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myLot reputation of 99/100. wolfie34 (14489)   ranked 6 out of 5,012 in travel 2 years ago

June is the worst month for me, I hate it, absolutely hate the month, it's the start of the Summer which I hate and I suffer with SAD in the Summer months. I always come crashing down with a bump and I dread it, it's always been the same.

This year I thought I'd give myself something to look forward to in June, instead of fearing it, I would take myself away for a few weeks, I've always wanted to go to Ireland. I travel alone as I am a single guy, so you'd think it would be cheaper right?
WRONG! I got the shock of my life when I went into the travel agents on Friday

I hate flying, so I purposely chose a holiday by coach and boat, it was for 15 nights to see Southern Ireland and it would have excursions included, Giants Causeway and Dublin especially somewhere where I would love to go to. Well for 15 nights for bed, breakfast and evening meal, travel to and from Ireland from London is £1079 in June which is probably $1800.

BUT because of a single supplement charge as I travel alone they want to charge me an extra £433 ($700) that's approx 33% ON TOP OF THE HOLIDAY

I told them that is EXTORTION!

What do you think?

In your country do you get charged EXTRA to travel alone?

Is it fair that they should charge a whacking 33% on top of the fare?

Needless to say I am NOT going and I am going to reconsider where I go in June but I do need to get away

Why do single travellers get penalized? Why should you pay extra for travelling alone?

In today's bad economy it doesn't encourage you to go on holiday does it?

Have you ever had to pay a single supplement when going on holiday?

 

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1. myLot reputation of 97/100. dragon54u (15681)   ranked 666 out of 5,012 in travel   2 years ago

That is outrageous! I hope you find a better deal and find someplace to go that you will love.

SAD in June?! When it's all sunny and nice? I thought SAD was because of lack of sunshine, perhaps I misunderstood.

I would love to go to Ireland but will probably never get to. I've heard it beautiful. My son got to go with his grandparents and he loved it.


myLot reputation of 99/100. wolfie34 (14489)   ranked 6 out of 5,012 in travel  2 years ago

SAD (seasonal affective disorder) seasonal in that you can get SAD in any season not just winter. Maybe it's me, I'm weird but I am far happier in the Winter months. Maybe I should have been born in Iceland or Scandinavia. But I loathe the Summer. I have also wanted to go to Sweden and New Zealand but it's the plane journey that puts me off and I dread to think how much they'd charge me for single supplement going that distance!


myLot reputation of 97/100. dragon54u (15681)   ranked 666 out of 5,012 in travel  2 years ago

Then I probably had SAD when I lived in the desert. I would get so depressed because of the constant sun and no variation in weather. I'm much happier now that I live where there are 4 seasons!

Traveling by air is more trouble than it's worth these days and it's much more fun to go by bus or train, in my opinion.


myLot reputation of 86/100. owlwings (12379)   ranked 584 out of 5,012 in travel  2 years ago

I, too, was a little surprised to hear of someone suffering from SAD in the summer but your explanation (and Dragon's experience) sounds logical.


myLot reputation of 99/100. GardenGerty (35331)   ranked 7 out of 5,012 in travel  2 years ago

I had heard of people who got SAD during the summer because of the constant heat and discomfort, more than the light, but whatever causes it, I believe it, and sometimes have found that I have it. I am mellowing out more both directions as I get older.


myLot reputation of 99/100. wolfie34 (14489)   ranked 6 out of 5,012 in travel  2 years ago

Maybe it's worth me doing a discussion about it to find out if I am NOT the only one out there. I wish I could grow out of it but my moods are awful in the Summer months. I wish I could hibernate, maybe I should have been born in Iceland or Scandanivia, knowing my luck had I of been born there and I would of hated the cold instead PMSL. Thanks guys ;0)

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2. myLot reputation of 86/100. owlwings (12379)   ranked 584 out of 5,012 in travel   2 years ago

I've always wondered about the 'Single Supplement' but it was once explained to me (by someone in the Hotel business) as a sort of 'reverse discount'.

If you have two people occupying a room, there is practically the same amount of work and cost involved as there is for one (the price of meals, of course, are theoretically doubled but the actual cost of food is quite a small part of the total that we are charged and I believe that catering is based on 'rooms occupied' rather than 'heads' - or 'bellies to fill').

If you were two people travelling together you would be charged 2 x £1079, of course, and would be getting a virtual discount of £866 because you would only be occupying one room.

If you look at it that way it is a little more understandable, I believe (though I still think that a Single Supplement of a third extra is extortionate!)

