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myLot reputation of 94/100. 1hopefulman (3142)   ranked 24 out of 6,502 in religion 3 years ago

Let's start from scratch and design a universal religion for all mankind. One that would unite people instead of dividing them. One that would be fair to all.

What would you want in this religion and what would you not want?

These are some things that I would want:

Thou shalt have only one God.
Thou shalt not murder anyone.
Thou shalt not steal anything.
Thou shalt treat everyone with dignity and respect.
Thou shalt have only one wife and only one husband.

What about you?


 

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1. myLot reputation of 99/100. GardenGerty (35334)   3 years ago

Love God, Love your neighbor, Love yourself. Treat all with kindness and dignity.
I would have a monotheistic religion.


myLot reputation of 94/100. 1hopefulman (3142)   ranked 24 out of 6,502 in religion  3 years ago

Hi GardenGerty! I see that we much agree on what commandments a "universal religion" should contain. I agree that there should be only one God, if there are more than one God then division would ensue and the same problems and confusion we face today would result. There has to be only one God!

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2. myLot reputation of 47/100. Gordano (393)   ranked 755 out of 6,502 in religion   3 years ago

actually there is no need to design a universal religion for all mankind since the religion for all mankind is already exist, It is Islam If you don't know.

and the commandment that you want is exist in the Holy Quran;

[049:013] O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise each other). Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of God is (he who is) the most righteous of you. And God has full knowledge and is well acquainted (with all things).

as you see, it is Directed at All the mankind, the word Islam means Submission to Allah, we follow the Guidance sent to Muhammad for All the Humanity, and while we Follow Muhammad we are not called the Muhammadans, But we are the Muslims (submitted to God)

The Jews are the Tribe of Judas (one of the 12 tribes of the Children if Israel) Moses PBUH was sent to All the Children of Israel not only for the tribe of Judas, Other tribes of the Children of Israel are not called the Jews, so What do they Call themselves ?

Whatever they Call themselves they submit to God, similarly Jesus Christ was sent to the Children of Israel (the lost sheep of the house of Israel) not Only for the Jews as some People used to think.

Jesus Christ made it Clear that He was sent Only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Matthew 15:24

But he (Jesus) answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Jesus Also commanded His Disciples not to go outside Israel.

Matthew 10:5-6

( 5 ) These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:

( 6 ) But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Jesus Christ didn't come to All the Mankind, and when someone else say another thing different you must admit the You follow this one not Jesus, as Example you can read a sentence such as:

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

it is Obvious and Clear that this sentence was not Made by God Neither By His Son, When you Follow it you follow someone else but not Jesus.

don't forget that During the Time when Jesus was on the Earth His Followers were not Called Christians !! They were Called Christians first in Antioch Many Years after Jesus.

Acts 11:26

And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.

Whatever They Called Them before they Called them Christians in Antioch, They were submitted T God Alone.

Before Trying to design a universal religion for all mankind, bear in Mind that there is a universal religion for all mankind Already Exist and It is Islam.

Best Regards


myLot reputation of 94/100. 1hopefulman (3142)   ranked 24 out of 6,502 in religion  3 years ago

Thank you Gordano for responding.

If Islam was meant to unite mankind, it seems that it not working. For Islam itself is divided, Sunni, Shia, ect.

Matthew 12:25 (King James Version)

25And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:


myLot reputation of 47/100. Gordano (393)   ranked 755 out of 6,502 in religion  3 years ago

You make a gravity mistake when you say that Islam itself is divided, Islam is not divided but people divided themselves into sects against the teachings of Islam.

[006:159] As for those who divide their religion and break up into sects, thou hast no part in them in the least: their affair is with God: He will in the end tell them the truth of all that they did.

