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I have recently removed all photos of deities from my house.I am thinking of removing the photos of dead ancestors too,including my father`s large photos.I believe offering prayers to departed people does not allow them to transcend to the other world.What do you have to say .please forward your views.
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1. Ravenladyj (18010) | 3 months ago | No I dont but I dont see deities as being seperate from me..they are more a part of me than anything else....As for pics of loved ones lost..I could and would NEVER remove the pics of them...I see no reason to for starters and secondly I would feel a major void if I were to...they were important ppl in my life (friends, my boy, my ex) and some in the lives of my husbnad (our son) and kids (their father,gramma, brother etc) etc so its honouring them and remembering them IMO to have pics and whatnots around the house..
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sailor10 (772) | 3 months ago | I too believe that the deities reside in me.Ganesha at the Mooladhara,Brahma-Saraswathy at Swadhishtan,Laksmi-Vishnu at Nabhi,Dattatreya at the void adjacent to Nabhi Durga at Anahat,Shiva in the heart Krishna at Vishuddhi, Jesus- Mary at Agneya and Sahasraraswamini at Sahasrar.I am beginning to realize their presence and support and to enhance this overall support system I am dispensing with external images and idols.
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Ravenladyj (18010) | 3 months ago | to enhance this overall support system I am dispensing with external images and idols
see I would be the opposite..if I had images etc of any deities around my house it would be to enhance or strengthen those aspects within me..
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2. learn2earn (11073) | 3 months ago | I have no photos of deities in my house because the only one to be qualified to be a deity is Jesus Christ. But God doesn't allow us to make anything and worship it because it's not the God. We cannot make anything and worship such. A photo of your loved ones is just a remembrance of your loved one's who died. After death, the soul will either spend eternity in heaven or hell...
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sailor10 (772) | 3 months ago | hi You are welcome to your beliefs but to say only Jesus qualifies is only showing your bias,I dare say.God has not placed any restrictions,maybe your church has. Placing photos of the dead is OK but praying to them is not advisable.They are not Gods,I feel,just departed souls.
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3. asweetie (572) | 3 months ago | hi sailor, I am Hindu and we worship many Gods and nearly every home has pics of gods as we got so many festival on which we do offer prayers to different gods. So if it is Diwali we worship Godess Laxmi and god Ganesh. on Dusherra we worship Ram and so on.. and we can not worship without their pics or statues so we do keep them and every Hindu home has a very small temple inside house.
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sailor10 (772) | 3 months ago | I feel the body is the temple and all the deities you mentioned are stationed in the various parts of the body.I feel the need to cleanse my mind and body so that these deities shine forth in all glory.
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4. EvanHunter (1581) | 3 months ago | I'm Christian and I don't have any pictures of Jesus (which wouldn't be anything what he looked like anyways) and I don't have any crosses or crucifixions hanging on any of the walls either. To me its Idolatry I can't say if its right for anyone else but for me it just does not feel like the right thing to do. As far as prayers I keep that between me and God.
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sailor10 (772) | 3 months ago | If you are a christian you will feel Him inside you, you will see Him in yourself.The spiritual journey is personal and inter personal .Maybe you will enjoy the guidance and support that can be given by true seekers.Happy Lotting!
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5. awapak (457) | 3 months ago | This post contains content of a mature nature. You must be Signed in or Registered to have the option to view this content.
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sailor10 (772) | 3 months ago | That is quite a lot of information.I believe photos do carry vibrations which can affect the peace and harmony of a home.You say Allah hoo Akbar sixteen times a day and you feel the speech and the words becoming very powerful and effective.There is a very powerful shoe beating technique i`ve learnt from Muslims which can get rid of problems almost magically.
