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myLot reputation of 99/100. fjaril (4152)   ranked 29 out of 38,017 in life1 month ago

We have options, choices, here in Sweden.... But do YOU? Legally, I mean.

I think a name is a personal identity.. who you are, who you have been

-Why is it more women do NOT choose to keep their own name?

-Why is it so difficult to continue in your business of marriage and childrearing with different names?

-Does your boss at work have the same name as all the other bosses there?

-Is this ever going to change everywhere?

-Is this an archaic practice.. still laying claim to ownership of our women, are we, fellas??

So you can be Mr and Mrs John Smith
OR
you can be Mary Jones and John Smith.. Which will it be and why?

 
 
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1. myLot reputation of 97/100. lynnemg (3570)   ranked 662 out of 38,017 in life   1 month ago

I do not think it is mandatory here in the US. I remember that I was asked if I was taking my husband's name when we got married. I think that anymore, it is more af a time-honored tradition to take the husband's name.


myLot reputation of 93/100. zoey7879 (1254)   ranked 3,872 out of 38,017 in life  1 month ago

Nope.. Not mandatory at all. In fact, you can legally change or assume any name that you desire, so long as it is not done to commit acts of fraud or evading.


myLot reputation of 99/100. fjaril (4152)   ranked 29 out of 38,017 in life  1 month ago

lynnemg..a ‘time honoured’ tradition.hmmmm. IS that to mean that because it has always been that way?? so why not?
Thanx lynne, for expressing it like this. I imagine that may well be the answer of many, never to question or need to question, perhaps??

BUT, zoey!!.. so you wouldn’t want to tell them while you are filling in the official government form that you were planning to commit some kind of crime, ..er.. right?
aaah! Just what I needed.. a reason to chuckle and smile. Thankyou ma’am!!

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2. myLot reputation of 96/100. book1962 (14496)   ranked 1,527 out of 38,017 in life   1 month ago

hi fjaril, we also have the option of using either of the family names or to hyphenate or that each one keeps his and her own name.
I have a colleague who is married, kept her name and does not wear a wedding band so when you just meet her, no signs that she is married. lol

I personally wanted to get rid of my maiden name when I married. First of all cause my maiden name is a bit complicated and you have tons of misspellings second as it bound and glued me to my father what I did not like the smallest bit.
I have a family name now which is very common here in Germany you find tons of it in each phone directory, lol, but I am much much happier too.


myLot reputation of 97/100. thea09 (4154)   ranked 2 out of 38,017 in life  1 month ago

Hi book, fjaril won't mind me going off topic here for a moment(will you fjaril dear) but we heard today of a new German supermarket chain opeing here cheaper than the other one we have Liddl. Any idea which chain is expanding South and any good or not? HAve a great weekend too book.


myLot reputation of 96/100. book1962 (14496)   ranked 1,527 out of 38,017 in life  1 month ago

hi thea I hope fjaril wont mind but Lidl is an awesome discounter. They have a great range of products, some name brand but also some generic stuff and its really worthwhile buying there.
The only thing you got to be careful is veggies and fruits. Best is when you are able to be there in the morning here its best around 9-9:30 whn they have unpacked the fresh stuff for the day. When you get there in the afternoon you will not he likely to get the really good stuff any more.


myLot reputation of 99/100. fjaril (4152)   ranked 29 out of 38,017 in life  1 month ago

OKEJ YOU TWO!! Get a room!

((pssssst.. They have the very best ever Mueslli... 'Goodis'( I blieve) is the brand name and this mix is wonderful.. fruit and nuts and all things fine..the best I ever have eaten and I eat it every day at least once -and in yogurt!))


myLot reputation of 99/100. fjaril (4152)   ranked 29 out of 38,017 in life  1 month ago

soo, book.. your maiden name was complicated so you wanted to get rid of it?? So how is the marriage??

