Guidelines.See Dale read.See Sue Read. See Bob laugh and say, no way. thats sill

@Hatley (163772)
Garden Grove, California
December 29, 2009 5:01pm CST
As often happens, I read a great discussion which triggered my own. Iagree people should be warned and told why their discussion was deleted. But in that same vein, should not mylot admins insist more strongly that each newcomer must read the guidelines and rules before starting to make discussions. then prove by some method that he or she understands the guidelines and rules. I have seen some newcomers even brag they never had read the guidelines'and rules. would that not be the very first step towards knowing how to mylot? Your own take please.
15 people like this
33 responses
@mysdianait (66005)
• Italy
30 Dec 09
Those that DO read them fo on to become happy Lotters so that should be proof enough that they are worth reading and that it pays to read them. A friend has suggested a long time ago that there be some sort of quiz on joining that they should pass before they can post. That did not go down too well wirh Admin Alice though I think there should be a limit of at least 100 before theycan start posting their own discussions. That would mean that they would have to learn a bbit about whhat goes on before bursting onto the boards and some of the crappy discussions might not be posted any more. Those that don't want to read but think they will earn by posting a discussion asking questions that are already in the FAQs are taking the lazy way out and, not only do they not earn anything, but neither do all those who answer their questions because the discussions get deleted
2 people like this
@mysdianait (66005)
• Italy
30 Dec 09
AA was not very keen on that suggestion I think if she was on the discussions as much as we are she would probably undertsand our reasons better. You can see what she said at #28 on her last discussion. I have to agree that our Alice is another kettle of fish
2 people like this
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
30 Dec 09
yeah I agree our alice is a lot more fun,wonder what her ideas would be. but maybe the admins alice would go for the limit on the post of 100 before they can start making their own discussions as it would give them time to respond and to read other discussions that are good quality and see what is meant by a quality discussion.
@thezone (9394)
• Ireland
30 Dec 09
I agree with the 100 post limit, that would save a lot of hassle on here. The Alice admin at least took some of my ideas on board in her last discussion. But the other Alice is more fun, you know who I mean
2 people like this
@thezone (9394)
• Ireland
29 Dec 09
Hi Hatley, I agree, everyone on here should read the guidelines and it should be compulsory for everyone. Nothing gets me more ticked off then a member on here that just ignores all the rules even when they have been given some friendly advice.
2 people like this
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
30 Dec 09
Tick box, male/female/not sure spammer/scammer/yes please do you intend to make 10 discussions a day/ 15 a day/ or as many as you possibly can?
1 person likes this
@thezone (9394)
• Ireland
30 Dec 09
Well said But do we expect those spammers to be truthful?
1 person likes this
@TLChimes (4822)
• United States
30 Dec 09
Hi Zone! How ya been? I hate when you try to be nice and help... politely.... then the person acts as if you hit their feet with a hammer....
1 person likes this
@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
31 Dec 09
You are right of course; people should not be allowed here until they have read all the guidelines. I was guilty of not reading them when I first joined and discovered why one of my discussions was deleted by doing just that and learning where I made the mistake. Some have suggested some kind of quiz to check if the rules have been read and that may be a good idea, although the answers may be available on the Net before long and cheating can be easy unless the questionwere regularly changed...Not sure on that one...
2 people like this
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
31 Dec 09
hi paula there so many things I had not thought about regarding a quiz, one of which may be they can do it 'over and over til they get it right a nd still not' ever really read any of the information. so there are probably better ways of going about it.
@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
29 Dec 09
Your discussion title reminds me of the first readers back in the day...see Jane run, see Diick run, run Jane run lol. Yes, a little test to prove one has read the rules would be great before a person was allowed to join the site! Karen Wow, when I went to post this, I discovered that the word "Diick," when properly spelled, is against mylot rules lol. Learn something new every day.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
29 Dec 09
spotted di9ck is a favourite English pudding.
2 people like this
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
30 Dec 09
hi Karen thats exactly what I started out with and I typed in Dic# and got the red lines do it over you used a naughty word so I just put in Dale instead. he he. imagine my surprise last year at New Years when I was responding to a mylotter here and told her I was watching the Di@k Clark show and had used the nickname and was told you used a prohibited word. And I am going thats just the first name of a nationally known star for goodness sakes.
1 person likes this
@Sandra1952 (6047)
• Spain
30 Dec 09
With you 100% on that, Hatley. I've often advocated a test before people are let loose on the boards. I've given up going in and advising people, because they just don't take any notice, and I'd rather be responding to someone like you who gives us something to get our teeth into than wasting my time with one of the 'How can I earn lots of money on here?' brigade.
