't like or agree with for years but what really put me totally against him was when he so cruelly mocked Michael J. Fox.

Anyway, it is business and the other bidders made a business decision to drop him from the bid. Nobody made them do it but there was a lot of protest against Limbaugh from owners, players and fans so I guess this is the market at work, right?

Annie

Actually, it was not the market forces that caused his being dropped from the team. I am really surprised that even if you don't like the guy that you still seem to be happy about the discrimination that is going on. That it is a sad state of affairs especially when you preach about everyone being equal.

I HAVE listened to him and I can assure you his words are NOT taken out of context. He's a racist, sexist hypocrite through and through.

Annie

Here are some examples; if you don't think he's a racist we have different views about what the word means: http://www.rushisaracist.com

He's out of the group of bidders now, probably in part due to a petition that got 25,000 signatures in 8 hours.

Annie

Annie, that site is filled with lies that have been repeated many times and now may lead to CNN, MSNBC, and the NY Times being sued. I really wish you could one day learn to check reputable sources instead of left wing hate sites.

Don't be absurd Ted. You know full well that opposing the messiah is a far worse crime than torturing animals.

rofl

I was very much against Michael Vick's return as well, for the record. The opposition to his buying a team has nothing to do with what he thinks about the president. I'd bet that the majority of the owners voted for McCain...either because they're wealthy, greedy businessmen or because they're dirty old men with the hots for Sarah...lol! (Now, don't get mad, I'm JOKING!)

Annie

LOL Annie!

I never edit!

"Any popular figure is damned if they do and damned if they don't in some circles, especially controversial ones"

A lot of times I "forget" to edit and then when my post appears here I'm amazed when I see I meant to type one thing and for some unknown reason my fingers typed another so don't sweat it!

Now, to the topic at hand...I can't disagree with a single thing you've written about the NFL owners or union. Rush couldn't make the Rams a better team and I doubt if anyone can make them worse...lol!

Annie

First of all, welcome to myLot! I hope you enjoy it here as much as I do.

Now, to the discussion topic - I guess it was an issue for the ones that really mattered since he's been dropped from the group making the bid. It well may be that some or most of the other owners share some of his views but if they share his racist views they keep it to themselves.

Annie

I have heard a lot of people accuse Mr. Limbaugh of being a racist but I have never heard anybody actually back up the claim by providing quotes from him that are racist. Has he ever espoused racism on his program? Has he made racist remarks? What has he said that would lead you or anyone to think he's a racist?

You'll typically see a list of bogus quotes that are floating on the internet and have recently been repeated by CNN and MSNBC. It appears that most are based on a book called "101 people who are really screwing America". The book is not sourced and has been proven to be filled with lies. It claims that he said slavery was good for the country, the medal of honor should be given to the guy who killed Martin Luther King Jr. and other garbage.

That's what I thought. He's being smeared for his political views. The left hate him so they perpetuate the mis-information and unsubstantiated accusations and label him a racist. If they state the lie often enough, people start to believe it. Well, now he may have a libel lawsuit since he's been dropped from the group that is trying to buy the team, he can definitely prove damages so anybody that is calling him a racist better be able to back it up with fact.

Taskr, be honest! There are enough of things Rush has said on audio and/or video tape that any of these things you claim aren't true don't even matter. I don't see how anyone can listen to some of the things he's said and not believe he's a racist. If he isn't, please tell me who is?

Annie

Our standards of racism have changed DRAMATICALLY.

Racism was an intolerance of someone due to the color of their skin. It was a blatant attempt to harm another race in some way for the sake of your own. It was an attitude that you were better than an entire race of people. It was standing in the way of a race's (not an IDEOLOGY'S) progress.

Now, I don't know Rush Limbaugh nearly well enough to say whether or not he's done any of these things. Has he?

All I do know for sure is that, these days, the criteria for "racism" is a bar that's INFINITELY lower.

(Note: All of these will be examples of a white person referring to/about minorities.)

