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myLot reputation of 97/100. boybato (2210) 3 years ago

They're already old but yet can still sure play some serious basketball. Grant Hill is already 37 years old and Steve Nash is 35. Alvin Gentry is planning to bring back the old Suns run-and-gun basketball but seriously, I'm skeptical if it could bring them far. First of all, the Suns doesn't have a deep roster and they'll have to resort once again to their 8-man rotation which they did during Mike D'Antoni's time but now with a much weaker line-up. Nash, Amare Stoudemire, Hill, Jason Richardson, and Leandro Barbosa are the only players who could pose as a serious threat for other teams. Other than that, the Suns doesn't have a solid inside presence. Stoudemire is good offensively but he's not that good defensively. Other teams like the Lakers and the Spurs in the West will just torment the Suns inside, much more Orlando, Cleveland, and Boston. Channing Frye is too small and not a legitimate center in the first place while Louis Amundson is not hard enough to keep up with the NBA bigs. A 6th place finish will be a big accomplishment for the Suns if they make it to the playoffs. I'm actually optimistic about the Suns making it to the postseason but an early first round exit would be so likely. Either the Lakers, Spurs, or the Nuggets will be their first round opponents and these teams are way better than the Suns.

This is the Suns last season. Sad to think that the era of run-and-gun and fun-and-gun are now gone and haven't produced much results. Nash isn't getting any younger and it shows in his game. The Suns are heading to rebuilding after the 2009-2010 season. There are a lot of uncertainties surrounding the Suns. Will Amare stay until the end of the season? Can Steve Kerr still pull off some deals and at least redeem himself from previous failed deals? Will the run-and-gun still work?

I'm optimistic about the Suns having a winning record this season and I just hope they can make a deal during the course of the season to at least strengthen the team especially on defense.

Any other Suns fans here?

 

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1. myLot reputation of 86/100. blessing2u (431)   ranked 38 out of 197 in nba   3 years ago

I am not a solid Phoenix Suns fan but I like to watch the National Basketball Association games. I used to see the Suns with what you described as a run and gun style. They had some good success with that style. When a new coached was hired and O'neal joined them last season, their games deteriorated and there are no more running and gunning. You have a very good prediction and glimpse of what the season for the Suns might be.


myLot reputation of 97/100. boybato (2210)  3 years ago

The main reason of the Suns' decline was Steve Kerr. Since Kerr took over the GM's (general manager) role for the Suns, the team started to go down. There were several head coaching changes and it was highlighted by the failed Shaquille O'Neal for Shawn Marion trade. So why did the Suns fail? Here are some of my observations:

1.) Since Steve Nash returned to Phoenix in 2004, the Suns were designed by Mike D'Antoni to become a highly offensive team that thrives in fast paced basketball. They had achieved success in that and even changed the way the NBA plays right now, more high scoring games plus it is indeed entertaining. When Kerr took over as the GM and Terry Porter as the new head coach, several adjustments were made which affected the Suns type of basketball. Shaq doesn't fit a run-and-gun type of basketball and because of his presence, the Suns have to slow down a bit. Because they aren't putting much emphasis on defense, playing a slow paced basketball didn't do them good.

2.) The Suns are stuck with a very limited roster. Of all the players on their roster, only about 5 or 6 guys are reliable enough. Other teams are as deep as they can get while the Suns revolves on a very limited rotation. They are still facing the same dilemma this season. I really don't understand why Steve Kerr took Shaq instead of younger and cheaper players for Marion. But maybe we could wait for the 2010 offseason, maybe Kerr can pull something off his sleeve, Chris Bosh perhaps?

3.) Age is already starting to take it's toll. Grant Hill is 37 while Steve Nash is 35. Though both are still playing at a high level of basketball, they have indeed slowed down. They can still put up decent numbers game after game but compared against younger players like Chris Paul and Deron Williams on Nash and Kevin Durant on Hill, these younger guys are already way better which means the Suns need more to win games. Amare Stoudemire is forecasted to have a big season but with the limited line-up the Suns have, his efforts might go to waste. Probably a 20-10 season for Stoudemire.

Before Nash retires or probably either he or Stoudemire head somewhere else, I'd really love to see the Suns do the run-and-gun and fun-and-gun basketball. Despite a limited roster they have, with Nash and a healthy Stoudemire and highly athletic Jason Richardson, the Suns is still a very entertaining team to watch.

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2. Oland18 (32)   ranked 112 out of 197 in nba   3 years ago

I am a Suns fan and I think they will win this year. Nash had a great group this time and they are on the top now. I really like they early offense and myself play PG as Nash and I have a group and that's what we deed Early offense and pick and roll. I enjoyed that.


myLot reputation of 97/100. boybato (2210)  3 years ago

Phoenix just defeated the Memphis Grizzlies earlier and they once again claimed the number 1 spot for the season with 12-3. It's not yet so sure if they can go on with their winning ways or retain the number 1 seed for the rest of the season. The Suns have a very limited line-up and once fatigue will start to keep up with them, it might sound and spell trouble, especially considering the fact that most of the Suns reliable players are aging (Steve Nash, Grant Hill, and Leandro Barbosa) and fragile (Amare Stoudemire).

I just hope that the Suns can pick some more players to further boost their line-up because their shallow roster will really hit them come playoffs time especially against teams like the Lakers, Spurs, Mavericks, Nuggets, and even the Trail Blazers and Hornets.


Oland18 (32)   ranked 112 out of 197 in nba  3 years ago

You have the point but Nash and Hill play their best basketball in their career, it seems that Nash did a good job on maintaining his body and taught his teammate well... Look at Dudley how his body lose weight and I read article that Nash is his mentor.


myLot reputation of 97/100. boybato (2210)  3 years ago

Yes indeed, Steve Nash is one of the most disciplined players in the NBA right now. Seeing somebody as old as him play and even lead a team at a very high level is quite rare. There are a few players that I have seen do that and such names include Michael Jordan and Karl Malone, not a really bad list to belong to. Anyway, though Nash and Hill are playing great, they're already old and I think they're a step slower than younger players. Add to that Phoenix's not so deep roster, I don't think it would be good for the Suns as the season progresses. Though I'm not expecting the Suns to keep in pace with juggernauts like the Lakers and Nuggets in the West and Celtics, Magic, and Cavaliers in the East, the Suns are good enough to go far and give other teams some good challenge. I'm really thinking that this is the Suns last successful season if they intend to keep Nash and Stoudemire as their core. Their age is really a factor to consider for the team's future. Anyway, the 2010 offseason's free agency pool is really so deep and the Suns can really pick somebody up to build up for the future.

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3. myLot reputation of 86/100. elmiko (3689)   ranked 1 out of 197 in nba   3 years ago

grant hill is doing great for how much hes had to deal with during his nba career. grant hill got mursa due to his ankle injury which had many pins and screws put in it to repair it. if you saw his ankle in an ex-ray it would looks like a hardware store. mursa is very deadly and many people have died from the infection and to see him come back in the nba and do as good as hes done is just spectacular.

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