Just kidding.. but I can understand reasons like that.. emotional baggage is something you should leave at the airport, or in your case.. it was the altar, right?
I am so glad you are much happier now, with a very common German name.. let's guess.. Schmidt??
((Don't answer that of course,, privacy is an important right here, my friend.. I am just playing here.))
Take care, book!! Be well.


myLot reputation of 96/100. book1962 (14496)   ranked 1,527 out of 38,017 in life  1 month ago

hi fjaril not Schmidt nor Müller nor Meier but still common enough so no one will misspell that name ever. lol
And it was real emotional baggage with my maiden name not because of the wrong spelling but cause my parents divorced when I was not quite 2 and all my father had in store for me were lies about my mom and trying to make me as miserable as he could so thats why I was happy to get rid of that name.


myLot reputation of 99/100. fjaril (4152)   ranked 29 out of 38,017 in life  1 month ago

aaah book.. really really I am sorry for your tough times.. I remember them well myself, so I know..You took control and made a decision to better your situation and there is NOTHING wrong with that.. even if you have a fairly common German name.. Nothing wrong with belonging to a strong and proud people, is there!wink

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3. myLot reputation of 91/100. rocketj1 (2201)   ranked 786 out of 38,017 in life   1 month ago

We don't have to change our maiden name to our husband's if we don't want to here in the US. I have never looked at it as an archaic tradition. I look at it as an easier way to keep track of who is related to whom. As a woman, I looked at it as a way to become "one" with my husband. Some women keep their names, some hyphenate the two. I really don't see a problem with any of it. However, working as a dental assistant, it was much easier for us to keep track of insurance records if the married partners shared the same name. Especially if there were children involved.


myLot reputation of 99/100. fjaril (4152)   ranked 29 out of 38,017 in life  1 month ago

Finally,, a practical reason.. I have been waiting for you, rocketj..So you are this smart practical dental person who sees all these benefits so that everyone gets their benefits. WOW! Does the American Government not need you to help run something?

nono.. don't answer that. I would not want to lose you here, you see.
Be well, my friend. wonderful to see you again!


myLot reputation of 91/100. rocketj1 (2201)   ranked 786 out of 38,017 in life  1 month ago

Oh, you know all about the practical Dutch, right? lol As for working for the government, I think they need a lot more help than I could ever give them!


myLot reputation of 99/100. fjaril (4152)   ranked 29 out of 38,017 in life  1 month ago

hahaha.. You are too modest. But you are also right in 'another' sense!winkwhistle

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4. myLot reputation of 94/100. LadyMarissa (2654)   ranked 442 out of 38,017 in life   1 month ago

Here in the US, I don't think we are required to take his name. I know we didn't have to before Sept 11. The law may have been changed since then & I wouldn't know it. I've had friends who got married & didn't take their husband's name or put their name first then hyphenated his name behind theirs. The way I look at it is, if you love him enough to marry him, why not take his name??? If I wasn't willing to take his name, I wouldn't marry him at all!!!

I AM MY IDENTITY...NOT MY LAST NAME!!! w00t w00t w00t


myLot reputation of 99/100. fjaril (4152)   ranked 29 out of 38,017 in life  1 month ago

Beating around the bush as usual, I see!! w00t

Okej, you say this all like you mean it and with THAT kind of conviction, far be it for ME to try to change your mind.. Not that I ever would want to, my friend!


myLot reputation of 94/100. LadyMarissa (2654)   ranked 442 out of 38,017 in life  1 month ago

NOT like you could either!!! lol wub lol


myLot reputation of 99/100. fjaril (4152)   ranked 29 out of 38,017 in life  1 month ago

I asked for that and I pay the price. I know when I am outsmarted, dearest outsmartor!!


myLot reputation of 94/100. LadyMarissa (2654)   ranked 442 out of 38,017 in life  1 month ago

GOOD BOY!!! wub wink wub

 
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5. myLot reputation of 85/100. Hatley (20201)   ranked 1,366 out of 38,017 in life   1 month ago

fjaril I have seen women hyphenize their last name with their husbands here in the US and if I had it to do over I would
have done the same thing. I do feel that we sort of lose our
identity when we become his wife, your childs mom, and I want tp scream I am Patsie, I am me, I am not an appendage to my deceased husband or to my son like an extra arm or let, I am me.


myLot reputation of 99/100. fjaril (4152)   ranked 29 out of 38,017 in life  1 month ago

Now Patsie Hatley!! Say it like you mean it, girl!! That scream felt good coming from YOU! I mean it! Remember Helen Redding?? "I am woman, hear me roar"!!
You are YOU and independent and, what is more.. you can hypenate to your content now.. are you planning to remarry one day? If so, you could even get him to add YOUR name?? what do you think?happy

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6. myLot reputation of 97/100. thea09 (4154)   ranked 2 out of 38,017 in life   1 month ago

