Do you think Santa Claus is Just a symbol of commercialism?

Philippines
December 17, 2009 11:22am CST
Hi Everyone, As Christ believer, I celebrate Christmas to honour the birth of our Savior Jesus Christ. For me, Jesus is the true meaning of Christmas. I don't agree that santa claus should be called as the father christmas because the word "Christmas" stand for "Christ birth" so Christ should be the one. In my opinion, santa is just a folklore created as a symbol of commercialism. And to better endorse the santa thing, some people or let me say commercial companies replaced the "Merry Christmas" greetings to "happy holidays". Isn't it all true?... How bout you guys, what do you think about the santa thing? ... Merry Christmas Everyone.
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@msinfo79 (324)
• United States
18 Dec 09
In my opinion I believe the whole santa claus thing is satans way of leading people away from christ. Notice how santa and satan are not far off. lol, just say no to christmas without christ!
• Mexico
17 Dec 09
Hi krystalheart: I think the smae. The birth of Jesus Christ is the true meaning of Christmas. And as Christian that's what we should celebrate. Santa is the symbol of commercialism, he was actually a Saint, a bishop that gave gifts to the poor but the companies has completely changed the image of this man that was a Christian. Jesus is the center of these days, at least for as the Christians and we should not think about what commercialism want to make us know these days are about. Thanks for starting this discussion. Have a nice day. -Alvaro.
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• Philippines
18 Dec 09
Hi there Alvaro, very well said. I think it is really a right thing for Christians to celebrate Christmas by its true meaning. Christmas time is definitely the time when we commemorate the birth of our Savior. And that is why Christmas is also called as the "Nativity" it depicts the birth of baby Jesus in the Bethlehem with Mary and Joseph together with the shepherds and the three kings. Well we cannot blame the non-believer for believing in santa claus that it should be one of the Christmas time main character, but I hope they do know what we know. I hope they could also somehow realized why it is called "Christmas" time. Merry Christmas.
• United States
18 Dec 09
No. Santa Claus, or in the Catholic religion, Saint Nicholas, is actually a saint who gave toys to children who were poor and had nothing. He is not a product of commercialism, although, given time, people have made Santa Claus a product of commercialism. As I have said before, Christmas is a Pagan holiday adopted by the Christians. Christians took Christmas from the Pagans and made it their own, when it truth it was never really their holiday to begin with. Jesus wasn't even born in December, he was born in or around Summertime, but the Christians will swear up and down that "Christmas is about Jesus Christ", when that really isn't it. Also, I say "Happy Holidays" because I recognize all holidays.
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• United States
18 Dec 09
Well, then it is a Pagan and a Christian holiday then.
• Philippines
18 Dec 09
Hi there... let me add this... Christmas is definitely NOT a pagan holiday. It is Pope Julius I who declares that "Christ Birth" should be celebrated in December 25 as a date to commemorate the birth of baby Jesus in Bethlehem. Some people think that he just got it from the pagan holiday, but it could be a one way that he was trying to convert pagans to Christianity. It is obviously that it is a bit easier to swallow the pagan (who were majority at that time), knowing that their feast will not be taken away from them, right?...
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• Philippines
18 Dec 09
...and it was really a contrast to the pagan festival, for Christmas is celebrated to commemorate the birth of Jesus Christ in Bethlehem, with the Biblical content that the pagans didn't believe off. Merry Christmas Everyone. God bless us all.
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@nautilus33 (1827)
17 Dec 09
NO, he is not. But now days many people use him exactly with this purpose. Santa is the symbol of Christmas, symbol for the kids, who are waiting for their present, because they have been good during the year. Santa is the symbol of the winter- the good old man, who brings joy and happiness to all( not only to children). Santa is that man, for the sake of we believe in the good thing on Christmas. Santa is SANTA!!!!
@snafushe (791)
• Canada
17 Dec 09
I do believe Santa Clause is a symbol of commercialism. As the classic Santa Clause now a days is the color of the coca cola colors, this is not a coincidence. Coke bought out Santa a long time ago. It doesn't have anything to do with Christmas. Father Christmas is a completely different story. I believe Santa Clause was just a made up character as a way of helping parents to get their children to behave, "He sees you when you're sleeping, he knows when you're awake." Also he was a way for different companies to make millions every year from parents trying to fulfill their children's wish lists.
• Philippines
18 Dec 09
Hi there, and that is true for me too. The santa thing is really a symbol of commercialism and distract people from the true essence of Christmas. For me, Christmas is not just about material gifts, but rather about the true meaning of sharing and giving. That in giving, "it is only in the heart that one can see, what is essential is invisible to the eye". Let us not focus our selves to material things on earth when celebrating Christmas, instead lets celebrate Christmas to commemorate the birth of baby Jesus in Bethlehem. The Nativity scene really shows how humble is our King and how God the Father love us selflessly. Merry Christmas.
