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myLot reputation of 44/100. murderistic (1042)   ranked 669 out of 9,723 in religion2 months ago

One of the most profound teachings of Jesus:
Matthew 5:43-48"You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
I honestly think that as an American, I've truely learned how to love our (as in the USA's) enemies. I've learned to understand conflict from the "enemies" point of view, and have even come to realize that many of our allies are no better than our enemies. I've made friendships with, worked with, and gone to church with the marginalized in our society: homeless, addicts, mentally ill, mentally disabled, transgender... and I have no problem loving my neighbors of the Anabaptist faith. But I've come to realize that I am seriously struggling with actually loving my neighbors in the US. I have serious issues with the ways that Christians are interpreting the words of Jesus and am sick and tired of democrat vs. republican politics. So I find it kind of funny that although I have no problem loving my enemies, it has become so hard to love my neighbors! If you do pray, I ask for your prayers that I will come to understand the hearts of my neighbors and be able to relate to their issues better.

So my question is - how easy is it for you to love your enemies (as in, enemies of your country or ethnic group)? How easy is it for you to love your neighbors? What do you think about this Bible verse... do you think that if we really loved our neighbors, we would go to war against them? I feel that when God said to love your enemies, He probably meant not to kill them.

 
 
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1. myLot reputation of 47/100. Gordano (258)   ranked 786 out of 9,723 in religion   2 months ago

Indeed, This is one of the most profound teachings of Jesus, He commanded us to love our enemies, But regarding this verse, I have a Simple Question: Is there any difference between our our enemies and His enemies? Because i notice that Jesus in Luke 19:27 also said:

But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

I don't know if there is Difference between our enemies and His enemies, Or do you Think This Verse interlined into the Pure Teachings of Jesus or What?

What is Your thoughts?


myLot reputation of 44/100. murderistic (1042)   ranked 669 out of 9,723 in religion  2 months ago

That verse is a parable of Jesus. Jesus is telling a story, and the man who said that line in the story was not Jesus, but a king who represents Jesus in the story. The parable is told for the people who were expecting the Kingdom of God to come at once. Jesus uses the idea of a King going to another country and giving His servants instructions to take what he has given them and to multiply it. So we see that this is representing the resurrection and the second coming, and what we are to do (be productive by following His teachings) while our King, Jesus, is gone until He returns again at the end times. The King in the parable is referring to money, but Jesus relates it to following His teachings. The enemies of the King are the unbelievers, what you would call infidels. "Kill them" is referring to to the second coming and the punishment that will be given to the unbelievers, eternal death. God still loves His enemies because they are still His children created in His image, but that does not mean that they deserve Heaven. He will forgive anyone who comes to Him for repentence. All you need to do to have eternal life is believe.


myLot reputation of 88/100. keep_onwatch (1623)   ranked 1,692 out of 9,723 in religion  4 weeks ago

Gordano, Love your enemies was a commandment to us, as we have to love each other no matter how the other person is due to the simple reason-" God is not partial and just as he gave life to you and me, he created every other human being". Then coming to the words Jesus said about his enemies, Jesus was not talking about any other human, being his enemy, but Satan and his demons. Its a promise that Christ is going to destroy Satan and his powers and bring them to ruin, which would be an end to all wickedness. Yes, Satan is our enemy also as we follow Christ, but can we? as mere humans defeat such an evil supernatural being? So, let us do what's in our hands and leave the rest to God. Anyways, its easy to hate a person whom is your enemy, but loving that enemy takes courage.

