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myLot reputation of 98/100. astonysh (1935)   ranked 235 out of 1,016 in usa2 months ago

shockedI was sitting browsing the Home Page in MyLot five minutes ago when an advert flashed up in German inviting me to apply for a Green Card so that I can get into the USA legally and work there.

Fair enough. Despite making endless job applications here, I seem to be getting nowhere ("too experienced", "too talented", "too clever by half" - that sort of reply - never "too old", though that is what they mean). Going back to the UK, my native country, has little appeal - most of the friends that I have still there are unemployed or underemployed. thumbdown

So maybe a 61-year-old IT Specialist could find a role somewhere in the USA? (And I have lived there before - in Milwaukee in the late 1980s).

Problems? The unemployment rate seems ridiculously high there as well. And the vast majority of comments that I get on MyLot from Americans do not make it sound that things are going that well either, and some people are positively angry about things. angry

And I also get the impression that foreigners are not that welcome, at least if they choose to stay.

And I am an atheist, albeit a very tolerant atheist.

So why would I want a Green Card at the moment? Or maybe should someone there request their governments to put an end to these adverts until things get better?

 
 
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1. myLot reputation of 84/100. goldenteardrops (133)   2 months ago

well to start off I would say jobs are not alot here in te U.S.A. right now and money is hard to get for alot of people right now. A far as people welcome here there is alot liveing here right now that are from other places. I know alot of people here need help who have lived here all their life and know some who came here live better than those who have always been here. So to think on these things all depends on why they come here and what purpose. To get a start one needs to have something to start with.


myLot reputation of 98/100. astonysh (1935)   ranked 235 out of 1,016 in usa  2 months ago

Hi,

thanks for the reply.

The lack of jobs is definitely a problem, and unfortunately is right across the world at the moment. You are definitely right with the last statement of your post.

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2. myLot reputation of 89/100. Binthu (3420)   2 months ago

Hi Astonysh,

Most of the European countries would suffered very
badly due to this current economic crisis and also millions
of peoples are unemployed or underemployed, so they are struggling
for the life and many of them live the life without job and without
money, so the life is really miserable, in that condition why we need
to have the Green Card for USA, better to be here at least in our own
country to have some jobs to have the beautiful life with more supports
from all of our friends in our own country.

Have a nice day.


myLot reputation of 98/100. astonysh (1935)   ranked 235 out of 1,016 in usa  2 months ago

Hi Binthu,

thanks as ever for your reply.

What gets me really is that you would be leaving one bad situation for another, and upsetting people when you got there. Staying where you are makes more sense.

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3. myLot reputation of 96/100. thea09 (4832)   ranked 405 out of 1,016 in usa   2 months ago

Hi Tony, as usual the box above has just summed everything up so perfectly, apart from not noting that you are not in your own country but a foreign country.
If you read the politics section I'm sure you'll know that the US is about to become either a communitst state or a military state so possibly best avoided but if its the former then the religious bit won't matter as it will all be banned anyway. Maybe there's one of those schemes going there, I can't remeber the name, is it positive quota or something. They could make one up for Englishmen living in Germany and then you'll be guaranteed a job. Or was it positive discrimiation, Let me know as it will bug me until I think of the right word. happy


myLot reputation of 98/100. astonysh (1935)   ranked 235 out of 1,016 in usa  2 months ago

Hi Thea,

yes well they have had this for years, and the Irish apparently have an extra special bias. And I have also forgotten the expression you wanted!sad

In normal economic times it might serve some purpose, but it is surely only gonna get people's backs up at the moment. shocked

And then as an atheist I may be seen as an agitator, and as I have already abandoned one country to go elsewhere, that sense will be reinforced!angry

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4. myLot reputation of 96/100. mommaj (1085)   2 months ago

LOL. Those advertisements anger the Americans as well. Jobs are scarce here and for an agency to offer the jobs to foreigners, well that doesn't endow foreigners to Americans. I think they are running the advertisements to sucker people to spend the money to travel here, buy houses here, and then to get "stuck" here searching for a job. The world's economy is in trouble, so don't let people make money off of your aggravation. Once you get here you won't have an income and that would be very aggravating. If you want a job here look for it yourself and get your own green card without going through a "middle" man.


myLot reputation of 98/100. astonysh (1935)   ranked 235 out of 1,016 in usa  2 months ago

Hi,

thanks for your excellent reply.

I seriously cannot imagine at the moment that Americans would be very keensad to see an influx of foreign nationals like this, and have every right to be angry about this sort of advert.

The likelihood that I personally would follow up on this is low, but a lot of people will, and as you rightly point out, unscrupulous people will probably be the only ones to benefitangry. Sad for all parties concernedthumbdown.

