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now i am in the mood of argumentation.......... email this discussion to a friend?

myLot reputation of 84/100. reeyan (569)   ranked 2,466 out of 32,388 in mylot.com4 weeks ago

BE POSITIVE BEFORE I GO NEGATIVE...........

.....This is the best line I have ever heard that orator placed before his opponent.


The second best is......

DON'T TENDER ADVICE....PRESERVE IT FOR YOU. IT IS MORE NEEDED TO YOU THAN WHOM YOU WANT TO OFFER.

EVERY THING IS FAIR IN LOVE AND WAR. BUT SELF RESTRICTION IS NEEDED IN ARGUMENTATION. THINK TWICE BEFORE YOU SAY. BECAUSE ONCE YOU THROW THE STONE YOU CAN NEVER KEEP BACK THAT.

I think many of you may not be agree with me. So I titled the discussion as I am in the mood of argumentation now. Your argumentation is solicited. You are free to express as you like.

 
 
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eshaan (2468) response was accepted on 11/22/2009.
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tags:  arguments, advice, debate, decision, self
 
1. myLot reputation of 98/100. dragon54u (9474)   ranked 213 out of 32,388 in mylot.com   4 weeks ago

It took me a very long time to learn to control my tongue and not blurt out everything that I'm thinking. You are right, you can't take back words once they are said and although someone may forgive you, they can never truly forget.


myLot reputation of 84/100. reeyan (569)   ranked 2,466 out of 32,388 in mylot.com  4 weeks ago

Hi dragon54u

Time is the best teacher to all. What we can't learn from anyone that is taught us by the time. Time is the teacher...time is the killer too.

And about on the throwing....one popular filmy dialogue here I want to serve here.

HE SHOULD NOT THROW STONE TO OTHERS CASTLE....WHO LIVE IN CRYSTAL (MADE UP OF GLASS) CASTLE.


myLot reputation of 98/100. dragon54u (9474)   ranked 213 out of 32,388 in mylot.com  4 weeks ago

Ha! lol
In my country, we say that people in glass houses should not throw stones.

I wish I had not thought myself so wise when I was younger, I would have learned so much more!


myLot reputation of 84/100. reeyan (569)   ranked 2,466 out of 32,388 in mylot.com  4 weeks ago









Hi thank you. Time is the best teacher. It is said. So we should be tankful to the time and be aware to it that it can't betray us. Because as well as it is said that time is the killer to. Who silently has been killing us from the day beginning.

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2. myLot reputation of 98/100. rjvb26 (373)   ranked 1,320 out of 32,388 in mylot.com   4 weeks ago

I agree with you man! I will just add something. Positive - Negative - Positive, that's how i throw, i call it the sandwich technique. You are also correct, do not advice, cause advice can ruin everything specially if the decision made on that advice is not that effective. NO can control you but only you. No have a right to decide for you cause it is you. If someone decides for you, then it is not you it's now them. Nice post!


myLot reputation of 84/100. reeyan (569)   ranked 2,466 out of 32,388 in mylot.com  4 weeks ago

Hi rjvb26

Thank you. In argumentation it is not considered that what is positive or what other is negative. What I think is positive for me and contrary to me is looked me like negative. So it is very hard to determined it. And is some one say nothing against you then what is the value of argumentation. So any obligation that followed by logical analysis is considered positive in argumentation. I may be against your thought too. So base less abuse and personal attract in irritation is considered as negative in argumentation.


myLot reputation of 84/100. reeyan (569)   ranked 2,466 out of 32,388 in mylot.com  4 weeks ago

Substantial to the first line.

****In argumentation positive negative are considered not on the contradiction but on the value and the intention of the orator. You may be against to any one but you can't be jealous or can't allowed enmity.Even the friendly attitude too not treated as good in argumentation. Friendliness lead us to be partial that is not good for free discussion. Impartiality must need to observe in argumentation.