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2. myLot reputation of 83/100. Godmother (307)   ranked 8,439 out of 9,723 in religion   2 months ago

When Jesus gave the instructions to love your neighbor, He gave the parable of the good Samaritan. So loving them is enough by helping them in times of trouble. God loves all humankind because they are His creation, and He works hard to give them every little bit of chance of repentance (even 5 minutes before your death, would be enough to save them). What He hates are their sin, their conducts, their attitude and most all their hypocrisy (you can read of all this in the old testament, and letters from Paul). But yes, you have to defend your country if it is the right thing to do. Didn't He commanded Israel to war all their enemies when the were journeying through to Canaan, and many other times during the age of Judges and Kings? But the point is that the instructions to war were given directly by God, through the prophets. At that time the leaders do have intimate relationship with Him and fears Him? What about our leaders nowadays? Do they listen to God or act by their ego? Herein lies the answer whether it was alright to war and kill or not.


myLot reputation of 44/100. murderistic (1042)   ranked 669 out of 9,723 in religion  2 months ago

Yes, God did command war before Jesus. But that was before Jesus taught us to love our enemies... so that's not exactly relevant, is it? The Jews at the time were expecting a political leader as a Messiah who would win back the state of Israel, and yet Jesus was not concerned with political boundaries. He was concerned for the entire world.

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3. myLot reputation of 98/100. jonjee0203 (1813)   ranked 5,184 out of 9,723 in religion   2 months ago

This Biblical verse is fascinating. To my mind, only one man has done that. He is our Lord Jesus! Only he can allow his left cheek to be struck after his right cheek. Only he can forgive and forget. Only he can love his enemies,saying for they do not know what they are doing. So, he forgave them. Can we ever be close to to actions of the Lord. we may want to be. But it takes a stoic person to withstand all those 'sins' of the neigbours to be able to forgive them. Almost all people cannot do that. It is really in the image of our Lord if we can succeed!

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4. myLot reputation of 84/100. EvanHunter (1581)   ranked 177 out of 9,723 in religion   2 months ago

I try not to hate anyone, I have been pretty upset over those who I have felt done specific wrong to me, that's where I have had a hard time. As far as hating someone because of politics, ethnicity or because the government says so, I think I have come to realize that our politicians are probably our own worst enemies at times. Anyone can say they are Christian but walking the walk is different than talking it, wolves have always been among the flock.

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5. myLot reputation of 97/100. Pose123 (5839)   ranked 45 out of 9,723 in religion   2 months ago

Hi murderistic, Thank you for a very interesting discussion and you make an excellent point. I too think a lot about that quote and indeed all of Jesus's teachings in the sermon on the mount. I feel that there are no better teachings to be found anywhere. I often think that we pay so little attention to these words. Perhaps, all churches should make it a project that every service for the next year be nothing but the reading of the sermon on the mount, and that they encourage all their followers to read and meditate on it every day. I'm certain that if we truly followed the teachings of Jesus, there would be not only no war, but also no one dying from hunger and no one homeless. Blessings.


myLot reputation of 44/100. murderistic (1042)   ranked 669 out of 9,723 in religion  2 months ago

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6. myLot reputation of 53/100. bestboy19 (1401)   ranked 2,068 out of 9,723 in religion   2 months ago

"I've learned to understand conflict from the "enemies" point of view, and have even come to realize that many of our allies are no better than our enemies.But I've come to realize that I am seriously struggling with actually loving my neighbors in the US. So I find it kind of funny that although I have no problem loving my enemies, it has become so hard to love my neighbors!" If you can love your enemies, who you say, are no better than your allies, you should apply the same method you used to understand your enemies, to your allies.

I take a Bible study class taught by a professor from The School of Divinity at the University of the South at Swanee. She has a doctorate in Old Testament Hebrew, speaks and reads it. She says love doesn't mean love as we know it, but rather, "to be loyal." I don't have a problem with that for my neighbors, but I have a hard time getting my mind around it for my enemies. The example of the Samaritan helping someone in need, who just happened to be his enemy, and Jesus teaching in Matthew 5: 41, "And if anyone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles," is a help in appreciating the loyal concept. By going the extra mile, not because you have to, but because you choose to, shows you in a different light. It is an act of kindness towards you enemy, and gives you the opportunity to share your faith with him.