Ireland is a glorious country (though it has changed a lot, I hear, since I was last there ... hmmm ... 50 years ago [faints]). I hope you can shop around and find a better deal!


myLot reputation of 99/100. wolfie34 (14489)   ranked 6 out of 5,012 in travel  2 years ago

Thank you for explaining that to me. Maybe I should eat double the food to make up for the price PMSL. If they ask why my plate is piled high I shall say it's a supplement ;0)


myLot reputation of 97/100. ShepherdSpy (4261)   ranked 90 out of 5,012 in travel  2 years ago

Working in the hotel business (In Ireland!),food and lodging account for only a relatively small part of the business profits-There's more profit in the drinks sold in the Bars! It depends on the time of the year and the week too...much more business happens in the summer,and at weekends,(weddings,functions and such,)so there are fewer rooms available,and Hoteliers would be reluctant to give up the chance of a double occupancy in a room for the increased profit margin,so they'll slap on a surcharge for the lone traveller..Aren't there groups that cater to travelling singles that can negotiate against supplements?

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3. myLot reputation of 100/100. JenInTN (10145)   ranked 43 out of 5,012 in travel   2 years ago

Cupid has his ways of working behind the scene doesn't he? rofl I think that it's absurd to have to pay a single supplement! What are they thinking? I would be mad as a hornet if they told me that. I have never been charged extra that I know of for traveling alone but I will be checking to make sure from here on out when I do travel.
Most people that I have heard of suffering from SAD do so in the winter months. It's very different that you do so in the summer.


myLot reputation of 99/100. wolfie34 (14489)   ranked 6 out of 5,012 in travel  2 years ago

Told you I was weird, that is why cupid doesn't come my way he doesn't want to get what I've got, it's contagious so he keeps away like the plague. Maybe that's another discussion SAD in the summer months, ;0)

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4. myLot reputation of 99/100. recycledgoth (7430)   ranked 20 out of 5,012 in travel   2 years ago

I've been hammered by single supplements in the past and it's absolutely infuriating. They think they can charge a huge percentage when, in fact, they really don't need to be charging anywhere near that amount. I can understand, partly, the reasons why but the fact remains that as a single traveller you are penalised. It's outrageous and I have, in the past, made a bit of a fuss over it and managed to get the charge reduced a little.


myLot reputation of 99/100. wolfie34 (14489)   ranked 6 out of 5,012 in travel  2 years ago

It's a downright cheek and liberty taker, but they know they've got you by the short and curlies, figuratively speaking naturally. Well they've lost my custom, they said it wasn't the coach companies fault it was down to the hotels. Well put me up in a B&B instead then, I don't care as long as it's got a bed and NO single supplement. I'd even sleep in a caravan if it meant saving £433 thank you very much.

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5. myLot reputation of 99/100. GardenGerty (35331)   ranked 7 out of 5,012 in travel   2 years ago

Since I have not traveled as a single, I have not faced that fee.It seems that all forms of transportation and travel are beginning to charge extra any place they think they can get away with it. It just does not sound fair. On the other hand, planning a trip or something to look forward to during a time when you are usually unhappy does sound like a really great plan to me. It can change some of your associations for that time of year, for sure.


myLot reputation of 99/100. wolfie34 (14489)   ranked 6 out of 5,012 in travel  2 years ago

My therapist said it was a magnificent idea, just have to rethink the location. Either that or hibernate during the Summer months, in my next life I either want to be born in Iceland or Scandinavia or come back as an arctic animal. Knowing my luck in my next life I'll hate the cold instead and live in Iceland PMSL!

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6. myLot reputation of 95/100. cloudwatcher (4168)   ranked 89 out of 5,012 in travel   2 years ago

Hi Wolfie. I believe the reason for the supplement is because of the accommodation portion - two rooms instead of one. Motel rooms here are the same cost whether for single or double, so the extra charge is possibly the extra accommodation charge.

