Ebay removes anti-choice memorabilia from website

Th will ban anybody who states that that is the purpose. They can't know what reasons people are auctioning items off for if they don't state it.

Ted, this really isn't simply about pro-life or pro-choice memorabilia. You can read more about what was going to be offered in this "fundraiser" here: http://www.kansascity.com... was glorifying people who had committed acts of extreme violence. It even included a manual telling how to make a bomb! I would hope eBay would either allow both or neither pro-choice and pro-life items to be sold on their site and I also would hope they'd ban the memorabilia of ALL killers!

Annie

http://shop.ebay.com/i.ht...

I'm pro-life, & like the overwhelming majority of pro-lifers, I condemn the murder of the abortionist, Tiller--or any other abortion businessman. Murder is murder. Period.

So, in the interest of intellectual honesty & fairness, I went to both the of the links above. In the article first mentioned, eBay states that they won't allow the sale of anything that "glorifies violence." Upon visiting Ted's link, it becomes obvious that their statement is their fig leaf that allows them to remove the auction for the abortionist's murderer. Ted's link shows page after page of products that sensationalize (& thus "glorify") serial killers, all for sale on eBay.

Clearly this IS about a pro-abortion agenda. Ebay has every right to have its agenda, & to keep whomever they wish off their site. I'm just calling them out for the hypocrites that they are.

Maggiepie
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Actually, you're right. Forgive me, I must have been suffering from a caffene deficiency. As much as I disagree with their actions, by the Constitution, they have the right to do it. eBay, I mean. It's kind of stupid, though, don't you think? They take a cut from every sale, so they just put a dent in their profit margin. I wonder what the stock holders have to say about that. I'm glad I don't own any eBay stock.

WB, with what Ebay rakes in every month, these little sales wouldn't have made a dent.

He has a full right to be defended. I'm not arguing that at all. I'm just glad that ebay stuck to it TOS.

Agreed, but you know there are those who think otherwise.

pro forced pregnancy? I refuse to call them pro life, because things like this show that they're not.

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I wouldn't even say pro fetus. It's not about the fetus at all, it's about punishing and hurting women.

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Bingo to both of you! You don't see the angry crowds outside of abortion clinics offering to take any of these women into their homes. I've never seen anything that actually supports a woman who is faced with an unplanned pregnancy...just a lot of rhetoric about how wrong she is.

Ok, taskr jumped in there before I posted my response so obviously my little "Bingo" belongs to the two responses above his.

As for you, taskr, I get soooo tired of the "inconvenient for the mother" rap. There are MANY situations that women find themselves in that have nothing to do with convenience.

No, Taskr is right. I mean, it's not like women even thought of having abortions before it was made legal. Illegal abortions would be unsafe! So no woman would go to that length because of an "inconvenience". It's not like childbirth is a serious thing that can kill or seriously injusre women, and should be a well though out decision that you should be ready for. Didn't you know that when you give birth you magically get a million dollars to go towards raising it, instead of getting medical bills for the hospital. Oh, how wrong I've been.
Darn that Roe vs. Wade and giving women ideas about bodily autonomy and being able to choose when to start a family.

Um, I'm trying to figure out what kind of pro life you are. Bear with me here.

If you think that abortion should be made illegal you are anti choice.
If you think that abortion should remain legal you're pro choice. Even if you are against getting an abortion for yourself. That's kind of what the whole choice thing is about.

What do you mean when you say "what kind of pro-lifer" someone is? You mean to say there's more than one kind? Please, do inform the rest of us.

I'm pro-life. I support both mother and child. Do you realize that a lot of these women are being forced into having an abortion they don't want, simply because whoever got her pregnant doesn't want the responsibility of being a father? Or perhaps the family of the woman forces her to have an abortion in order to keep their family reputation intact?

It's not enough to keep an unborn baby alive. The mother must be told of other options, such as adoption, and there are many, many places she can go where she will be given what she needs to take care of the baby, i.e., diapers, bottles, clothes, etc. She must be given hope. THAT is what it means to be truly pro-life.