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3. holololita (25)   ranked 5,443 out of 32,388 in mylot.com   4 weeks ago

i agree with you but i dont at the same time because:
if you have just hurt someone that person wont easily forget it and it can hurt you too,but, in the other hand i think an apologize wont change the past but it can change the present:) so i think that everyone of us has to learn how to control ourselves and if you let go the words or actions you need to apologize.thanks for letting me think of it.


myLot reputation of 84/100. reeyan (569)   ranked 2,466 out of 32,388 in mylot.com  4 weeks ago

Hi holololita

If you have to mind it that your word hart other then how you put your point in discussion. Contradictory thinking may hart other. If we are made some statement to please other then it turn to flattering than an debate or argumentation.

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4. myLot reputation of 85/100. Hatley (20440)   ranked 1,598 out of 32,388 in mylot.com   4 weeks ago

reeyan yes words once spoken cannot be undone, they can
hurt worse than a physical beating. a physical wound will
heal but a mental or emotional wound will stay and stay.
think first before speaking or else you may find yourself'on the ground with one foot in your silly mouth. he helollollol


myLot reputation of 84/100. reeyan (569)   ranked 2,466 out of 32,388 in mylot.com  4 weeks ago





Hi when I throw a ball to the wall I know it well that the ball must return to my face. So I keep my hand be alerted to save stork otherwise it must break my teeth.

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5. myLot reputation of 81/100. michaeldadona (3801)   ranked 2,765 out of 32,388 in mylot.com   4 weeks ago

In my philosophical life I dislike (not hate) using other philosophers' sayings because I cannot be them or anybody else. Similarly, they cannot be me. I must use my true profound self-nature-nurture learning in producing my own genuine sayings in getting the benefits to my spiritual and physical life.

On internet, I wrote quite a number of monologue or soliloquy type of writing by using my own sayings. If you search on internet by using this search keyword for 'Once Spoken Never Broken', absolutely, you'll find it. I have registered on internet all of these of my genuine sayings;

1. "A Say A Practice" - Michael Dadona.
2. "A Secrecy A Legacy" - Michael Dadona.
3. "Once Spoken Never Broken" - Michael Dadona.
4. "Live As A King Death As A Ching" - Michael Dadona.
5. "Work hard is a must, work smart is a necessity, and work diligently is a priority." - Michael Dadona

I am on my way to create my 'one country one blog' and I have published India blog which I named it as "IndiaBhoomi" although I am an American living as an expatriate in other country.


myLot reputation of 84/100. reeyan (569)   ranked 2,466 out of 32,388 in mylot.com  4 weeks ago

Hi michaeldadona
Very very interesting respond you have posted here. My first line on the word dislike....Life never run on the of our liking and disliking.
If if not done any wrong in the interpretation ---I think you are intending you substance of this responds towards the haring player those plays for other team. Here I have just write three line . I nowhere said that where from that is quoted. Really don't know who said and and when said or ever any one said so. But I think someone perhaps said so. This lines just come out of my mind and I place here. I am really sorry that I can't even justify the reason of you disliking. Anything we ever express form our line is not our own. We come to the world with a big zero. Leaving here some days like a hero and again leave the world like a big zero. Then what is our own??? Its great question that can't be answered. Perhaps no one ever can answer the question what is our own. So please don't say me that I am borrowing some thing from somewhere. Every thing we have like the light of the moon. If sun exist moon is lighten ...thus the life is everything is...
What Galileo said.. if we say some thing other than that is it be right.
So please try to understand me I am helpless something I must have to say though it is said earlier. Other what will I try to say no one would able to understand.


myLot reputation of 84/100. reeyan (569)   ranked 2,466 out of 32,388 in mylot.com  4 weeks ago

*** Otherwise what I say.....****


myLot reputation of 81/100. michaeldadona (3801)   ranked 2,765 out of 32,388 in mylot.com  4 weeks ago