Many tours have a "twin share" rate which means you are accommodated with a person of similar age and same gender. I don't think you would like that idea, but since it is only for sleeping and showering, as most of the time you are touring, you may be able to accept it - but room temperature settings could be a hassle. He might want it HOT!


myLot reputation of 99/100. wolfie34 (14489)   ranked 6 out of 5,012 in travel  2 years ago

I don't care where I sleep as long as I've got a bed. After all you don't spend much time in your room when you are on holiday or travelling do you? Yeah and knowing my luck the guy would be a heavy snorer, an insomniac or a drunk. I wonder I broke a hall of mirrors in my previous life PMSL!


myLot reputation of 99/100. wolfie34 (14489)   ranked 6 out of 5,012 in travel  2 years ago

Oooopss I have to add to that, when I said I don't care where I sleep as long as I've got a bed, I meant to say ALONE! I don't share my bed with anyone or anything PMSL


myLot reputation of 95/100. cloudwatcher (4168)   ranked 89 out of 5,012 in travel  2 years ago

PMSL? That's a new one on me. Don't tell me what it is if it is something I'd rather not know.

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7. myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 11 out of 5,012 in travel   2 years ago

Yep we do, but I have never done it myself. Actually I tend to put my own tours together and buy the airfare and room and etc. separately...


myLot reputation of 99/100. wolfie34 (14489)   ranked 6 out of 5,012 in travel  2 years ago

Trouble is it's the hotels that stick on the single supplements rather than the coach tour company. Maybe I should take my tent with me LOL


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 11 out of 5,012 in travel  2 years ago

Most of the hotels here just charge for the room, they don't care how many people are in them.

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8. myLot reputation of 98/100. maximax8 (17658)   ranked 3 out of 5,012 in travel   2 years ago

Hi my friend Wolfie. In my backpacker days I slept in a single bed in a dorm in a youth hostel. These days I travel with my toddler son and baby daughter. So I get a double room or a single room. Then I put my children's travel cots on the floor. Typically I purchase a flight and then travel around a region. If you liked flying you get a cheap flight from London to Belfast and then you travel by local buses over to the Giants Causeway. I know there is a ferry from Holyhead in Wales to Dublin. Alternatively you get a ferry over from South Wales to Southern Ireland. Then you could travel around Southern Ireland by train. You could book bed and breakfast single rooms by finding the detail in a travel guide book. I know for certain that would make the price of your trip a lot lower. Single supplements are horrible. Good luck planning your budget minded trip.


myLot reputation of 99/100. wolfie34 (14489)   ranked 6 out of 5,012 in travel  2 years ago

Thank you for your excellent advice, I know you are well travelled yourself and appreciate your indepth knowledge my friend.


myLot reputation of 97/100. ShepherdSpy (4261)   ranked 90 out of 5,012 in travel  2 years ago

Just bear in mind the Giant's Causeway is in the North of the Country,if You're planning a tour of the south! happy


myLot reputation of 98/100. maximax8 (17658)   ranked 3 out of 5,012 in travel  2 years ago

Thanks for the best response my friend. I really appreciate it. I will be flying to Vancouver this summer with my toddler son and baby daughter. When my son was a baby I took him for a long weekend to Northumberland. We stayed in a tiny single room with his travel cot on the floor.

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9. myLot reputation of 95/100. gabs8513 (23375)   ranked 4 out of 5,012 in travel   2 years ago

Wow Wolfie, how comes you hate June so much my Birthday is in June lol
It is getting worse with these Companies trying to rip People of what is the Idea of Paying more just because you are travelling alone???
I just do not get it
Take Gissi with you Sweetie then they can't charge you this lol
Seriously I would look into that a bit deeper
Love you ................hugs xxx


myLot reputation of 99/100. wolfie34 (14489)   ranked 6 out of 5,012 in travel  2 years ago

I have scrapped Ireland and I have scrapped using the coach company, I have decided to go travelling like I did in 2006, just me and my car, and book in guest houses en route. I did 5 weeks of Scotland then, this time I want to do South Wales, in particular Tenby and Aberystwyth. I have never been to Cheltenham or Gloucester so I will pay those places a visit. So that will solve the problem and I also get the independence too. But Gissi would be welcome LOL ;0)


myLot reputation of 98/100. maximax8 (17658)   ranked 3 out of 5,012 in travel  2 years ago

Last year my son and I visited beautiful Tenby. It is a lovely place for you to visit my friend. I hope to visit Cheltenham and Gloucester soon because I live within a day trip sort of distance from them.

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10. myLot reputation of 96/100. eaforeman6 (4202)   ranked 1,278 out of 5,012 in travel   2 years ago

It is a shame that they do charge that way. A trip to Ireland sounds wonderful. I sure hope you do get to take your wonderful trip. It would be so beautiful and I would take many pictures. Best wish's for you!


myLot reputation of 99/100. wolfie34 (14489)   ranked 6 out of 5,012 in travel  2 years ago

Thank you my friend, I hope you are well ;0)

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