Hi fjaril, as you would immagine I loathe the old fashioned usage of Mrs John Smith which many of the older generation still like to use, to me it signals that the woman is merely an appendage.
Now to take the name or not, I did do, as preferred it to the original one. If I did it again it would depend on the name on offer, obviously if the surmane in question was akin to Fatcabbage for instance then I would decline, as wouldn't like to go under that name.
As to your other point, there are only a few surnames round here anyway as everyone is related to everyone else to start wit, so it is common to meet many Kyriakaipolarasis in the course of one day. happy
Whatever I chose you may rest assured I would not be an appendage.


myLot reputation of 97/100. thea09 (4154)   ranked 2 out of 38,017 in life  1 month ago

I think I actually did a discussion on surnames not so long back, but that was Greek style. lol


myLot reputation of 96/100. book1962 (14496)   ranked 1,527 out of 38,017 in life  1 month ago

thea, I miss a smiley here in mylot clapping hands so please take this comment as such a smiley...... have a great weekend.


myLot reputation of 99/100. fjaril (4152)   ranked 29 out of 38,017 in life  1 month ago

I have not for one split second considered you capable of being an appendage of any nature whatsoever.. or person either!. THAT doesn't come anywhere close to what I think of you.. and THAT is as close as I am going with this one. w00t

If you had a choice, and of course you do!!, what kind of a name would it be then? Not the one you had,. you didn't like it.. but what actually rolls well off your tongue??


myLot reputation of 97/100. thea09 (4154)   ranked 2 out of 38,017 in life  1 month ago

Well i'm most partial to Theothoriakais which rolls easily. It sounds better writtne in Greek obviously and loses a lot in transliteration. cool


myLot reputation of 99/100. fjaril (4152)   ranked 29 out of 38,017 in life  1 month ago

well I like it!!niiice! Rolls well on my tongue.. and THAT is important.. Could I spell it tomorrow?? Not a chance!! Could I spell it in 5 minutes, though.. Get real!! It's all 'greek' to MEE!whistle


myLot reputation of 97/100. thea09 (4154)   ranked 2 out of 38,017 in life  1 month ago

Well you can't expect me to go round marrying a load of Scandanavians just so you can pronounce my new name. w00t


myLot reputation of 99/100. fjaril (4152)   ranked 29 out of 38,017 in life  4 weeks ago

noooo.. never.. we have bigamy laws here too, you know? Never mind your erroneous view on vikings.. we live by the book here. the legal one, I mean! One cannot just run around collecting men with names!w00t

I like your name AND what is more, I can pronounce it.. I also have forked tongue due to multilingual misusage.

One should have a name one is proud of .. Are you that, then?


myLot reputation of 97/100. thea09 (4154)   ranked 2 out of 38,017 in life  4 weeks ago

I'm confused now, you now like the name I fancied which last week you couldn't pronounce but now it's tripping off your tongue. That is why I thought you wanted me to come and find a Swedish name,I wasn't planning on taking yours. w00t


myLot reputation of 99/100. fjaril (4152)   ranked 29 out of 38,017 in life  4 weeks ago

Well you just can't go around taking names anyway.. unless you are talking about marriage or something.. THEN yes! What does your name mean?? THAT is really important when you should be thinking of a name.. Mine refers to a certain tree branch!w00t

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7. myLot reputation of 91/100. laglen (3711)   ranked 651 out of 38,017 in life   1 month ago

In the United States you have a choice. I feel if you marry and make that commitment to somebody til death do you part, I think it is right to take your husbands name.


myLot reputation of 99/100. fjaril (4152)   ranked 29 out of 38,017 in life  1 month ago

FIVE ARMED NUNS!!.. I feel you are very serious in your committment and far be it for me to even questioncry
Mywink hands are up and I have no argument with you.. okej?wink

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8. myLot reputation of 94/100. betsyraeduke (1225)   ranked 683 out of 38,017 in life   1 month ago

I'm in the U.S. and it is not required for us women to change our last names here when we get married if we don't want to. However, I did change my last name when I married and that was because I wanted to. My reason for wanting to was more of a silly, personal reason than anything. I do not like my maiden name for various different reasons so I chose to take my husband's name.


myLot reputation of 99/100. fjaril (4152)   ranked 29 out of 38,017 in life  1 month ago