@snafushe (791)
• Canada
18 Dec 09
I am glad we both share the same out look on what Christmas means. Merry Christmas to you too :)
17 Dec 09
I agree. I even think Christmas should be moved away from the pagan festival and to a time of the year when historians think Christ might actually have been born. Mind you Santa is supposed to partly have some kind of connection with St Nicholas isn't he? Or was that just something made up to co-opt pagan traditions too, in the same way that Santa is now the spirit of the coca-cola company?
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@ElicBxn (64169)
• United States
18 Dec 09
"Santa Claus" is Anglicized German/Dutch for Saint Nicholas - a very old saint in the Christian churches. I believe his holy day is like December 6th. He was a Bishop known for his charity - including giving money, in secret, for a dowry for some poor girls in his area as a gift for the Nativity - hence the gift giving tradition of St. Nicholas bring gifts. Christmas doesn't mean "Christ birth" it means "Christ MASS" as in the service in the Orthodox and Catholic churches. It is also called the Nativity - that does mean birth. So, get it right
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• Philippines
18 Dec 09
Hi there... Yes it is that Christmas is also called Nativity - that does mean birth. Birth of who?... of course of Jesus Christ and not just anyone else like santa. I hope you know the "Nativity scene", it shows the birth of baby Jesus. Then in short Christmas or what you called Nativity is the celebration of Christ Birth. Hope you get that point. Merry Christmas.
@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
17 Dec 09
To me Santa is just a fun thing for children, nothing more.
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• Mexico
17 Dec 09
Hi dawald: Yeah, as long as Santa don't affect Christian values of Christmas and it actually should not affect them if parents make their role on their children education. There's nothing wrong on Santa, it's just a fictional character. Thanks for your answer. Have a nice day. -Alvaro.
17 Dec 09
Well to be fair theres also the side that it can end up being very much not fun for children. Yes you can say that it's good to get children used to the idea of being lied to and humiliated quite early on and to not respect authority figures too much but I think that children that young aren't really able to deal with those ideas too well.
@jambi462 (4576)
• United States
18 Dec 09
I definitely believe that Santa Claus is a symbol of commercialism. He's the one that brings all the toys and goodies to the children where as Jesus is the one that helps to bring us together I believe. I think that's what we should be focusing on more is spending time with our families and friends but I know that we all feel bad if we can't get certain people gifts.
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• Philippines
18 Dec 09
...the santa claus thing really distract people from the true essence of the Christmas celebration. That Christmas is the time of year when love ones are there to celebrate with you being Christ the center of everything. Lets wish that we could bring anyone more than a gift from the store, and that is love... peace... and joy. Merry Christmas.
@hagirl (1295)
• United States
19 Dec 09
My family believes the same way, but we do exchange gifts mostly to the children in the family..... I buy for all my nieces and nephews but not my sisters ... money is tight and we all agree that christmas is for the children...... We do go to the Christmas program which is all about the birth of Jesus and the act of giving. We also have a Christmas message the Sunday before Christmas and if Christmas is on a Sunday we usually have a great message and a socializing time with everyone at church with a dinner following afterwards.
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• Philippines
19 Dec 09
Hi there, and that is a joyful and glorious way of celebrating Christmas. Hope that others will also know how to celebrate Christmas like your family. I am so glad that your family observe the real meaning of Christmas celebration, that it is not all about the material things on earth but rather about the commemoration of Christ birth. Merry Christmas and God bless.
@codris (781)
• Italy
17 Dec 09
sure, santa claus was invented by coca cola company, have you ever noticed the colors? white,red...it was created by coca cola for commercials, and now is the symbol of christmas, a commercial fest. The true meaning of christmas is now lost. If you ask to a child "what's the true meaning of christmas?" he'll not respond "it's the jesus birthday" but "It's the day when santa put our presents under the christmas tree" look: santa, invented by coca cola, christmas tree, invented by coca cola, Presents: something bought in a shop.
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• Philippines
18 Dec 09
Hi there, wow... nice idea. Christmas is really a celebration to commemorate the birth of our Savior Jesus Christ. People must realized that the word "Christmas" also means "Nativity" - that it depicts the birth of baby Jesus in Bethlehem and not a birth of santa claus. I don't think it is a good idea to call santa as the father christmas because he is not the main reason why we celebrate Christmas. Santa is really a symbol of commercialism especially in this time of year.
@olisaur (1922)
• United States
17 Dec 09
I think Santa Claus began as a symbol of giving...but now it seems like he's all about toys and spoiling children by giving them what they want. So yes, I guess Santa is now a symbol of consumerism and commercialism. :/
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• Philippines
18 Dec 09
Hi... yes it is before they created the santa thing to be a symbol of gift giving especially in Christmas time, but even before the idea of santa is all about commercialism to distract people from the true essence of Christmas and encourage parents to give gifts to their children while pretending to be santa claus.