2 people like this
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
31 Dec 09
hi sandra yes mylot admins should do something as it gets so tedious to keep telling them they are breaking rules and them admiting they did not read the guidelines. if they got busy'and posted like I do they would make money and have fun too.
1 person likes this
• United States
30 Dec 09
I agree that there should be something done to make sure that more people read and follow the guidelines and TOS, but I am not sure exactly what measures should be taken. I saw someone suggest that new users would have to put a check by each guideline to prove that he or she has read it and agrees to abide by it. I do not really think that will help, though, since we already had to agree that we read and understood and would follow them before we were able to post anything on here. Similarly, I am not sure that a "test" would be the best thing, either, because not only might it initially scare some users off but also it would be too easy to just keep retaking it with different answers until it was all correct without actually reading the questions. Therefore, I still like the suggestion of another user about a separate tab where new users could ask questions and have them answered, but nobody would earn anything for posting there. That way, it would keep a lot of the inevitable "new user" questions from clogging up the interests, and it might also stop some of them from getting asked repeatedly if they realize right up front that they are not going to earn any money from asking these kind of questions.
2 people like this
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
31 Dec 09
purple my you really have come up with the best suggestion yet, and it could be easily implemented and should not scare anyone off at all. I think thats the best idea I have heard yet. then the rest of us could go back occasionally too and just read to refresh our own minds. Like you said it would reduce the tremendous amount of questions the newer ones ask as they would know the answers at once.
2 people like this
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
31 Dec 09
hi purplealabaster love that user name. anyway yes if mylot admins. would just hear us, and use some of our ideas it might help stop so much of the deleted discussions and clear way for more and better quality of discussions rather than the hoary what flavor of ice cream do you like best, or what toppings do you want on your pizza? or what is your favorite color?
1 person likes this
• United States
31 Dec 09
Thanks Hatley. I think it would really help out, too, as long as it was used in the way that it was intended. I hope that myLot really listens to our suggestions and tries to do as many of them as possible, because I think that it would really help to improve the quality of the site without scaring off newer members, which is definitely not our intent. I wouldn't mind helping to answer some of the questions in the "new users" tab, since I already try to help them out by answering their questions on the boards, even though I know that we will not earn anything from doing it. I know several other members that will help, too, and that will leave the rest of the site cleaner and therefore hopefully it will be easier to find more original and interesting topics to reply to.
1 person likes this
@djbtol (5493)
• United States
30 Dec 09
I think people need to chill about using the name D_ick. It is a name and a quick scan of any discussion easily reveals if it is being used differently.
2 people like this
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
31 Dec 09
djbtol yes I think mylot admins needs to rethink that as that is a real nickname and people use it all the time,and they can easily see if we are not using it correctly. you are right on.
1 person likes this
@GardenGerty (169439)
• United States
30 Dec 09
Many people believe they learn better by doing than by reading. Others think that all forums are the same, and what is good on one is good on the other. Hopefully they learn somehow how to do well on this site.
2 people like this
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
30 Dec 09
hi gardengerty yes they do come from other sites that are not at all like mylot so the rules are different, so if you wanted to learn to drive first you have to study a bit to understand how to drive before you just hop in and start driving. same way with starting to mylot if you take time to learn the rules then you wont be breaking them.
@SomeCowgirl (32189)
• United States
29 Dec 09
Well I think that mylot should have a test that the newcomers must take, I think that the older members should also take this test, but say be compensated for it. Maybe $ 0.2 for every correct answer? that way they will want to study the guidelines up, maybe have a different test say every 3 months? We all should read the guidelines, I know I should as well, I preach it but don't do it.
1 person likes this
@GardenGerty (169439)
• United States
30 Dec 09
I think that the guidelines change sometimes, as well as the TOS. It would be good for us to all re read them once in awhile.
1 person likes this
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
12 Jan 10
alice and somecowgirl I vote for rAndom then we all will never'know when it is coming. he he he.
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
30 Dec 09
hi somecowgirl you know I was just wondering if I could pass a test so had best go back and reread them myself.it is indeed easy to'preach something but yet not do it yourself. I know Ihave done some surveys where they put you through some sort of test to see if you understand what they want, then if you passed you might or might not get sent surveys. I got so ticked off at them because no matter what the survey was they invariably told me you do not qualify. ug and grrr.