If you criticize a minority, you're a racist. If you joke about race, you're a racist. If you dare to state that black-on-black crime and ghetto poverty is a result of failed policy and not a by-product of slavery and oppression, you're a racist. If you utter even a word about a minority that can be deemed detrimental--and it doesn't have to be about that person's race--to that race, you're a racist. If you're not 100% PC and overly sensitive to the fact that minorities past were oppressed, you're a racist. If you use a stereotype in passing when referring to a minority, you're a racist. If you're associated, even by six degrees, to anyone who's ever done any of these things, you're a racist.

(If you're a minority who does these things from the other side of the aisle, you're a house negro.)

Then it gets worse from there! You have all of those abovementioned rules, plus dozens more, PLUS an entirely new set, created by the likes of Sharpton and Dyson and Jackson and kept alive and thriving called "secret," "hidden," or "coded" racism.

This is when you mention minorities and someone, somewhere, detects what they believe to be a sarcastic or condescending or sinister tone. Code racism. This is when you say "socialism," or "single-payer," or ask "Where's the birth certificate?" Code racism. And this list also goes on and on and on and on and on.

We have an entire dictionary's worth of words and phrases that CANNOT be said by one race, yet thrown around freely by another. We cannot have security system commercials depicting a minority criminal. Racist. You cannot look away on a bus if a black man walks on who's dressed similarly to the latest rap video where shootouts were happening. "Do we ALL look alike? Are we ALL criminals?" If a black person is passing you, you must remain still. If you happen to fiddle with your purse, you're a racist trying to hide your purse from the minority! If you step aside, you're afraid! (See the 'are we all criminals')

It is TOTALLY ridiculous. The idea was to defeat our horrid past and accept minorities into a culture that was and still is predominantly white. Well, we have done that in spades! (Racism!!!!! OMG!!!!) Except you HAVE to treat minorities WHOLLY different than everyone else, or you run the risk of being called a racist by someone, somewhere, who has sh1t-all better to do than to call you a racist!!

It is BS, pure and simple! I suspect that Rush feels the same way and sticks it straight to the other side's "man" in a quasi-revenge-like fashion, and he revels the fallout. Well, maybe not now, but such is life.

Bill Maher would have never been denied, and I can cite where he's used "racism" (by these low standards) repeatedly.

It is still, as much as regular people don't want it to be, a political thing.

You said it Matersfish, but you forgot being a conservative. Obviously, if your a conservative, and especially a conservative talkshow host, you must be a racist.

lol

Nah, I didn't forget. It's always implied. That's the #1 defining factor of a racist if you ask anyone on the far-left: conservative.

It's like Bill Maher says: "I can't say all conservatives are racists, but all racists are conservatives."

How ridiculous. Like there's NO other racism that exists outside of a white conservative. No black people are racist? No Latinos? No liberals? No non-conservatives at all?

There's so much hypocrisy in their "racism" arguments. The word is just bogus in this day and age. And I honestly feel bad for REAL victims of REAL racism, because those situations are never really resolved. Too much time is spent trying to fight back and forth with ideology, calling THAT racism instead of intolerance due to someone's skin color.

Well Free agents come and go. Every team is used to seeing talented players leave. It's just part of the business. I've seen big players leave the Bills because they hated the coach (back when Wade Phillips was coach) and that didn't get him fired. Coaches are MUCH closer to the players than the owner so I think that him being part owner of a team really won't matter that much to the players or the franchise.

When star players go Free Agent, they don't hang in the wind for long...that's a fact. I guess we'll just have to wait and see how it plays out. As long as it's not the Redskins or the Dolphins, I don't really care all that much.

Thankfully or unfortunately, depending on how you look at it, the Rams don't have a star player. They're one of the very few teams in the league with mediocre--in comparison with 'star power'--talent from QB to special teams.

I don't know if this has anything to do with Rush. I just enjoy pointing out how much the Rams suck lol

I didn't know they were short on start players...and that they sucked.

I'm having enough trouble rooting for two NFL teams as it is so I don't have the time to follow the goings on of anyone other than the Dolphins and the Redskins. The Skins are my hometown team...the Dolphins I adopted when I moved to Florida.

Way to call it, Spall! You were right, the deal fell through.

Newsflash...HUGE surprise, Rush blames it on Obama and the Democrats...lol!

Annie