Borderline personality disorder

Jb, that's not BPD that's bi polar....LOL

bunnies get it too


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was just going on the instable moods bit. sadly there isn't an emoticon of a mirror or one for any of the other symptoms.

In order to be truly BPD, you have to blame Irish for your problems and accuse her of something outrageous and untrue...:)

well that wouldn't be bpd because she is responsible for all my problems. in particular the fact that she is always hiding my carrots. suppose she thinks it is funny, pah.

There ya go...textbook paranoid delusion....

A momma bunny and a baby bunny were in the garden. The baby bunny goes to pick a carrot and the momma bunny says, "oh baby, don't eat THAT carrot, it's pithy". The baby bunny says, "Pithy...how do you know it's pithy momma?" That momma bunny says, "Cause I pithed on it!"




See....I'm JUST trying to keep you from the pithy carrots!

oh, and you think it is funny too do you? she has just admitted the terrible things she has been doing to my carrots.

But it's for your own good...

no it is not. it is clearly just for the amusement of irish and friends. it is horrible behaviour.

hee...er...uhm.............

still laughing i see - do you realise that the rabbit will now be after revenge?

and it has been taken - i have hidden your chocolates.

OH thank you I'm supposed to be laying off ALL caffiene! You're such a dear!

and i have put proplus in your drinking water.

Excellent advice as usual Red.....

My experience is when BPD is accompanied by persecution delusions and/or narcissism it's nearly impossible for the sufferer to make a distinction regarding whom to trust.

My therapist thinks BPD is a cop out diagnosis. Because it's so difficult to treat many doctors won't treat it at all, and my shrink doesn't believe in giving up on anyone, which is why he's still my shrink after 7 years...

Thanks, for the additional info on BPD.

For many sufferers of BPD this is sadly the case. They really can't see themselves or those around them clearly.....

It's even harder when you are comforting one of those 'outside sources' who honestly is NOT to blame for the BPD person going ballistic but the BPD person CLAIMS it's the 'outside source's' fault!

This is SO hard to deal with, nervewracking, frustrating, I think it is starting to cause ME temporary insanity, or at least a level of stress I am not comfortable with longterm.

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Of course you can have a hug.......

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and here's a cookie....

I'm so sorry . I am feeling sort of depressed/down too, although I'm sure it has nothing to do with why you feel that way. I know I won't feel like this forever but even a day is miserable.

In many cases drugs are over prescribed, but when you're talking about severe disorders like bipolar, medication is crucial. But getting the right kind and dose is key to proper treatment. Most importantly, getting the right diagnosis is the first step. Bi polar is becoming a fast overused diagnosis in kids who aren't responding to ADHD medications and I'm facing a very scary uphill battle with my 9 year old; the importance of getting it right with him weighs so heavily on me; kids aren't just miniature adults and pediatric bipolar is only barely understood and they don't have the long term efficacy studies of the medications to treat it. Kids now are really just guinea pigs and I love my babies too much to take risks with their health and well being....

Oh D, I so understand what you are saying. My youngest was a difficult kid and everyone kept telling me "put him on ridalin, he's ADD etc., etc.," I kept having him tested and he kept coming up NOT ADD, so of course he was labelled bi-polar, borderline this, and borderline that, etc. But my mother's gut told me no, they still hadn't got it right (I thoroughly researched everything they told me) and I refused to put him on any meds at all. Finally after we moved from Ontario to Alberta, a child psychologist had him extensively tested and it turns out he was only ODD (oppositional defiance disorder) and didn't need meds, just a firm routine and he'd pretty much grow out of it. Once we both understood what it was and me how to deal with him when he went 'over the top', life was much better and now he's 22 and has pretty much grown out of it. Kids need to understand as well as adults what is 'wrong' (I chose to say 'different') about them, and then they can become part of the 'cure'. The mind is a powerful thing if the time is taken to educate it and retrain it. My heart is with you on the path you are on with your son.......................

ODD isn't treatable with medication, so good for you for just saying no...


There aren't any medications indicated for 9 year olds with bi polar so I'm thinking that behavioral therapy, TONS AND TONS of patience and understanding and special accommodation with his education might be the answer for now. Plus the Neurofeedback Training.

Having BPD is just as workable as having any other Mental Disorder..I've had it for majority of my life and once you learn about it and have a support system that will be there and be aware which is hte key thing...life can be normal..you just have to look at things and do things a little differently thats all...We arent doomed by any means..

Thank you so much for your input. It really does highlight why BPD is considered one of the more controversial diagnosis--because I think it's different for everyone. My ex had it and his was accompanied by delusional and narcissistic behavior (everyone was against him and nothing was his fault). He also demanded utter and complete loyalty from everyone around him and any attempt to make your own decisions or think for yourself was treated as betrayal. It stemmed from his fear of abandonment I'm guessing.

His inability to take responsibility for his behavior made him impossible to treat holistically so they just gave him medicine for his anxiety and called it a day. He's 50 years old and has still never been properly treated.

I was just talking to my therapist about this the other day. I have adult ADHD and PTSD which makes me prone to anxiety and a little histrionic, and I'm always worried it's going to morph into something more serious...They think my 9 year old might be bi polar and of course bi polar can present with BPD symptoms as well, which is why my therapist doesn't like BPD. He thinks it's a way for doctors to write off difficult patients, which is why it's so important to find a doctor who understands and is willing to do the work and be patient....

and of course bi polar can present with BPD symptoms as well, which is why my therapist doesn't like BPD

Understandable...My shrink was ready to diagnose me wtih Bi Polar but she said my manic episodes werent intense enough or somethign like that...she said I was borderline of being BiPolar but went with Borderline instead.. LOL did that make a lick of sense? hell I think I just confused myself!

wow it seems hard to believe that your ex and I have the same disorder! but I guess like you said different ppl right plus my other issues (PTSD, Severe Depression, Anxiety, blah blah blah LOL) changes the symptoms in each of them if that makes sense..

AM I makng any sense at all LOL holy hell I'll just shut up now...

LOL perfect sense....:)

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I think everyone knows someone...

I think you may be on to something...it's kind of a generic, catch all diagnosis...

Schizo is very very bad, but ironically it's very treatable, where as BPD isn't.

As a psychologist, what is your take on pediatric bi polar disorder?

Bipolar is one chronic disorder of the brain, bipolar patients have extreme changes in mood, thinking, behavior and energy. Already encountered people who have this sickness but not too long, they just asked us to give some exercises and that's it they usually give bipolar patients to Medicine students intern who are specializing Psychiatry. They seems look normal at first, sometimes they are quite, and sometimes it's very hard to get closer. The very sad part for bipolar patients especially children is that there are other mental illness as well. Meaning lots of illness in one kid only and it's very hard to cure and very hard to handle, i already seen a child with bipolar and ADHD at the same time and i really pity him. Bipolar disorder are dangerous like other mental illness, cause the possibility of hurting others and their self is high. Bipolar treatment includes medication, psychotherapy, treatment of coexisting illness, good nutrition, stress reduction and regular sleeping schedules.

Oh by the, two thumbs up for you, for putting up this interesting and very helping topic.