1 person likes this
@fwidman (11514)
• United States
30 Dec 09
We were supposed to read those things???
2 people like this
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
31 Dec 09
hi fwidman yep we really are but I guess some of us just do not 'get it or do not want to get it so just go on blindly breaking rules and getting deleted then crying over the fact and then admitting they did not like to be bothered with all those guidelines.grrrrrrrrrrrr. and gggrrr some more.
1 person likes this
@TLChimes (4822)
• United States
30 Dec 09
I had to take one to earn money other places why not here too.... oh... because they want to be able to get even those who don't have a strong understanding of English to play too. I understand not wanting to read through it all but it is a must...... and there should be some type of check and balance system...
2 people like this
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
30 Dec 09
hi tlchimes I do realize we have many who use English as their' second language but they could get friends to help them understand the guidelines so they do not lose discussions. I think too there should be some sort of check and balance system too.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
29 Dec 09
Hi Hatley, how about a basic IQ test? Or a step by step checklist that has to be ticked first?
1 person likes this
@mysdianait (66005)
• Italy
29 Dec 09
lol @ Zone
1 person likes this
@thezone (9394)
• Ireland
30 Dec 09
I guess it would look like this. Where can I spam my Links 1. MyLot [] 2. PM [] 3. Don't do it [] 4. Why was my discussion deleted []
3 people like this
@thezone (9394)
• Ireland
29 Dec 09
They would only pass if it had a "where do I spam with my links" section
3 people like this
@jugsjugs (12967)
29 Dec 09
I have noticed just lately that there have been alot of people asking questions on here about Mylot,however i have also reread the rules as well and some of the rules seem not to be 100% clear for some people to understand and that is why some people are asking these questions.I think that there are alot of people on here that also sit back and watch what other people are doing and then that is the way they think that it has to be done rather than reading all the rules.I have also noticed that a lot of discussions are deleted and from what i could see by the email that is sent saying who ever has started a discussion that there has been no rules broken.So even if people did read the rules like i have time and time again some people still would not understand.
1 person likes this
@mysdianait (66005)
• Italy
29 Dec 09
Some of those who do not understand admit to not understanding and ask a more veteran Lotter if they can add them as a friend and PM them for advice. Some of us try and explain things better off the boards and that has helped many. I agree that some are complicated but they can be understood if a bit of logic is applied too.
1 person likes this
@jugsjugs (12967)
30 Dec 09
The thing i do not understand on here is when a person puts a picture/photo up who gets paid for what,as someone asked me and to be honest i had to get my daughter to put my cat up for me as i had not got a clue.
1 person likes this
@jugsjugs (12967)
30 Dec 09
What about the comments that are made on a picture? If i was to comment on a picture of yours would then you get paid for the comment i made?
1 person likes this
@jb78000 (15139)
29 Dec 09
i think this is a very good idea and would not just (possibly) reduce the number of pointless discussions that go up but also stop all these newbies from feeling upset that their discussions either get no responses or are deleted.
1 person likes this
@ElicBxn (64169)
• United States
30 Dec 09
and maybe weed out those who REFUSE to respond to other people's discussions! I had a "friend" who flat said he wasn't going to respond to other people's discussions and also didn't bother to respond to people that responded to his - he's gone now, BTW....
1 person likes this
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
30 Dec 09
hi jb yes I also agree as they would be knowing what they can and cannot do, so no more deleted discussions and maybe a bit better ones to boot. It is so odd but I looked back over all my old ones and even when I was really new I did not have one that got no responses. odd. i too think that a set limit of points before they can make discussions would be really a good idea then they will more likely know their way around much better and have an'idea of what a good discussion would be.
@jb78000 (15139)
29 Dec 09
oh and it has been suggested before but a minimum post count before you are able to start discussions might also be a good idea.
1 person likes this
@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
5 Jan 10
Well I agree on that one or at least when they see Discussions by new Members that are against the Guidelines, they should write to them and get them to read them and then delete the offensive Discussion do this twice and then ban them if they are still not listening and carrying on going against the Guidelines
1 person likes this
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
12 Jan 10
hi gabs yes they should write to them and maybe tell them what rule they broke but also suggest they go back and really read the guidelines.then they do it twice, ban them. good idea.