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awapak (457) | 3 months ago | Thanks for responding and sharing your nice views about Islam.You will find it the most realistic,practical and comprehensive religion today,having an unaltered divine book for centuries.We are required to believe in all the Prophets of God Almighty including Moses,David,Jacob,Job,Noah,Abraham and Jesus(peace be upon them)and we are also waiting for Jesus.He is still alive/never died and will be coming at Damascus(Syria)before the Last Day........He will lead us in a Holy War against the last Antichrist and will establish the IDEAL WORLD STATE on this earth to fill it with ideal peace,prosperity and Justice....We also believe in chaste Marry(Maryam).This is what we believe about Jesus and his chaste mother......But most of the people do not know about the basic teachings of Islam.....
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6. 1hopefulman (1393) | 3 months ago | My God is insvisible and no one has ever seen Him. So making some tangible form of what He would look like is quite impossible. He does not want any represenatation made.
Exodus 20:4-6 (New International Version)
4 "You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, 6 but showing love to a thousand{generations} of those who love me and keep my commandments.
We can do much for the living but we cannot do anything for the dead, neither can they do anything for us.
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7. lotterylover (4844) | 3 months ago | I don't put up picture of Christ as it is really not him and I certainly don't pray to them or any ancestors I may have up. Most of my pictures are in books stored in the closest so they are not a prominent feature in my home. I do think we can spend way too much on photos although today with all the digital cameras and computer storage that really doesn't have to be so. I don't think I would go as far as taking all pictures out of my house. I wouldn't even be able to let the newspaper come into my house as it has pictures. Would we be able to allow nature pictures in our house as we aren't to make images of anything God has made? Would we then have to take all puzzles out of our house as it is an image of something? Do we need to get rid of stuffed animals (I have heard preachers say so) from our house because they are images to animals or people as in dolls? Should we then wear clothes without flowers, butterflies, etc on them because they are images? What about T.V.? Images come onto T.V.s? How about artificial flowers we put on grave sites. I tried real ones and they got stolen. We could get carried away couldn't we?
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sailor10 (772) | 3 months ago | hi you sure could get carried away.The broad hint at sarcasm is not missed,but the point is well taken.i have to make my choices as you have to make yours.
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lotterylover (4844) | 3 months ago | There are some people who do get carried away by not bowing down to images to mean all the things I listed. I think the main point is not to make graven images that we bow down too. We can have all these other images like pictures in our home but they weren't graven in order for us to worship them.
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sailor10 (772) | 3 months ago | I am hastening the process of detachment.By removing photos the images will statt to fade faster.The departed soul has finished its mission on earth and any mental attachment from my side will only halt its further progress.My mind too will be free of the attachment. I can remember with detachment so that i can focus, if necessary and be able to withdraw my chitta at will.Its personal, I agree but I like to reveal my personal side for the world to see from time to time.
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tingtong (1432) | 3 months ago | When I said personal, i meant those who believe in Sanathana Dharmam, & other believers, not you or me. sorry. Detachment is the way towards Moksha. If you can attain it [detachment] at this age it's great. Still there is a long way to go. Bhakti marga in Bhagavat Gita describes it. I'm still at the infant stage. I can't change the rituals i practiced from childhood. Though I know the idols in the temples & pictures are not God, I just cannot throw them away. In kerala we don't keep the photos of the departed in the prayer room. But we do the shradda without fail. happy lotting.
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sailor10 (772) | 3 months ago | hi thanks for the honest answer.I believe now that moksha is our right, in fact should be the main pursuit,all other aspirations are insignificant.I am sorry that i`ve taken this long to realize this simple fact.Luckily i`ve always kept my mind open so the decision was easy.happy lotting!
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9. bird123 (1208) | 3 months ago | Now, it's not going to hurt to have a photo of dear ole dad or other departed people around the house. Let's not go overboard on this. As far as photos of deities, they won't be really pictures of God, so why do it? There are just useful in reinforcing beliefs that are not true.
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10. GADHISUNU (1154) | 3 months ago | Understanding the real purpose of a relationship with God is more important than images or no images. The one who is well rooted in understanding what really is Paramatma, and the relation of the jivatma to Paramatma, would remain neutral to having images or not having them.
