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Do Metal Bands really need to include a sentimental ballad song on their albums?  email this discussion to a friend?

myLot reputation of 96/100. albertwhisker (4532) 2 years ago

Okay, Rock bands do include some acoustic track and ballad tracks in their albums but I noticed that Metal bands do that too. I dont know but i found it bizarre when metal bands include so soft melodramatic track on their albums that was supposed to be loud and upbeat. I do like some ballad from Metal bands but It seemed like ballad tracks works better to rockers. I know some people confuse Rockbands to Metal bands but they were 2 different entities.

 

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1. myLot reputation of 89/100. lakerfanster (1304)   ranked 52 out of 2,055 in music lover   2 years ago

I think that it's just a mark of the band's taste in music. I can't think of any metal band who just do the same thing over and over again without doing a "love ballad" or something a bit slower than their normal thing.


myLot reputation of 96/100. albertwhisker (4532)  2 years ago

Yeah even Metallica have slow songs, I think its a way for Metal bands to get sales from the casual listeners.I think a certain point of any Metal band's career they do a slow track. It works for rockers but I do admit I feel a little weird about it at 1st then love the song in the end.


myLot reputation of 89/100. lakerfanster (1304)   ranked 52 out of 2,055 in music lover  2 years ago

I think it's good for them to show a bit of range in their music as when you're listening to an album you want a bit of variety.


myLot reputation of 96/100. albertwhisker (4532)  2 years ago

yeah I think its for the sake of variety so fans wont have the same thing in one album. Its to avoid redundancy I think.


myLot reputation of 89/100. lakerfanster (1304)   ranked 52 out of 2,055 in music lover  2 years ago

It would be nice if the soundtrack was more a part of the whole package and was mentioned in the adverts and not just for the huge games.


myLot reputation of 96/100. albertwhisker (4532)  2 years ago

LOL wrong thread...lol

mostly the Metal bands with female vocals are the ones who were fond of including some ballads in their album.


myLot reputation of 89/100. lakerfanster (1304)   ranked 52 out of 2,055 in music lover  2 years ago

Lol, bum, I got confused. Now onto the right thread lol. I really like the ballads from Nightwish and Evanescence.


myLot reputation of 96/100. albertwhisker (4532)  2 years ago

I cant imagine Korn doing a Ballad though, I want them to stay loud as they can be.


myLot reputation of 89/100. lakerfanster (1304)   ranked 52 out of 2,055 in music lover  2 years ago

Yeah It would be interested what Jonathan Davis came up with if Korn ever did do a Ballad. It would certainly be different to their normal stuff.


myLot reputation of 96/100. albertwhisker (4532)  2 years ago

I had heard them singing in acoustic before and it kinda doesn't work for them, they were meant to sing louad angry song, I also dont know if they can pull of a happy song. metallica was able to pull it of somehow.


myLot reputation of 89/100. lakerfanster (1304)   ranked 52 out of 2,055 in music lover  2 years ago

Yeah I agree about Metallica. I suppose it can sound too different when a song you know is suddenly performed acoustically that it does not sound right.


myLot reputation of 96/100. albertwhisker (4532)  2 years ago

Its a big risk of metal bands to try adding a ballad track in their albums but if they can pull it off the risk was wirth it. the only Metal i dont like was rap metal.


myLot reputation of 89/100. lakerfanster (1304)   ranked 52 out of 2,055 in music lover  2 years ago

It's hard to get the fusion between Rap & Metal right so it does seem to sound not right and is too much one style.


myLot reputation of 96/100. albertwhisker (4532)  2 years ago

I get to like Linkin park in their 1st album, after that they get old to me because all of their songs sound the same.


myLot reputation of 89/100. lakerfanster (1304)   ranked 52 out of 2,055 in music lover  2 years ago

Yeah, I agree they do sound pretty similar when they do that kind of thing.


