Tuesday Arrives...The Lamb Is NOT Happy  

I was told by the State several years ago that I would have to hire my own attorney to take her to court, and not knowing where she was...

The Illinois Dept of Legal Aid will help women about support issues, but won't help about visitation.

Not right...

Yeh, the support system and indeed the entire divorce/custody system is very heavily biased on the side of the woman. The ACLU (american civil liberties union) provides free legal councel in a lot of areas. I can't stand these guys for the most part because they do go way over board on a lot of issues, but, they may be just the sheisters you need. I have always said...if I was ever going to get a lwayer, I didn't want anything to do with honest or ethical lawyers...I wanted the most sheistering, devious, blood sucking scum bag I could find...lol.
Anyway, it was just a thought, again, you have my sincere empathy mike, this is pretty shytty.

Heavilly biased on the side of the children, I think. Yeah, it sucks, but a measley $100/mo is really nothing.

Actually, I have been on both sides of the issue...both as a single father and the father of an absent child. I sincerely hope I didn't come across as sexist or anything, it wasn't my intention and I apologize if I did. I was just expressing my beliefs based on my expreiences was all. Now, perhaps it is a biased opinion? Perhaps.
Yes, a hundred bucks a month is pretty small, i didn't get off half that easy (despite having two daughters I was raising by myself at the time as well), but to someone who is dead poor, it might as well be a million bucks.
Another thing they do here is they often start people out in the hole by going retroactive from 6 months prior to the custodial parent filing for support. With that practice, even 100 hundred a month puts someone pretty deep in the hole before they even get started.

I am being sucked into a government twilight zone...call the DMV about the license, they refer me to the child support office about the suspension...so I sent THEM an email yesterday, and got one back today saying I need to talk to the DMV about it...

Bloody blame game, eh? Rotten scoundrels.

The Child Support people are the ones to negotiate with. They are the ones that instituted the suspension and they are the only ones that can negotiate a payment plan.

Besides, if you cannot drive, you cannot work and cannot pay, right? Not making sense at all.

Yes, well government and logic are kind of like oil and water. Don't mix well...

Dawn, I spent 15 years trying to track them down, and as I said, they took my taxes each year for payment, so I was technically paying anyway.

The REALLY stupid part was back in the late 80's...I was in prison, and got a letter from the state saying they were going to take me to court for not paying support...while I was in prison.

After a while, you just don't give a shyt anymore...

I can understand not giving a shyt after such a long time. So if you were 'technically paying', what the heck are they coming after you for? I guess they did a lousy job of collecting...

As far as I know, I am about $1,600.00 in arrears...so if they want that, okay, but to take my freaking license so I can't get around is insane.

No, it doesn't make sense, but I spose they really wanted to get your attention. Annoying and inconvenient, but apparently it worked.

Of course they could have told you straight out.

Nope, never mind, that would be logical...

Yeah, I can't get over that they have the nerve to suspend his license without ANY NOTICE of same, and then stab him in the back further by saying the charges for driving while under suspension are still valid.

Gotta fight that in court, myky. I think you should win.

I think so too. Ignorance of the law may not be an excuse, but this isn't a case of that. It's a case of being aware of the law, but not having been notified of the situation. Can they prove they notified you? I bet not...

May be there is a new law that allows such linking of driving licence! :( Possibly meant to prevent defiance of court laws. :(

Maybe so, but Dawn stands up and sez it's a stupid law!!!!!!

Also standing to say it's a stupid law.....
1. What has driving to do with it?
2. A 31 year old daughter? When does it stop?

I like the water and oil analogy..

Whoever delivers the check should arrest the mother for violating a court order.

I think the girl or her mother needs that money desperately. May be they have a mortgage or whatever. They tried to recall all possible sources and came up with this. Dont debts get time barred in your parts of the world? Out here - three years is the time limit for taking any action for cash dues.

It's different when it's a court order.

hi zephyrsun oh my the light finally dawned on me, morning person I am not, love it, sneaker express. wow. making having to walk look really shabby. he he.

My thought too! At 31 surely she does not or should not be entitled to anymore support from either parent??

hi Torunn and Diana my thoughts also, age 31, how many years is he supposed to pay child support for a w oman almost old enough to have grandkids, well exaggerating a little there but the age really threw me.

You are liable for support until the child is no longer attending school full time, that includes University, too, sometimes. So, 18 or 19 graduate high school, go to University for 4 yrs or maybe more, a likelihood of 23yrs for current support payments to be ongoing and due and payable. Then, at $100/mo, that is $1200/yr for 23 yrs = $27,600. Plus, it goes up with cost of living increases each year, maybe 2 - 6%, and there is interest added and late payment fees if not paid, etc, etc.

So, depending on how much they have already collected from his income tax refunds over the years, he still owes back child support, not current support.

They are cracking down, because there are just way too many delinguent fathers that do not pay support, causing the children to suffer living in poverty or below poverty conditions, is all.

They use the driving priviledges as a motivator to get them to pay up.

No Annie, I was only liable for support until they reached the age of majority...things were much different then.

Now that I think about it, it was an add-on at the time of my divorce, that my husband agreed to, to cover her until she was done any full time schooling. That was 1990.

Our age of majority here is 18 when you can vote and 19 to drink. What is it there, 21? Or is every state different? I know Quebec here has a lower drinking age, maybe 17.

It's 18 in Illinois.

But you can't drink until 21.

Drink and vote at 18, cigarettes and making babies at 16. It never made sense to me, really.

No matter why and what, it's a bit weird that they can take away someone's driving license like that. What if the person depends on the car to be able to go to work? Then he or she won't be able to pay anything at all. Very weird.

I believe the state is the one doing it.

yup, hands in your pockets cause theirs are empty.

Finding out you have an 18 yr old daughter you never knew you had? WOW! I hope there was a paternity test to PROVE it was his, before they look to him for suppport.

the state actually tried to demand payment first-and he demanded a test.
it came back positive,but at least he now knows it is his.