@ElicBxn (64169)
• United States
29 Dec 09
I can't say I read them thoroughly, but I did skim thru them. I saw that they wanted meaningful discussions, no "what's your favorite color" type things. After I skimmed them, I went and looked at other discussions started by members, even, maybe, responded to some. I also took the advice of the person who invited me here. I think people would stay if they read the guidelines, and not get discouraged because their discussions are always deleted because of guideline violations... Personally, I think "TOS" that means "Terms Of Service" is a great one - because of "TOS" violations gets you "TOS"ed out!
1 person likes this
@ElicBxn (64169)
• United States
30 Dec 09
1 person likes this
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
30 Dec 09
hi ElicBxn yes meaningful discussions. I was tempted to try one discussion called how do you eat your pizza,standing on your head,cuddling a cat in your arms, or lying down on your tummy? then I thought oh that is not meaningful at all,silly and fun but oh skip it girl. I like your idea about tos and getting tosed out.he he. Yes it would not take that long and they could save so much work and loss of discussions just by a little care.
1 person likes this
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
30 Dec 09
1 person likes this
@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
31 Dec 09
You can bring a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. Short of requiring people to take a test, how can we have people prove they've read the guidelines? And some people just have to learn the hard way, seems like.
1 person likes this
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
31 Dec 09
oh hi dawnald you just made me think of a joke my hubby' used to tell about a man who was watching the other man whack his donkey over the head to get it to'move, and the watching man rebuked the other for being mean to his donkey, and the donkey owner replied, si but first I had to get his attention. So maybe thats' the way it is with some people here , they have to learn through having a lot of discussions deleted that certain things do break mylot rules,
1 person likes this
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
2 Jan 10
gotta get their attention somehow.
@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
31 Dec 09
seems like it...
1 person likes this
@catdla1 (6005)
• United States
30 Dec 09
I agree with you. It would be ideal is every one read the guidelines and retained that knowledge. Unfortunately, some of us just forget. I liken it to learning to drive and getting your drivers license in this country. In order to get a drivers license one must pass a written, vision and driving test to prove that you understand the laws of driving and that you will do so safely. How many of those people who passed all those tests then get traffic tickets or worse, are at fault in an accident, at least at some point in their lives? Whether it's forgetting rules or having a lapse in judgement, sometimes reminders are in order. That's why it would be nice if notices were sent when a discussion or response is deleted. Braggers who are proud that they haven't read the guidelines and rules, will at some point lose their smile should their accounts suddenly be closed.
1 person likes this
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
30 Dec 09
yes i do think notices should be sent out explaining just what rule they broke so they can learn by this,but also they should go back and read or reread theguidelines so you know what rules you must not break, and how to word their discussions so they do not break any rulesl.
1 person likes this
@catdla1 (6005)
• United States
30 Dec 09
It's always a good idea to review the guidelines periodically. Sometimes in studying them too closely, at least for me, clarification goes out the window. For example, in the DOs we are encouraged to help other myLotters get their points across if we see the need or are asked. In the DON'Ts we are not supposed to post discussions directed at one person. Well, if we're helping some one, isn't our help directed at them?
1 person likes this
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
31 Dec 09
I think we all should read and reread those guidelines and look at them occasionly so we also know what we are doing. not fair'to scold others if we goof too, and I know I have myself several times but am now rereading them occasionally to keep current.
@meapas (2436)
• India
30 Dec 09
Yes you are very correct. One should read and understand the guidelines while joining the site but most of the people don't follow this.
1 person likes this
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
30 Dec 09
hi meapas yes I think that if we all read and reread the guidelines we will all be better off. there would be a lot less discussions deleted and upset newcomers here, and they' would be more likely to stay if they saw they were making good discussions.
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
31 Dec 09
hi meapas I wonder if they do not realize how much trouble they could save themselves if they read and understood the guidelines so they could make error free discussions also they would make more earnings too and have fun doing it.
@meapas (2436)
• India
30 Dec 09
I hope the newcomers are reading this discussion. They better do and follow if they don't want to lose out.
1 person likes this
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
2 Jan 10
One of the first things that I did when I became a member here several months ago was to read the guidelines of this site. I think that if you are going to be active in an online community it is important to know the rules so that you are not inadvertantly breaking any of them. I think that when a person is a new member of the site they should be open to learning more about the ropes here from the members that have been around far longer than they have. Honestly, the fact that there are so many helpful people here is one of the reasons that I like this community so much.
1 person likes this
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
2 Jan 10
hiyes dorannmwin I was helped a lot when I was new by an older member whose user name I must not reveal. but she told me that I would get a lot more responses if I waited a week before giving the best response. I took her advice and it really worked.I do not mind helping p eople if they are open to listening and using my help.