Coder, do you have a source to back up your statement that a lot of women are forced into getting abortions or is that just an opinion? Actually, before the procedure is done the woman meets with a counselor who ensures that this is indeed her decision and is something that she wants. That's basic lawsuit protection.

I'm not trying to get on you about your views but the reality is that the decision to end a pregnancy is more complex than getting help with bottles, diapers and clothes. Every woman who is faced with this decision has her own unique circumstance and her own personal reasons. She knows what her options are and has the right to choose. I have found that the hard core Pro-Lifers are actually Pro-Baby and Anti-Choice because they refuse to have any consideration for the needs of the woman.

That's largely because the woman is an adult who can take care of herself. The child is innocent and defenseless so pro-life people feel it is their need to defend the child. If a woman is struggling with her decision and needs help there are no shortage of pro-life organizations who can help a woman out. Abortion is just an easier, faster way out.

Really, taskr? Are there organizations that will support a pregnant woman until she gives birth and is back on her feet if she can't work? Will they provide her with a home if she's forced to leave where she is because she's pregnant? Will they help with the additional expenses she will face for 18 years?

I am pro-life and I wouldn't ever have an abortion. If my life was in danger I would still let my baby be born. If I was raped I would give birth to my baby and adopt him or her. If my baby was disabled I will still give birth to him or her and keep my baby. I was offered an abortion when I was 36 weeks pregnant due to my son having spina bifida and hydrocephalus. He is now a happy little two and a half year old boy.

Abortion can happen for many different reasons and I think it is sad for the innocent little baby. Sometimes a lady can have an abortion and regret it for the rest of her life. Abortion is legal in my home country and can easily be obtained up to 24 weeks pregnancy. Everyone has their own opinion and I can't tell others what to do. I am pro-life and others may be pro-choice so that is up to them.

To dispel the myth that pro-lifers don't care for the mothers, yes we DO help the mothers! There are countless organizations which support the mother & her baby with food, clothing, job-finding, education & other such needs! You just don't know about them because the pro-abort media don't tell people, & the pro-abort industry is dead set against us, & censor us!

Proof? How's this?

I once put up posters which gently told women that if they had a "problem pregnancy" that they could get help so as to be able to give birth, & detailed some of the many services the organizations provided. These listed the phone numbers & addresses of the various organizations around town. No preaching, no "hate," just an offer of sincere help.

About 20 minutes later I was returning by the path I'd taken & saw that most of the posters had been defaced--usually ripped but all with vicious language scrawled on them in big angry letters--& some were ripped down & left in shreds on the ground.

I put more up. Second verse, same as the first.

This happened a couple more times, even though I tried different locations.

See above for results.

Finally I had an idea. I got a permanent marker which could even write on glass, & made a bunch of copies of the poster, each one increasing in size. I went out & found a window in a nearby building which looked only into a darkened basement. I wanted to be sure no-one in the building would take down my poster just because it blocked views, & further, no-one there was likely to notice it while in the basement. I doubted they'd care even if they did.

I wrote a message directly on the glass, & taped my smallest poster over it. Then I taped the next larger poster over that, & continued 'til the largest poster covered everything. I believe there were about 9 posters.

I left, & returned shortly afterward, just to see what, if anything, had happened.

Every poster had been removed, & even the ink had been scratched, though they couldn't get it off. I almost wish I'd had time to stay & see the face(s) of whomever it was that had surely gone ballistic when they got to my pen's note. It read:

"SO...YOU REALLY DON'T BELIEVE IN FREE SPEECH, DO YOU?"

So yes, there ARE plenty pf folks out here that DO care about both the mothers AND their babies. You'll have to ask yourself why you haven't heard of us....

Maggiepie
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Hey coder, the VFW won't let me have my own membership because I'm not a veteran and I've never fought in a war on foreign soil. Is that discrimination? Oh yeah, it's not because they're a private organization and they have a list of rules...kinda like Ebay.

It is a form of censorship, but of course any private organization can censor content on their own website unless someone calls it discrimination (like they did with eHarmony).