Best Regards


myLot reputation of 89/100. GADHISUNU (1467)   ranked 329 out of 6,502 in religion  3 years ago

If Islam indeed a Universal Religion why are not everyone gravitating towards it, naturally? Why the very presence of it since 688AD-it is almost 1400 years now, why it has not become Universal? Why is it that even after its coming Christians are in greater numbers?


myLot reputation of 20/100. awapak (611)   ranked 4,197 out of 6,502 in religion  3 years ago

I agree with the nice views of Gordano.We do not have to create a universal religion for us as it is already existing as ISLAM since Adam and was supported by all the Prophets of God.It will also be supported by Jesus on his second coming.


myLot reputation of 94/100. 1hopefulman (3142)   ranked 24 out of 6,502 in religion  3 years ago

Hi Gordano! I did not make the different Islamic sects. So which group then truly represents Islam?


myLot reputation of 47/100. Gordano (393)   ranked 755 out of 6,502 in religion  3 years ago

anyone who adhere to the Quran and the Sunnah (actions and sayings of Muhammad) is truly represents Islam.


myLot reputation of 35/100. urbandekay (6799)   ranked 1,376 out of 6,502 in religion  3 years ago

Muslims have been fighting and killing each other since shortly after the death of Muhammad

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3. myLot reputation of 87/100. Ravenladyj (19028)   ranked 106 out of 6,502 in religion   3 years ago

Okay so you want ONE true UNIVERSAL religion..which in theory would be okay I suppose but then you say that you would want one of the rules to be:

Thou shalt have only one God

Just exactly how would that make it UNIVERSAL and/or FAIR to all??

I personally would want it to simply be

Practice and believe as you wish WITH RESPECT, COMPASSION AND KINDNESS TO ALL REGARDLESS OF OUR DIFFERENCES.....

or something along those lines.


myLot reputation of 94/100. 1hopefulman (3142)   ranked 24 out of 6,502 in religion  3 years ago

If there is only one God then we all have something in common. If there is more than one God, how will that unite mankind?


myLot reputation of 89/100. GADHISUNU (1467)   ranked 329 out of 6,502 in religion  3 years ago

May be he means ONE GOD but without a particular name to the God. The emphasis on names must go, for something to be Universal.


myLot reputation of 87/100. Galena (6231)   ranked 68 out of 6,502 in religion  3 years ago

dictating belief in only one god won't unite anyone either. there are many many polytheists in the world

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4. myLot reputation of 96/100. Lakota12 (23205)   3 years ago

WE alrready have it . its called the ten commandments ! and thats what the atheist wants to be takebn of al buildings in DC!


myLot reputation of 96/100. Lakota12 (23205)  3 years ago

And these words are also in the Bible!!!


myLot reputation of 87/100. Ravenladyj (19028)   ranked 106 out of 6,502 in religion  3 years ago

and just how is that universial and fair to all? Its not...not even close..


myLot reputation of 96/100. Lakota12 (23205)  3 years ago

It can be


myLot reputation of 82/100. RobtheRock (1837)   ranked 1,119 out of 6,502 in religion  3 years ago

Let me add to this great response. We'll get our world kingdom (not religion) when Jesus returns. And for those who are blessed to live in the kingdom, the ten commandments will be within us.


myLot reputation of 96/100. Lakota12 (23205)  3 years ago

rob.
Just what I said!


myLot reputation of 87/100. Ravenladyj (19028)   ranked 106 out of 6,502 in religion  3 years ago

Apparently the two of you missed the point of the OP...he asked what would be UNIVERSAL AND FAIR TO ALL....you two are only thinking of yourselves..which sadly is SO common...


myLot reputation of 94/100. 1hopefulman (3142)   ranked 24 out of 6,502 in religion  3 years ago

Lakota12, I also agree that the 10 commandments are universal. If practiced they would benefit all mankind.


myLot reputation of 96/100. Lakota12 (23205)  3 years ago

1hopefulman,
Thnaks I do too!

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5. myLot reputation of 96/100. drannhh (9930)   3 years ago

1) Thou shalt not impose thy religion on others.
2) Thou shalt do unto other NOT what you would have done unto yourself, but what others want done unto them.
3) Thou shalt not steal, not stand by idly watching while others steal.
4) Thou shalt not kill except that which is to be eaten (and that had better not be human)
5) Thou shalt not assault anyone.
6) Thou shalt remember that children are people too, and that women hold up half of the sky.

Actually, this list could get rather long. It seems that I have rather more shalt nots than shalts. Let's see:

7) Thou shalt enjoy the gifts thou art given and when appropriate share them with others for the betterment of all.