I am all for the freedom of choice.. so if the choice was yours, all the better. Your avatar is so cute, ya know?wink


myLot reputation of 94/100. betsyraeduke (1225)   ranked 683 out of 38,017 in life  1 month ago

Yes, thank you, I do know that my avatar is cute. It is a picture of my son happy


myLot reputation of 99/100. fjaril (4152)   ranked 29 out of 38,017 in life  1 month ago

he is such a cutie too!happy

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9. myLot reputation of 95/100. LittleMel (6484)   ranked 358 out of 38,017 in life   1 month ago

Nope, don't think so. At least I don't remember reading any law that forbids me use my single name when I am married. There shouldn't be any difficulties regarding that.
I choose to change my last name only because I like his last name:) it's more western and I live here in the west anyway.


myLot reputation of 99/100. fjaril (4152)   ranked 29 out of 38,017 in life  1 month ago

LittleMel.. a western name?? I am soo not up on my western names that I would recognize a difference in geographic placement. But, obviously YOU know quite well and that is truly all that matters.

I don't need to 'know' everything, do I!!w00t

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10. myLot reputation of 93/100. cloudwatcher (3247)   ranked 136 out of 38,017 in life   1 month ago

Here in Australia it is legal to keep one's maiden name if desired. This was most uncommon until about 20 years ago and the only women doing so were ones with their own business, or doctors, artists, writers etc. Nowadays many women do it.
Personally, I see no point to keeping a maiden name and on the contrary, I see problems.

As a woman, I am PROUD to be my husband's wife and to take his name. I would consider it an insult to him if I did not. Taking his name makes absolutely NO difference to who I am. I am still me: it doesn't make me his possession (even though I have no objection whatsoever to belonging to him) I consider that in marriage I am joined to him for life, so taking his name is part and parcel of the union and unity we share.

I believe the family - the family unit - is the greatest asset of any nation. I am not suggesting that a family with different surnames cannot be a happy family unit, because I know some families in that situation that put others to shame. I do believe, however that having the same name unifies them to "The Smith Family" or "The Jones Family" or whatever. I know one couple who, whenever they are introduced to someone, find it necessary to say "We ARE married, but she/I kept her/my own name."

For me as a woman, the biggest deterrent to keeping my own name would be that my children would have a different name. How dreadful! I couldn't tolerate that!

I think the old form of address, for example Mrs John Smith, is seldom seen, having been replaced with Mrs Mary Smith, which is a true reflection of who she is.

After all, there is no more important role in life than that of wife and mother. happyhappyhappy


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myLot reputation of 97/100. paintswithwords (242)   ranked 1,594 out of 38,017 in life  1 month ago

I am inclined to agree wholeheartedly with your view. Taking on the name of your husband does not in any way detract from the personality that makes up who you are. in a relationship, those things are determined by how the couple interacts with each other, not in whether or not the name is taken as a family name or the wife keeps her maiden name.

I like how you expressed it here. The taking of one name sets the whole family apart as a unit of its own. Otherwise, the one keeping her maiden name is almost separate or not a part of the family unit, in which case why get married.

A name does not possess you. Just ask one of my husbands whose names I took if they ever thought of me as their property...ha!, what an answer you would get.

It is a choice, woman today use the hyphenated name combining their maiden name with the husbands name. I have no objection to whatever a woman chooses.


myLot reputation of 82/100. Brad2289 (141)   ranked 8,878 out of 38,017 in life  1 month ago

You CAN get your name changed but you do not have to. Also, you can have both last names and get them hyphenated. hope i helped!


myLot reputation of 99/100. fjaril (4152)   ranked 29 out of 38,017 in life  1 month ago

aaaaah cloudwatcher,, What a delight you are! You KNOW I love to sit here and just read and reread what you say and believe. It is such a literary delight too, so well thought out and written.. sigh!happy


myLot reputation of 99/100. fjaril (4152)   ranked 29 out of 38,017 in life  1 month ago

Well thanx for your information here Brad. Of course it helps! Welcome to myLot!! Thanx for dropping by and giving your thoughts!!
Take care and have fun too!!


myLot reputation of 99/100. fjaril (4152)   ranked 29 out of 38,017 in life  1 month ago

paintwithwords!! very well spoken, indeed! “ A name does not possess you”!! brilliant!
and yes, it IS a choice, and for me, THAT is a very important thing.

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