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myLot reputation of 86/100. hiccup (8758) 3 years ago

We, well I have heard this over time and have not given much thought to it.

When the Bell, Tolls.

What does that mean, Is it a calling to Church on the Sabbath, That there is a Fire in the town, During the War in England was it another Bombing, or is it party time.

For whom the Bell Tolls...
Who would that be for and why?
Is there a day for the Bell to Toll?
Do you pay for the Bell to Toll ?
Who rings the Bell anyway to Toll???
What's Toll. (is that like a Toll gate?)

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tags:  angelus, announcement, bells toll, sound of bow bells, toll before mass
 
1. myLot reputation of 97/100. Pose123 (8256)   3 years ago

Hi hiccup, Bells toll at a funeral so it would toll for the one who has passed on. Many churches no longer have bells, so it doesn't happen as often as it once did. It was especially common in Britain in the last century and probably still is common in some places today. As a boy and young man living in Eastern Canada, it was very familiar to me. Blessings.


myLot reputation of 86/100. hiccup (8758)  3 years ago

Pose123

I like the Bells in the Church, They had meaning when they were Tolled,

Not only for death, but for many other things we have in life,
In one City I lived in I think we had about 6 Churches who had Bells.

At Christmas it was wonderful to hear them all ringing, They would ring them for an Hour at times.

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myLot reputation of 96/100. lovinangelsinstead21 (3604)   ranked 81 out of 91 in i messed up & regret...i learned and grow!!!  3 years ago

Hiya hiccup,

Personally I love hearing Bells too but not at every hour and Day of the night.
When I go on a bit about Bells is that it´s because I lived right in the Centre of a Town what you would call the oldest part and you can live right next Door to a Church they don´t care they just keep ringing those Bells whether or not. Some People have got no choice but to live there.
Seeing as there is a Saint for every Day of the Year here you can imagine how bad this gets to be apart from the noise of the Street also Day and Night.
The one I disliked the most was that awful Funeral like Bell that tolled continuously.


myLot reputation of 86/100. hiccup (8758)  3 years ago

Pose123

I like the Church Bells and the town hall clock chime off.

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2. myLot reputation of 97/100. bing28 (2513)   3 years ago

In churches here bells toll before every mass. When there's to be wed,when there's baptism, when there's to be blessed (funerals), during angelus time and in some remote areas ringing of bells is to announce something important to the people.


myLot reputation of 86/100. hiccup (8758)  3 years ago

bing28

All those are important tolls, They say something to all of us and we do know what that is when we hear them,

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3. myLot reputation of 96/100. lovinangelsinstead21 (3604)   ranked 81 out of 91 in i messed up & regret...i learned and grow!!!   3 years ago

Hiya hiccup,

As for Bells if you are talking about Church Bells in particular if anyone would have lived where I lived you have loved for them all to go on strike. There was one in particular that sounded like a Funeral Bell tolling all Day long. Even if you shut the Windows it was vibrating your Walls.
Bells, sound of Bells are not very frecuent here thank God.
What I mean to say is that I´m usually trying to be where I can´t hear the darned things they go way past the noise contamination level.
It´s not like in England the Bells well most Bells will sound or chime for a while but here it´s like an obsession.


myLot reputation of 86/100. hiccup (8758)  3 years ago

lovinangelsinstead21

I was thinking of Chuch Bells to start with,
I think an Hour is it, more looses what they are saying to us,

I like the Clock towers chime off. 1/4, 1/2, 3/4 and Hour, then stike the hours out.

HICCUP/


myLot reputation of 96/100. lovinangelsinstead21 (3604)   ranked 81 out of 91 in i messed up & regret...i learned and grow!!!  3 years ago

Hiya hiccup,

I love Church Bells but not the way they do it here. If the bells chime for a certain festive Day then you expect it and actually the Bells will chime nicely whereas all the other Days sounds like World War III has started you have to live in the old part to know what I mean.