myLot reputation of 96/100. albertwhisker (4532)  2 years ago

Plus their too old to rely too much on teen angst with their lyrics. Their starting to turn into a noisy version of Emo.


myLot reputation of 89/100. lakerfanster (1304)   ranked 52 out of 2,055 in music lover  2 years ago

Yeah they do have a different audience to when they started becoming big.


myLot reputation of 96/100. albertwhisker (4532)  2 years ago

Reinventing is really important to many artist, its practically needed for to maintain their fame and to further their careers. Linkin Park cant reinvent though, they should stop singing teen angst because they were not teens anymore.


myLot reputation of 89/100. lakerfanster (1304)   ranked 52 out of 2,055 in music lover  2 years ago

Yeah you need to evolve over the course of a career to reflect your life as you get older.

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2. myLot reputation of 95/100. Bearballew (464)   ranked 59 out of 2,055 in music lover   2 years ago

no way... those songs usually don't get listened to anyway! Don't waste your time or the studio's time!


myLot reputation of 96/100. albertwhisker (4532)  2 years ago

On the other Hand, Nothing Else matters is actually ahit for Metallica.


myLot reputation of 89/100. lakerfanster (1304)   ranked 52 out of 2,055 in music lover  2 years ago

I love Nothing Else Matters. A fabulous track and an example of Metallica's range.


myLot reputation of 96/100. albertwhisker (4532)  2 years ago

The 1st time I heard it I thought its not metallica. Its really surprising for me.


myLot reputation of 89/100. lakerfanster (1304)   ranked 52 out of 2,055 in music lover  2 years ago

I knew it was them but I can understand why some people might not have as it is quite different to their other stuff.


myLot reputation of 96/100. albertwhisker (4532)  2 years ago

I love how they were able to mix metal with a symphonic orchestra, I think its the root of symphonic metal and its just evolved.


myLot reputation of 89/100. lakerfanster (1304)   ranked 52 out of 2,055 in music lover  2 years ago

Yeah it works really beautifully on S&M

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3. myLot reputation of 89/100. edxcast (836)   ranked 344 out of 2,055 in music lover   2 years ago

Hi albert

I dont found it so weird. Im really into some metal bands, and we could say what i listen is the softer of the metal genre which is power/symphonic and a bit of progressive metal. Most of them include ballads(which are beatifully done) though they sometimes add some heavier part and depending on the band a slick solo(example Dream Theather´s "THe Spirit Carries On"). Sometimes they are more like a rock ballad sound(example Sonata Arctica´s Tallulah). Im not into black or death metal so i couldnt talk too much about bands of that genre. Even within metal the sound from different subgenre are completely different.


myLot reputation of 96/100. albertwhisker (4532)  2 years ago

Its easier for rockbands to get softer than Metal bands but you are right, There are Metal bands who can really pull it off. As long as the album wont be bombarded with ballads, it would be okay for me, They must have a balance of upbeat tracks,Very loud tracks that gives an adrenaline rush and some ballads as a breather.


al_abellanosa (14)   ranked 1,729 out of 2,055 in music lover  2 years ago

They're just showing there soft and sentimental side. Well they are human after all. They do have emotions like us.


myLot reputation of 96/100. albertwhisker (4532)  2 years ago

Even the most toughest badass have a sensitive side, I agree about that.

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4. myLot reputation of 95/100. Rallon (478)   ranked 21 out of 2,055 in music lover   2 years ago

Funny you mention this, because "War Pigs" by Black Sabbath came on the radio today. At the very beginning, it is very soothing to the ears! While this song does not qualify as a ballad, check it out if you haven't in a while and see (or is it hear?) what I'm talking about. They match up tornado sirens to the music - very talented!


myLot reputation of 96/100. albertwhisker (4532)  2 years ago

I think having some ballads on the album is a good way of greeting the attention of the casual listeners, it makes them open minded about metal, Its like teaching a child on how to eat spicy food.


myLot reputation of 95/100. Rallon (478)   ranked 21 out of 2,055 in music lover  2 years ago