Don't worry about that and that is the meaning of an open discussion, where everybody has a chance (not necessarily rights) to produce their opinion. Similarly in reality, when we are in angry it doesn't mean that we have the rights to say low quality of moral wordings. Much better handle, manage, and control our anger. Thing which is beneficial for us to keep on continue living peacefully.


myLot reputation of 84/100. reeyan (569)   ranked 2,466 out of 32,388 in mylot.com  4 weeks ago

Hi michaeldadona


I an not dissatisfied with whatever you have said. But feel strange where you find my anger. Discussion is the rally of the different thought. No place there for any wrong. I am very must aware that whether any wrong done by me. So there must be some thing wrong in my wording that make you feel that I am angry. I will take caution here after.

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6. myLot reputation of 100/100. paula27661 (5170)   ranked 2,874 out of 32,388 in mylot.com   4 weeks ago

I read a book once called “The Power Of The Spoken Word” by Florence Scovell Shinn. In the book the author talks about the fact that everything we say has consequences. I grew up with a mother whose tongue was sharper than the biggest knife and she would cut me very deep and I still bear the scars today. It pays to think before we speak because as you say words can hurt and they cannot be taken back, ever.


myLot reputation of 84/100. reeyan (569)   ranked 2,466 out of 32,388 in mylot.com  4 weeks ago

Hi paula27661


At the outset I offer my heartfelt thanks honor and well to you. I have noted the book The Power Of The Spoken Word you sited here. I will be happy if I ever can read that book.

As you know the power of word from your mother, I am sure that you are now must benefited by that now. As I believe that the bitter taste that we get in early age turn to sweet in the later life.

I am agree with your last line that word that spoken never be taken back. So we should be cautious to throw the word.

Thank for your suggestive and meaningful response. I pray god ( thought I have no believe on God)that our friendship last long.

Thanks

Happy myloting.

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7. myLot reputation of 92/100. eshaan (2468)   ranked 2,021 out of 32,388 in mylot.com   3 weeks ago

yes..the sayings are good..so no argument..but i have to argue on one point with you...recently i read in one of your discussions that you dont know english and you cant express your views and you should quit...but seeing ...sorry reading your discussions i dont feel that you should go..atleast you should enjoy till first payment...and when u get good ratings...you will yourself not like to go from here happy


myLot reputation of 84/100. reeyan (569)   ranked 2,466 out of 32,388 in mylot.com  3 weeks ago

Hi eshaan

Argumentation is the basic of all discussion. But I feel that in mylot the word argue is quite less familiar. People think that argumentation can effect the environment of discussion. And I feel that people are more interested in fun and friendly circumstances. But if you justify discussion with an impartial view, you will find that some time you have put more interest on logic and argue in a discussion to establish the value and real opinion. I find little contradiction on this point with other .

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8. myLot reputation of 84/100. vijiboopathy (441)   ranked 3,321 out of 32,388 in mylot.com   3 weeks ago

I would agree your both thoughts about the advice and argue. It is a very valuable information and I would take it in to my life. It impressed me very much. More over I would argue to the persons when they are wrong and they are saying them to be correct. Mostly I argue with my friends and not to other ones.
Really I appreciate these words. Thanks for sharing.


myLot reputation of 84/100. reeyan (569)   ranked 2,466 out of 32,388 in mylot.com  2 weeks ago

Hi vijiboopathy

Thanks for your response. These is the best weapon of destruction to the insulting nature and self righteous nature of the opponent in the battle field of debate. Try this you will be benefited. But it is an advice. And I never argue with them who have no respect to the argument and reasons.


Thanks.


myLot reputation of 84/100. vijiboopathy (441)   ranked 3,321 out of 32,388 in mylot.com  2 weeks ago

I am unable to understand your words correctly. Please explain me.


myLot reputation of 84/100. reeyan (569)   ranked 2,466 out of 32,388 in mylot.com  3 days ago

If you firm in you point it is self righteousness. It can't be termed as insult.

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