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4. myLot reputation of 97/100. dragon54u (15681)   3 years ago

I think the bell used to toll when someone died. Today bells toll for a lot of reasons--weddings, calls to church, celebrating Easter and Christmas. In my town we have a church that I attend and it has a belltower. The clocks tolls the quarter, half and full hours and I can hear it from my house. Every day at 5pm the bells also play songs! It has been Christmas songs lately will will go back to hymns now.

I never knew how much I missed the bells until I got to move back to the area I love.


myLot reputation of 86/100. hiccup (8758)  3 years ago

dragon54u

I like to hear them, They have so much meaning,

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5. myLot reputation of 96/100. Lakota12 (23205)   3 years ago

Am thinking the toll is ringing the bell for one who has died.
But they dont ring them any more.
Teh bell tolls for those who have passed on!


myLot reputation of 86/100. hiccup (8758)  3 years ago

Lakota12

Also for, End of War, Weddings, Calling to Church service, Christmas, Easter.

Sunday. Warnings.

They are used for many things.

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myLot reputation of 96/100. Lakota12 (23205)  3 years ago

SOme warnings but here e mostly get a loud like HORN alert 3 blasts is danger get to a safe place like when tornados are sighted.

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6. myLot reputation of 99/100. savypat (13311)   ranked 83 out of 91 in i messed up & regret...i learned and grow!!!   3 years ago

I think this had to do with the custom of tolling the bell when someone died. To toll the bell you had to pull the rope, but I would guess these days you just push a button and the whole thing is electric. I to love to hear the church bells ring in the distance especially on a snowy morning.


myLot reputation of 86/100. hiccup (8758)  3 years ago

savypat

I wonder if it had anything to do with Toll the Bells on Death to let St,Peter know in Heavan to open the Gates.

HICCUP/


myLot reputation of 99/100. savypat (13311)   ranked 83 out of 91 in i messed up & regret...i learned and grow!!!  3 years ago

It could be, I just know bells are ancient instruments of communication, any where from small bells to keep tract of herd animals like sheep and cows to ship and church bells that tell the hours and give other simple useful information. In fact I have one next to my door on the ranch so that I can summon anyone who is on the ranch, works better then cells which in our hilly land work on and off.

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7. myLot reputation of 97/100. sid556 (18632)   ranked 84 out of 91 in i messed up & regret...i learned and grow!!!   3 years ago

hey there Hiccup,

Not real sure what it really means. I'll tell you what. I'll dig out some of my metallica music and give it a listen this afternoon. I'll pay extra close attention to the lyrics and with any luck, I'll be back here later with an answer to this mystery. ok? wink


myLot reputation of 86/100. hiccup (8758)  3 years ago

sid556

For Whom the Bell Tolls.

HICCUP/


myLot reputation of 97/100. sid556 (18632)   ranked 84 out of 91 in i messed up & regret...i learned and grow!!!  3 years ago

Ok I found and read the lyrics. I tried to copy and paste...didn't work. I also tried to post a link but got that wrong too. doesn't much matter. The words were not all that helpful. It has to do with death is what I got from the song.

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8. myLot reputation of 86/100. owlwings (12374)   3 years ago

Tolling is different from ringing. When a bell is rung, it is swung till it is upside down and then allowed to swing back down again so that the clapper hits the bell with some force. When a bell is tolled, it is swung gently so that the clapper hits the bell gently and the sound is more muted. Ringing is generally used for joyful events but tolling is most often used for funerals.

The quotation you are thinking of comes from Meditation 17 by John Donne. It was written in Latin and is sometimes rendered as: "Ask not for whom the bell tolls: it tolls for thee." The meditation explains how, in Donne's view, all humanity is connected and ends as follows:

"No man is an island, entire of itself...any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind; and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee."


myLot reputation of 86/100. hiccup (8758)  3 years ago

owlwings

A bit like Muffled drums, in the Funeral march.

HICCUP/


myLot reputation of 86/100. owlwings (12374)  3 years ago

Yes. Tolling a bell has a particular sound, different from ringing. The point of the quotation, though, is to show that whatever happens to other people should also be seen to affect us in however small a way.

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