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myLot reputation of 97/100. ravinskye (7733)   ranked 1,258 out of 7,859 in dogs 3 years ago

We just got a lab puppy and i want to make sure he stays safe. We live on Main st in our town. It is a small town, but still dangerous to live in Main st if you have a pet. I was thinking about getting one of those underground electric fences for him, but I wasn't sure if it was worth the money. Do they work? Are there any negatives to have one? My friend told me it zaps them if they get close to the line, but once they are across it stops zapping them. So he braves the zap to get over the line then he'll get out on the street. Are they worth it?

 

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1. myLot reputation of 97/100. katsmeow1213 (7751)   3 years ago

I've never had one myself, but lots of people do. I'm not sure about the cost... but maybe you could see if it would be cheaper to get just a regular fence to keep the dog in your yard... that would benefit the kids as well.

I once visited someone with a dog shortly after they'd installed their electric fence, and they were working on training the dog to obey the fence. So it's not just as easy as getting the fence, I believe they said they had to walk the dog around the inside perimeter everyday so he'd learn his boundaries.


myLot reputation of 97/100. ravinskye (7733)   ranked 1,258 out of 7,859 in dogs  3 years ago

Yea, we've been weighing our options. The only reason I'm resisting the fence is the neighbors right beside us. They are in their 70's and have become like another set of grandparents for the kids. if we fence in the yard, i would like to do that side of the yard with just wire fence or something so they can still see the kids. they like to watch them playing outside in the summer time.


myLot reputation of 86/100. tdemex (2225)   ranked 1,320 out of 7,859 in dogs  3 years ago

They work that's why they invented them! But I think they are inhumane as I'm a dog lover! Why don't you put in a temporary Kennel for him or her? As the puppy grows he or she will learn and they are very territorial and you'll be able to leave him or her out and unattended! there's always a long rope or leash, that you can stake down and move around the yard! I'd check on all the other possibilities before using this method, but that's just me! wink tdemex


myLot reputation of 87/100. Ravenladyj (19028)   ranked 120 out of 7,859 in dogs  3 years ago

But I think they are inhumane as I'm a dog lover! Why don't you put in a temporary Kennel for him or her?

I'm a dog lover as well and i have to say that caging them or tying them up is inhumane...My dogs are free to run the yard all day if htey want without having to be watched or chained AND they stay safe because of the electric fence....I say that them having the ability to run and play is far more kind than having them chained up or locked in a wire box.


lefthooklacey (45)   ranked 5,517 out of 7,859 in dogs  3 years ago

I agree. I think that tying up a dog or putting him in a small cage is more inhumane that the shock collar. The collar gives him freedom to go where he wants and room to run around. Tying a dog up or making him stay in a kennel is terrible. It doesn't take the dog long to learn his boundary, so it's not like he's getting shocked every day. I know some people that can turn their system off because the dog was so well-trained with their boundary that they never tested it any more. My dog has been shocked twice that I know of, and he doesn't go near the boudnary wire anymore. I even shocked myself, and it's not that bad, just uncomformable.

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2. myLot reputation of 87/100. Ravenladyj (19028)   ranked 120 out of 7,859 in dogs   3 years ago

they are very worth it...and the dogs get a beepingn warning first then if they move closer to the fence line they will get zapped...Or at least thats how ours works...Your dog being a lab is in your benefit too since they are very trainable dogs...Mine are too due to them being Shepard (the male) and Lab (the female) but they are also very headstrong and stubborn (the Chow in them)..none the less though, the electric fence works very well..


myLot reputation of 97/100. ravinskye (7733)   ranked 1,258 out of 7,859 in dogs  3 years ago

Thanks! Have your dogs every made it past the fence though? My friend just about hit a dog that was in an electric fence. There were two of them and they were wrestling around and the one dog pushed other other over the line. He got zapped but then he was past the line so he was fine and running in the street. I just have the one dog, but still would like to be sure it would be worth it. How long did it take to train your dogs to stay in the fence? My puppy is only 7 weeks old, so I don't think he would understand yet.


myLot reputation of 87/100. Ravenladyj (19028)   ranked 120 out of 7,859 in dogs  3 years ago

my female dog has broken through the fence line but she is a smart dog..she'll walk along the first line (so her collar beeps) and run out her battery LOL then she's taken off (only three times though in the 5 yrs we've had them)...How long did it take to train them? not long really...maybe a couple of weeks give or take, I'd have to ask my hubby for a more accurate time frame...but we trained them a couple times a day every day too..One thing I like about the collar is the fact that you can adjust the intensity...My female dogs collar is set higher (stronger) than our males is becuas she is the bold one who will risk the zap to get into the woods if we dont have it set high enough.....