I don't have any children. But if I did I would take your advice and put habanero peppers in their milk bottle while they simultaneously wear headphones playing a hot and heavy track! Just kidding (sort of), I wouldn't want to warp their fragile little minds out of shape. Didn't realize you were supposed to teach kids to eat spicy food though. Guess I don't know much about that subject.


myLot reputation of 96/100. albertwhisker (4532)  2 years ago

mexican,Indians and Koreans were able to adapt to spicy foods easily. Its not about kids though, I just compared casual audience to children.LOL


myLot reputation of 95/100. Rallon (478)   ranked 21 out of 2,055 in music lover  2 years ago

Too late. I've got my nephews rocking out to the Red Hot Chili Peppers. Wow, kids sure dance funny!


myLot reputation of 96/100. albertwhisker (4532)  2 years ago

Red Hot Chili peppers is Punk not Metal, they were two different genres.


myLot reputation of 95/100. Rallon (478)   ranked 21 out of 2,055 in music lover  2 years ago

Yeah, just trying to be funny (my classic downfall). Wouldn't it be funny though, if they "tried" to go metal?


myLot reputation of 96/100. albertwhisker (4532)  2 years ago

WHen I was a kid I was hooked up with Punk and grunge, I was able to like Metal on my early teens. So you see its like a process of me learning to eat spicy food.

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5. myLot reputation of 90/100. Celestenicole (4523)   2 years ago

Well I would say they are probably trying to pile to more people by doing a soft music to pull others in. It might seem weird but music articles doing what they think is right for them.

You are right Metal bands are meant to be loud angry music that we sometimes can't understand but that's the beauty of a Metal band making your own meaning of the music unlike rock bands where they making it clear what they are talking about. They definitely have two different entities.


myLot reputation of 96/100. albertwhisker (4532)  2 years ago

Symphonic metal is metal sub-genre with no screaming actually. I think the they can earn needed funds and the addition of soft songs help them somehow. Plus it change the perception of the people who were not into metal.


myLot reputation of 90/100. Celestenicole (4523)  2 years ago

You are right about that. I'm not into metal like my husband is and my brothers. Thats there area of music I'm more of a rocker myself. I hope your doing well this month in mylot and your making good money here. Have a good day my friend.

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6. myLot reputation of 99/100. vivasuzi (2203)   2 years ago

Maybe they are just trying to write at least one song that will reach a broader audience. Or perhaps they want to show their softer side :) I bet you there is a manager somewhere telling the Metal band that they have to do a ballad so more people will accept them. Who knows, but I personally think if I bought a CD of Metal, I'd expect it to be all Metal.


myLot reputation of 96/100. albertwhisker (4532)  2 years ago

Yeah its a good way of showing range and you are right, they were trying to get a wider audience since we know most people dont like loud tracks.Its really amazing some bands were able to pull it off.

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7. myLot reputation of 74/100. pinhornudo (397)   ranked 532 out of 2,055 in music lover   2 years ago

Yes, they need. Because we all have feelings, why not a metal band show their?
I'm a heavy metal fan and I just like sentimental songs, they are good at it, even playing heavy music.

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8. myLot reputation of 35/100. Aviroyalavi (175)   ranked 710 out of 2,055 in music lover   2 years ago

hi albertwishker,
u r rigt der is a diff.
metal is one of d great genre, most of d people choose rock n melloody.
sme people prefer metal mee too prefer metal track's, metalica is one my fav one in dat genre.
i love korn music..................can u tell ur favorite ones ??

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9. myLot reputation of 99/100. scarlet_woman (11395)   ranked 43 out of 2,055 in music lover   2 years ago

no,some just think they do to attact a female audience.
which is why every cover band in the country plays "every rose has it's thorn" by poison.ugh..feeling sick
don't get me wrong,i like the band,but jeez enough already.

technically,poison's not metal..but it's along the same lines.

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