@ruchimom (280)
• Australia
19 Dec 09
Hi Krystalheart I TOTALLY agree with you.I think the whole meaning of Christmas had gone and Santa has taken over.People are excited only to get presents, It is indeed a sad state of affairs...
• Philippines
19 Dec 09
Hi there, Merry Christmas. It is quite true that the real essence of Christmas has been taken for granted nowadays. The Christmas celebration became commercialized due to the santa claus endorsement. Yes it is, that santa thing is a symbol of commercialism. I don't want to hurt anybody, this is only my own opinion. May you have a blessed Christmas. Merry Christmas once again. God bless.
• United States
18 Dec 09
I have to agree on the aspect that Christmas has become too commercialized. But of course the business need this to up their sales. I believe that people have forgotton the true meaning of Christmas.
• Philippines
18 Dec 09
Hi there, Christmas somehow become too commercialized because of the santa thing. the santa claus image distract people from the true meaning of Christmas. Christmas should be about the commemoration of Christ Birth, it should depict the Nativity scene, and show people that in giving it is not the material thing that counts but the heart of the giver itself. The santa image became a big endorser for many companies to earn millions especially in this time of the year. Merry Christmas.
@GardenGerty (169406)
• United States
18 Dec 09
I know that modern society has commercialized Santa Claus, but St. Nicholas/Santa Claus, albeit folklore or legend, was a character that embodied unselfishness and love for fellow man. He represented generosity and giving. Yes, Christmas is the day we celebrate Christ's Birth. It is too bad that this spirit has become the gimme, gimme spirit.
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@cher913 (25781)
• Canada
17 Dec 09
to a certain extent. the myth of sants has been fueled by companies that are trying to make a buck this season but the original santa (as we know him today) was first introduced by coca cola (during the 20's i think). as christians, hubby and i have always told our kids that they get their presents from people that love and care about them, not from some impersonal santa.
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• Philippines
18 Dec 09
Hi there, very said. It is really best to tell children that Christmas especially gift giving is not all about any santa thing. Children must realized from the start that the presents came from the one who love and care for them and not just any folklore santa. Merry Christmas.
• Philippines
18 Dec 09
Sta. Clause is just created by whom ever he is hahahaha. the name is associated with St.Nicholas. Correct me if I am wrong on this. Santa Clause is for kids but the true meaning of Christmas is the birth of Jesus Christ. When I was young I long for him to see at our window and will give our gifts, but I never see them in person because Santa Clause is just invented. Santa Clause is for kids, they are the hope of kids during Christmas because parents and grandparents hide their identity in him. Yes I agree is just a symbol of commercialism, because Sta. Clause was used in some movies. I guess in times like this we can never dettached Sta. Clause because he have been a part of every holidays. But we have to do not forget the real meaning of Christmas, Jesus christ birth.
@celticeagle (189792)
• Boise, Idaho
18 Dec 09
That was the original of it all. Christmas being the birthday of the christ child that is. But now days it certainly seems like commercialism has taken the hat and run away with it. Seems true indeed. I think it is up to grown ups to make the Christmas myths and the realism of it something our children can experience in an appropriate manner.
@cupkitties (7421)
• United States
17 Dec 09
Supposedly Santa was actually a real man who lived many years ago that would go about handing out gifts to the poor children of his home land. Being that he was suppose to be a christian man I don't think he would have approved of his God status at all. To me this day is about the birth of Jesus and for those who are christian it should be treated as such. Not this Santa Claus, I want gifts, gimme gimme. We should also have a birthday cake and follow the example of giving rather than receiving. But thats just me
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• Philippines
18 Dec 09
Hi... santa shouldn't be the center of the Christmas celebration either he shouldn't be called as father christmas. For Christmas is not celebrated because of sanat, but it is celebrated to commemorate the birth of baby Jesus Christ in Bethlehem. For me, if people especially parents want to teach their children about gift giving and sharing, they should not tell their kids that santa is the one who gave those gifts, but rather tell their children that the God above who loves us dearly and selflessly gave His only son to save us from our sin. That the greatest gift on earth cannot be seen by the eye, but it is in the heart of the giver. Merry Christmas.
@mkings (289)
• Germany
17 Dec 09
You are right Christmas goes to the father who is Jesus and that was there day which He was born.Actually I do not believe in anything as Santa.So happy Christmas to yoou in advance
• Philippines
18 Dec 09
Hi mkings, it is all true for me that Christmas is celebrated to commemorate the birth of our Savior Jesus Christ, and that is why Christmas is also called as the "Nativity", which depicts the birth of baby Jesus in Bethlehem. In my opinion, the santa claus distract people especially the children about the true meaning of the Christmas celebration for the benefit of commercialism. Well, I don't want to hurt those who believe in santa, but I think santa is just a symbol of commercialism for this season.