As an individual, I have no problem helping neighbor or enemy alike. I don't really know of anyone I consider an enemy. As far as our nation goes, we have every right to defend ourselves from our enemies, but we have also been very good at restoring them afterwards. We are also very good at sending aid to anyone after a disaster. I think we, as a nation, have been loyal to neighbor and enemy alike.

To finish, I am a praying person and will pray that you receive wisdom and understand from God.


myLot reputation of 44/100. murderistic (1042)   ranked 669 out of 9,723 in religion  2 months ago

Thank you for your response and your prayers. My only critique of your response is that it seems your loyalty to your country would have to come before your loyalty to Christ to think that we have a right to defend ourselves against our enemies. As a nation, this may be true, and we certainly can't expect nations to allow themselves to be attacked without defense. But as Christians, shouldn't our loyalty to Christ be above our loyalty to our nations? And don't you think there are ways that fit within scripture that will add to the security of our nations? Jesus was a peacemaker, and His strategy was profound... shock your enemies with love.

 
7. myLot reputation of 63/100. greatsasuke (277)   ranked 2,908 out of 9,723 in religion   2 months ago

This is a great discussion. I think loving your neighbors can translate into loving your fellow human being, be they your friends or enemies. It is easy to say, but hard to do. A person must have a great deal of mental purity to follow this teaching correctly, but if done I think its rewards can be had now in this very life. Universal love is what Jesus taught and what we need nowadays. We are all sharing the same planet, so we are all neighbors. It is our personal desires, which makes us enemies sometimes. That is why you see monks of all different religious backgrounds work on controlling and abandoning their personal desires. Let me just post this prayer of ST. Francis, which can articulate what I am trying to say, better than I can.

Lord make me an instrument of your peace
Where there is hatred let me sow love
Where there is injury, pardon
Where there is doubt, faith
Where there is despair, hope
Where there is darkness, light
And where there is sadness, joy

O Divine Master,
Grant that I may not so much seek to be consoled, as to console
To be understood, as to understand
To be loved, as to love
For it is in giving that we receive
It is in pardoning, that we are pardoned
And it is in dying, that we are born to Eternal Life.
Amen.


myLot reputation of 44/100. murderistic (1042)   ranked 669 out of 9,723 in religion  2 months ago

Thank you for your response and for your prayer from St. Francis... a man who lived out the teachings of Christ in a way that most of us couldn't imagine.

 
8. Ellywood (8)   2 months ago

and look what happen to him.


myLot reputation of 44/100. murderistic (1042)   ranked 669 out of 9,723 in religion  2 months ago

Yeah, look what happened to Him... He is living eternally in Heaven on the right hand of God.

 
9. petertam52 (8)   2 months ago

Since GOD is infinite glory, we should have no prooblems trusting HIM to punish wrong doers, including me, myself, or the ones we do not fell comfortable about. Thus the best strategy here is to love everone, but secure our own safety from harms from anywhere, including thy neighbor, friends, co-worker, etc. and leave the punishment of wrong doers to GOD. He probably can do a much better job in punishing them than we do!

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myLot reputation of 44/100. murderistic (1042)   ranked 669 out of 9,723 in religion  2 months ago

I agree completely. Putting life and death in our own hands, even risking someone's life through violence, is like saying to God that we don't trust His judgement.

 
10. myLot reputation of 72/100. tundeemma (814)   ranked 6,546 out of 9,723 in religion   2 months ago

it is very hard for most people to love their neighbours these days and in most cases people do not take interest in the affairs of their neighbours again and all they do is establish a competition which they often believe they can be above all others, if we can't love our neighbours, how can we love our enemies


myLot reputation of 44/100. murderistic (1042)   ranked 669 out of 9,723 in religion  2 months ago

That's very true... the effects of capitalism and individualism have completely wrecked community life. Most people don't even know their neighbors, let alone love them.

 
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