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3. lefthooklacey (45)   ranked 5,517 out of 7,859 in dogs   3 years ago

Hi Ravinskye,

I just finished installing an uderground fence. I can only speak for myself because I don't know how other people's fences have worked for them. Mine was about $200 and came with the 500' of wire that goes in the ground, the "correction" collar, and flags to put in the ground. The flags give the dog a visual reference during the training stage. It took me and my uncle about 2 hours to get everything installed and working.

As for the effectiveness, we've had it installed for about 2 weeks now, and our dog hasn't gotten out of the yard. As a matter of fact, he won't even go within' 20 feet of the boundary wire. It has 3 warning levels before it actually shocks the dog and you can adjust the distance of the warning area before it shocks. For example, you can set it on 10ft warning area. If the dog goes within 10 ft of the fence boundary, he will hear a warning tone, it increases as he gets closer, then if he crosses it shocks him. Our dog has only been shocked twice, and that is all he needed. You can adjust the level of the shock depending on your dogs size and coat thickness. I accidently shocked my self shen I was testing it, and it was on medium, I quickly realized that medium would be plenty of juice for my dog, because it got my attention quickly:)

So overall, I'm pleased with my fence. Just make sure you read the directions and watch the traning video that comes with it. Don't just install and throw your dog out there and expect him to learn on his own, spend time with him and praise and re-enforce after he comes back from hearing the tone. He will quickly learn his boundary.

As for negatives, the worse thing about these types of fences are the possibility of another dog or animal coming into your yard. Beacuse these animals are not wearing a shock collar, they can come and go into your yard at will, which can tease the dog into leaving the boundary to chase them or play with them. We have a lot of squirels where I live, and I was worried that our dog would chase them out of the yard. If a dog gets out of the yard, then it will shock him when he tries to return which is counter-productive.

The only other down side is that you have to monitor the collar batteries very closely, they go dead pretty quick at first(because the dog is constantly testing his boundaries), and if not changed, he could leave the yard without any correction.


myLot reputation of 97/100. ravinskye (7733)   ranked 1,258 out of 7,859 in dogs  3 years ago

Thanks for the great response! Our yard is pretty small, so I'm wondering if it would be worth it, or just easier to fence it in. It might be cheaper in the long run then replacing batteries all the time.

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4. myLot reputation of 76/100. menolly22 (161)   ranked 1,308 out of 7,859 in dogs   3 years ago

Thank you for posting this. We also have a lab puppy. Well, I guess he's a teenager now. He was dumped off in the country by someone and we took him in. So, were not totally sure on the age. Were guessing close to a year. We had thought about the underground fencing as well. But we also have an American Eskimo. I wonder if you have to buy 2 collars and how much more that would be? Would the zap be too much for the smaller Eskimo than it would be for the lab? I'm glad you posted this question. I will be following this to see what people say!


myLot reputation of 97/100. ravinskye (7733)   ranked 1,258 out of 7,859 in dogs  3 years ago

I think you have to buy a second collar, though I'm thinking that a few years ago when I had looked at them that some came with a second collar. I think the collar has the strength setting on it, so you could set each collar differently depending on the size of the dog.


myLot reputation of 76/100. menolly22 (161)   ranked 1,308 out of 7,859 in dogs  3 years ago

Thank you! I appreciate your response!

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5. myLot reputation of 99/100. fjaril (6097)   ranked 1,118 out of 7,859 in dogs   3 years ago

Thanks alot for posting this discussion. I have been curious also and have read all the responses and the advise and other information is very valuable! Great help to MEthumbup

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6. rebaozi (94)   3 years ago

I love pets ,I think it's worth to cost money on it.Small town still dangerous I can't understand,there got alot of cars as my place LA?LA is so dangerous about pets,And I wanna got my pet back to LA... OK.... if you wonder the fences work or not you'd better try,you know ,just do it...if you do that ,you will know the answer...

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7. myLot reputation of 99/100. walijo2008 (4169)   ranked 298 out of 7,859 in dogs   3 years ago

I always wondered how well they worked myself. My sister has a neighbor that has an underground electric fence and she said it doesn't work, somehow her dog figured out that if he runs fast enough across there he can get out, it may shock him for a second but I guess he figures its worth it..lol. So I'm not so sure they're worth it, you would probably be better off just building a fence around your yard so your pet will stay in and won't get run over or something.

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