My father's photos are there at home. I don't tink it will in anyway alter his progress in his spiritual evolution. I find the declarations made in The Vedas, the most perfect, for I understand them to the extent I am capable of as on date on what they say. If at all, I must in all humility admit that the whole import of THE VEDAS is simply not possible to be discussed, in words. One must ultimately get beyond words, to see the Truth. Truth is revealed only in the inner silence.
In Sanatana Dharma imagery is not condemned or pooh-poohed. That is sufficient for me to retain the photos of deities or human beings. But I do,however find it difficult to dispose them off when they are mutilated or weather-worn and unusable. For as per the shastras, mutilated forms of deities aren't to kept in worship.One has to think of ways of disposing them without affecting the environment. That is the only catch.
I like the stance Sanatana Dharma takes because it spans the whole gamut of every kind of relationship with God.You could take Him to be the Impersonal Reality Indescribable, Op,Opre,OS,Formless,Infinite Brahman or a Personal God albeit without a given Shape or Form, yet benevolent, infinintely kind etc., or a Personal God having a persona, hence identify Him with some image to begin with and He in His Infinite Mercy will reveal Himself and shine forth in the devotee of the lowest pursuasion. Hence, the God of SD doesn't punish except to correct. Even if He kills one as Evil, the Evil[the RakShasas and other Evil forces] gets absorbed into His Infinite Magnificence. In Death by Him even Evil has the right to seek Deliverance!!?!! What more can one hope or yearn for?
The story of Bhakta Kannappa is a point to be considered to understand how close He is to one who seeks. This hunter knew nothing of the high philosophy or what is spoken of or said in The Vedas. All he knew was someone told him that the image of Shiva in the form Linga need be worshipped. He did not know how to do it. He used to bring a mouthful of water, a handful of the flesh of the animal he had hunted and to carry the flowers to be placed on the Lord's image he kept 'em on his own head.[No one who knew the ways of worship would resort to such blasphemy! He used to remove the previous day's flowers by his raised foot.He used to spit the water on the Lord's image, and place the choicest piece of flesh in front of the idol,and then take out those flowers on his head and offer them to his God!
This routine went on for some time when the Lord wanted to test his devotee. One day Kannappa saw that blood was dripping out of the eye of the image. K simply took off his eye and placed it on the image. Then the Lord tested him with the other eye. He put His leg to mark the position of the Lord's other eye and proceeded to pluck his own other eye to gift it to the Lord. The Lord appeared and not only restored him his sight, but He blessed him with what every Hindu[who understands the purpose of his religion and his life, desires- the release from the cycle of births and deaths!
Now thw whole thing may be a story not having an iota of historical reality. But it drives home the point what sort of a relationship with God takes you where. This is the Glory of Sanatana Dharma- SD is unparallelled in its simplicity. God might be unavailable to the greatest scholar of The Vedas, is realised instantly by the likes of Kannappa!!
So, I am OK with having no images at all! Then I am onto Upanishads. I am able to completely se Him in any image including the alive and kicking Man, to feel the same reverence or Love or whatever name you would like to give to this feeling.
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sailor10 (772) | 3 months ago | hi Gadhisunu i am glad that you have taken the effort to pour out your learnings.Its all very impressive and laudable.I too have done my bit of research and studies but luckily i gave it up a long time ago.Because of what you know have you been able to enjoy the bliss of detachment and liberation?have you been able to feel the magnificence of detachment and meditation?Have you realized that the true you is not your mind or body but an entity which was within you all this time but you were unaware of him.Have you not suffered miserably at the hands of your mind and body.These two are supposed to be the servants of the real you.I`ll give an example.
YOU are the passenger sitting in a car which is driven by a driver.Let us say that the driver is your mind and the car itself is your body. Who do you think is running the show? the driver or the car or the real YOU. If your answer is the car or the driver then where is the passenger, that is YOU,going? Are YOU going to take charge or follow the whims of your mind or the car? I suppose you understand what i am saying.Now is the time to take charge before the unruly mind and the sensual body fail you.I am realizing the precarious situation that i am in and am firmly gaining control of my servants the driver and the car or else I may lose both these servants and be stranded midway between here and hell.I am not interested in changing my driver or the car,I am merely going to treat them as my servants so that iam in charge and then there is hope of my reaching my destination that is well... you know it all. I am not going to indulge my car by practicing rituals or the driver by reading fancy books and chanting mantras. I am going to extract quality service from both or else i have no chance. Happy lotting!