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5. myLot reputation of 95/100. sysdexlicwriter (1139)   2 months ago

Of late I know exactly what you are saying. We are in the same situation here that you are there, just a couple of years short of your age. The Michigan area is very hard hit and many are living with family and holding their breath as to what will happen next. I see no problem that you are an atheist. I think this time in our world is an opportunity to step outside of what we have always believed about making a living and look at the opportunities that no one is talking about. I have a nephew that is graduating from college this year as an IT. He has a very meager job at the time in the IT area but spends a lot of time helping others with what he knows and for some reason he always has enough. He does not charge those he helps but it always seems to work out. I have had two relatives get jobs just recently where their jobs are much better than the ones that were lost. The new jobs are just amazingly better and they would have never been able to step into these positions if they had not lost their original jobs. We are still waiting for our income to increase, thinking positive, and doing all that can be done to ensure a good ending. Life is certainly uncertain anywhere but I am certain that we can all make a positive difference in the middle of it all. I wish you well on a job that your years of experience can surely give a company somewhere more than what they could dream of. After all there is no substitute for experience.


myLot reputation of 98/100. astonysh (1935)   ranked 235 out of 1,016 in usa  2 months ago

Hi,

thanks for your excellent reply and your kind words - I only hope that you are very right about the job, and very soon. I have a lot of self-belief, and I am sure that some firm should benefit from what I can offer.

I admire your positive attitude, particularly given the current difficult circumstances. We would all hope that more and better jobs is the eventual outcome after all this.

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6. myLot reputation of 94/100. solared (856)   2 months ago

If your in IT yeah theres a stronger chance to get a job here, much better than most americans, I say go for it.


myLot reputation of 98/100. astonysh (1935)   ranked 235 out of 1,016 in usa  2 months ago

Hi,

thanks for the reply.

That is what I might have guessed from reading some of the items that I have seen on LinkedIn.com. I think that age may well be a problem though, as it is here (it is the one thing more than anything that seems to impact negatively most of my applications here).

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7. myLot reputation of 93/100. mizcash (578)   ranked 925 out of 1,016 in usa   2 months ago

Even with the stark economy this country is still one of the better countries to be in. We have an unemployed rate of 9.8% and i am not going to lie, it is going to get worse before it gets better. But guess what, it is going to get better no matter what people say. Many are just scare because they don't know what the future holds for them.
There are still opportunities available in this country, it may not be as much as before but there are still jobs out there in different communities.
People also need to get innovative and create jobs for them selves, don't wait on someone to offer you a job. This will definitely help the economy grow.
These overseas agencies need to stop advertising for individuals to apply for green card to work in the USA. The little work here is to supply its citizens for survival.


myLot reputation of 98/100. astonysh (1935)   ranked 235 out of 1,016 in usa  2 months ago

Hi,

thanks for the reply.

I also have no doubt that the USA will recover. It is simply a question of time, hard work and patience - and dare I say, a bit more intelligent behaviour from the financial community.

From my point of view it is definitely the wrong time to think about going there. Improving the employment situation for the people already there should be the priority, and these adverts definitely need to stop.

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8. myLot reputation of 99/100. cutepenguin (3787)   2 months ago

I don't think it's actually the government that advertises these things. I think the ad is just hoping to encounter a few people who click on it, and it will actually be a thing where you pay for help or something. Or it's a scam.

I like where I live, so I don't really see the point in moving, but some people might move because of the industry they work in, their family, or a new relationship.


myLot reputation of 98/100. astonysh (1935)   ranked 235 out of 1,016 in usa  2 months ago

Hi,

thanks for the reply.

These things look pretty official, but could be some excellent artist at work.

The USA is still the promised land for a lot of people who may not be aware of the difficult times there. Certainly when people, unlike yourself, are going through difficult times, they may be prone to look for something better.

Given the global crisis is just that, moving anywhere has distinct disadvantages at the moment.

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9. myLot reputation of 51/100. MrNiceGuy (3066)   ranked 507 out of 1,016 in usa   2 months ago

I can tell you that this is almost certainly not the American government advertising and, like most ads on Mylot, is probably spam.

But I can assure you that being an atheist or a foreigner shouldn't be an issue..


myLot reputation of 98/100. astonysh (1935)   ranked 235 out of 1,016 in usa  2 months ago

Hi,

thanks for the reply.

These adverts look very official, and some would find them attractive. It tends to be my nature to be sceptical of advertising though. From what I have heard the job market is as difficult there as it is here, and you are not just going to walk straight into something.

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10. myLot reputation of 91/100. laglen (3806)   ranked 238 out of 1,016 in usa   2 months ago

I think they should hold off for now. And why indeed. Maybe our economy may stop the dash of illegals... heres hopin!


myLot reputation of 98/100. astonysh (1935)   ranked 235 out of 1,016 in usa  2 months ago

Hi,

thanks for the reply.

Not sure I am that interested actually - it just seems weird at this very difficult time they should be trying to get people from outside the US to come, when there is a massive pool of talented people already there and currently unemployed.

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