I think I will stop there for now. I like the answer that Ravenlady gave :-)


myLot reputation of 94/100. 1hopefulman (3142)   ranked 24 out of 6,502 in religion  3 years ago

We need one religion so that mankind can be united. Multiple religions won't work. Doing good to all is a good one.


myLot reputation of 89/100. GADHISUNU (1467)   ranked 329 out of 6,502 in religion  3 years ago

How do you define what is good?


myLot reputation of 96/100. drannhh (9930)  3 years ago

Exactly, GADHISUNU, as what might be good for one person might be very bad for another. That is why people need the freedom to choose for themselves when and where and how they wish to worship without being subjected to someone else's interpretation of what is good. Whenever human beings try to put themselves in between other people and their religion/s, that breeds tyranny and corruption. By its very definition, peace requires liberty.


myLot reputation of 94/100. 1hopefulman (3142)   ranked 24 out of 6,502 in religion  3 years ago

Good would be obeying the commandments.

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6. myLot reputation of 95/100. kun2349 (10498)   3 years ago

I think i will have the same first commandment as yours, to have only one god.. haha =D thumbup

As for the rest, it will be different.. lol =D I will like the entire world to be full of murderers, and everybody is free to marry anybody, whoever they wants..

Procreate as much as they feel like it.. They must be responsible for all their actions in everything, if not, they shall be punished by ple in the world..

For there are no laws and the only punishment available is death!! lol =D lol


myLot reputation of 94/100. 1hopefulman (3142)   ranked 24 out of 6,502 in religion  3 years ago

I quote: "I will like the entire world to be full of murderers." I don't want to live in that world.

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7. myLot reputation of 87/100. Galena (6231)   ranked 68 out of 6,502 in religion   3 years ago

enforced monotheism won't unite all people. I suppose this deity is automatically perceived as male too? and will be the one from Christianity, whether the non Christians like it or not, and that will unite us all?


if you want ideals that will suit all and make society better, Asatru has the nine noble virtues. which I always think is a wonderful set of ideals.

if all of us strive to live up to them, society will be a better place, even if we don't always succeed in meeting those ideals in every area of life.

Courage
Truth
Honour
Fidelity
Discipline
Hospitality
Self Reliance
Industriousness
Perseverance


the implications of these qualities are explained very well here

http://www.friggasweb.org/nvirtues.html

it's explaining the qualities for children, but I think it does a very good job of explaining how they relate to a modern lifestyle.

these are all qualities that benefit both the individual and the community, and society itself.



I think in addition to that it should also recommend that each persons soul is their own responsibility, and their relationship with deity their own. no one can dictate how that deity is perceived to another individual. that's between us and our Gods.


myLot reputation of 94/100. 1hopefulman (3142)   ranked 24 out of 6,502 in religion  3 years ago

The first number is one, the first God is one and God would have male and female qualities and be neither male nor female but so much more.


myLot reputation of 80/100. KHANRABIULLAH (112)   ranked 630 out of 6,502 in religion  2 years ago

hey hpoefulman,
hello i am khan hope that you remember me very well. i am here to tell you that god is the one who is away from our imagine. i want to tell all the rules made by god is for benefit of complete human kind. i want to tell that there are some peoples who never accept all this things because they are addict with their dirty works. please ignore anything which makes you uncomfortable in this comment, but please read with full concentration and judge it whether i am true or false?
please reply soon, khan.


myLot reputation of 94/100. 1hopefulman (3142)   ranked 24 out of 6,502 in religion  2 years ago

Hi KHANRABIULLAH! Thanks for your comment. I respect freedom of religion and the right of every human to choose whom they will view as God. As far as I can see, there is one true God that created us and then there are many gods that we created. I will serve and obey the God that is revealed in the Holy Bible.