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tingtong (1432) | 3 months ago | Hi, You have said what I wanted to express. Me too don't need pictures to worship, but out of habit they are kept & respected without ever thinking of the need to throw them away.Our daily life & conduct to a large extend are guided by the injuctions of the Vedas. That's why we conduct purifactory rites called 'samskaras' during birth, marriage & death. We worship animals,plants, rivers & stones. It is to see the all pervading God in superficial forms. It is to spiritualize the whole attitude & vision of man.
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tingtong (1432) | 3 months ago | hi sailor, i got impressed by gadhisunu's lines & wrote the above comment.
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GADHISUNU (1154) | 3 months ago | Sailor, in one of my previous comments to one of your posts on the "Goal of Life" I had already said what I had to, about your inclinations and pursuits. I was very touched by your dedication to the attainment of Moksha.You are pat bang onto The Path and are giving it the right importance.
Also see where you are going too, by putting yourself to test. And don't you worry, He(Apply it to The ever-effulgent Atman or the Supreme Paramatma- as your saamskaric proclivities lead you to believe)will test you in time. You will come to know where you stand and what you need to learn.
I have been a "learner" on the path ever since my 5th Grade. This was possible because I come from a family which has been with God for generations.It is this long association, and living examples of my Grandfather and Father that pulled me into the path I must say.While they were not much impressed by Scriptural study beyond the Gita, since they believed in following a very simple path on lines of what I had described above, and I being blessed by the Lord for a different path perhaps, I have been endowed with an increasingly sharpening knowledge of the Language of our Scriptures, viz., Sanskrit, I have been able to savor the Scriptural knowledge with better insight each passing day. This is the high point of my life today.
And detachment comes. Even though one is instructed by the Scriptures to detach it only happens when one is sufficiently advanced.
I would like you to ponder over:"How do you know you are advancing?" "How do you recognize a realized soul?". Some one like a jIvanmukta, for instance...
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sailor10 (772) | 3 months ago | hi Gadhisunu Looks like you started much earlier.My pursuit began on 13 Feb 93,if i`m not wrong.i remember somehow.That is not the point,since I feel experience and reviewing your experiences enrich you more and more in these matters.And this may be more important than theoretical and scriptural knowledge.
Feeling the awakening may be more crucial than learning about it,thats my opinion.Observation of the self is another activity that i am indulging in more and more.
I too was soaking in the knowledge but that knowledge inspired me for sometime and then frustration started to set in and i was drifting away from my search.And now it is happening.Maybe the result of my earlier efforts and the saamsarik proclivities as you so beautifully put,maybe pushing me gently to the PATH. My father passed away earlier this year and I realize that he was a firm believer in `walking the talk` and being his son I am inclined to do the same.Only thing is i wish to share it with my friends.May be i`ll curb that instinct somewhat.
Realization happens.I agree.And it may be happening right now. Can you feel it? Happy lotting! Do keep in close touch.
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sailor10 (772) | 3 months ago | Hi ting tong Thanks for barging in.come out with more thoughts on this.
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sailor10 (772) | 3 months ago | gadisunu you say you have been learning all your life,are you also `doing` what you have learnt so that you are sufficiently advanced for the detachment to `happen` or `come`as you would like to say.
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GADHISUNU (1154) | 3 months ago | Sailor, you are doing the right thing. Your sharing is not at all bad. In fact our Scriptures say: "Swaadhyaaya pravachanaabhyaam na pramaditavyam". Though in a ritualistic sense this might mean something else, whcich we need not get into now; it only means that we need, not only to practice and getinside ourselves in our searches but share it so that others who are on the path might also benefit.
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