Deuteronomy 10:17 (Young's Literal Translation)

17for Jehovah your God -- He is God of the gods, and Lord of the lords; God, the great, the mighty, and the fearful; who accepteth not persons, nor taketh a bribe;

Personally I will do whatever He asks me to do because that will benefit me now and into eternity. I hope God will also bless you. happy


myLot reputation of 80/100. KHANRABIULLAH (112)   ranked 630 out of 6,502 in religion  2 years ago

hello friend,
i am not telling you that you only believe in our holy book quran but please see all the religion holy books and compare then you will get the truth. you know what god had creatd us by combination of
soul+body+life
and animals and plants with combination of
body+life
due to this god told that no animals and plants give me account but only man and genies will give me account on the day of judgement(qyamat)of complete life divided in three parts:
childhood+youth+oldness
you know about the day of judgement if your answer is no then i will tell you some short things:
1 day of judgement is very long as compare to our normal days it is about 50,000 years of normal days.
at the day of judgement all tha land of earth is completelly converts into metal and sun will on our head with the distance of 1.5 miles. now compare that the sun is now away from our earth with the distance of many crore kilmeteres and imagine what will be our condition at that time.
at that day all the people from origin of whole world till the end of whole world will be awaked by the order of the god of all universe "almighty allah" and they have to be prepare to give the accounts of their complete life.
all the peoples are without any dress on their body but no one will be having time to see each other so they are struggling for going in heaven.
very firstlly all the peoples are sticked on their places and they are unable to move until they answer three questions asked from the god of universe "almighty allah". they are :
1. where you spend your childhood?
2. where you spend your youth?
3. where you spend your old age?
by answering this questions all are free to move for further process.
another important thing is that we are having the hieght of 180 feet and heart of 45 Kgs to see the god of all universes and our thinking capacity will be increased to 100%.
(note: no one can answer wrong in front of almighty allah as they know everything and they are in very bad mood on that day.)
please think on my comment and then please reply me (if you want). your friend always with you, khan.

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8. myLot reputation of 23/100. Chiang_Mai_boy (1773)   ranked 2,967 out of 6,502 in religion   3 years ago

Only one. Do no harm!


myLot reputation of 94/100. 1hopefulman (3142)   ranked 24 out of 6,502 in religion  3 years ago

"Do no harm" is a good one.


myLot reputation of 35/100. urbandekay (6799)   ranked 1,376 out of 6,502 in religion  3 years ago

The philosophy, not of a Buddhist but a Jain

all the best urban


myLot reputation of 23/100. Chiang_Mai_boy (1773)   ranked 2,967 out of 6,502 in religion  3 years ago

Who said anything about Buddhism? I was reflecting my own point of view, not one of a specific religion.


myLot reputation of 35/100. urbandekay (6799)   ranked 1,376 out of 6,502 in religion  3 years ago

Mea Culpa

all the best urban

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9. adibond (1)   3 years ago

Main purpose of religion is not to bring man to heaven but to bring heaven to man.
Suscribe to what you said plus... thou shalt love your parents


myLot reputation of 87/100. Ravenladyj (19028)   ranked 106 out of 6,502 in religion  3 years ago

thou shalt love your parents

I'm sorry but I dont see how that fits...I mean some ppl SHOULDNT love their parents becuase the parents DONT DESERVE IT and other ppl straight up dont have any parents....


myLot reputation of 94/100. 1hopefulman (3142)   ranked 24 out of 6,502 in religion  3 years ago

Of course!


myLot reputation of 94/100. 1hopefulman (3142)   ranked 24 out of 6,502 in religion  3 years ago

Ravenladyj, in our new world, parents would be good and deserve love because they would love their children.

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10. myLot reputation of 23/100. Chiang_Mai_boy (1773)   ranked 2,967 out of 6,502 in religion   3 years ago

To quote from a man much wiser than Me:

"The religion of the future will be a cosmic religion. It should transcend personal God and avoid dogma and theology. Covering both the natural and the spiritual, it should be based on a religious sense arising from the experience of all things natural and spiritual as a meaningful unity. Buddhism answers this description. If there is any religion that could cope with modern scientific needs it would be Buddhism." (Albert Einstein)

The interesting thing here is that there are no commandments in Buddhism. Maybe we don't need any.


myLot reputation of 94/100. 1hopefulman (3142)   ranked 24 out of 6,502 in religion  3 years ago

Commandments are made to guide us but if we live the commandments then there is no need for commandments.

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