Harry Reid's Losing To HER???  

NO CHICKEN IN A McNUGGET??? Say it isn't so!!

Anyway, she didn't say negotiate, she didn't say bargain, she said "barter" and then gave the chicken or house painting as examples. I know doctors will sometimes give patients without insurance a break on an office call and things like that but I don't think that was what she was talking about.

Annie

So what's wrong with bartering? Bartering is an age old way of getting what you need when you lack the actual cash. My wife has bartered piano lessons for maternity clothes, baby clothes, a crib, changing table, and many other things. There's a license contractor near us that is advertising that he'll perform work in exchange for a functional car. I've fixed computers for plenty of people that could afford to pay me in exchange for services including a mechanic who fixed 2 cylinders that were misfiring in my car.

Now I've never tried bartering with a doctor myself, I haven't really been to a doctor myself in almost 10 years (knock on wood), but who's to say a doctor wouldn't be just as willing to trade his services as me, my wife, a contractor, or an automechanic? Have YOU ever tried bartering with a doctor?

On a side note I kind of rushed to respond and didn't read to the bottom about your back surgery. Good luck and I hope all goes well. Right now I'm one of those people saying I'll never have back surgery and I pray I never really need it. I was told by my chiropractor a year ago that I shouldn't lift more than 20 pounds regularly, but my son already weighs more than that so that rule is out the window.

That just made me realize, chiropractors are doctors so yeah, I've been to a doctor, but that's the only one.

Taskr: If one can barter with a lawyer (which I have; he took a backrub for clearing a case for me), surely that's on the same level as bartering with a doctor, or any other professional. I once bartered with a bus driver with some art I had on me, when I discovered I didn't have quite enough money. It was an original of mine, too!

Maggiepie
Open Mike is a category you can post ALL topics, even multiples at the same time! Have fun there! :o)

Here you go Annie:

" a rural doctor defended Lowden's comments, saying he has bartered with patients during his 26 year career.

"I have bartered with patients – for alfalfa hay, a bath tub, yard work and horse shoeing in exchange for my care," Robin L. Titus, a former Republican candidate for Senate who dropped her bid three months ago, wrote in an opinion article published in the Las Vegas Review-Journal."

http://www.foxnews.com/po...

Thanks so much for your kind wishes, Bob. This has been coming for quite some time and I said for years that I'd "never" have back surgery but it's gotten to where I just can't have a normal life anymore. I'm supposed to just have to stay overnight and the recovery shouldn't be all that long but I'll admit I'm a bit nervous. I haven't been in the hospital for over 35 years! I've visited everyone else in my family there but I haven't been the patient.

Annie

I hope to hear from you that you're all better before I go for mine, Rose! I'm not getting any kind of rods or pins put in, they're doing what's called "decompression" on three to five levels, or something like that. I'm not very good at remembering all the medical terms...lol! Anyway, I have a lot of nerve damage from the herniated discs and stenosis that's giving me a great deal of pain and numbness which has been steadily getting worse lately.

Best of luck to you with your surgery. I intend to be swimming laps before too long!

Annie

You're absolutely right. There are 3 republicans in the primaries right now and in hypothetical matchups they ALL beat Reid soundly, two of them by double digits and one by 9 points.

"Reid was the one who slipped in (at the last minute) the ability for companies to use that money to pay out their CEOs bonuses."

I'm pretty sure that was Chris Dodd. That's why he's given up on getting reelected. Of course he said he did it on orders from the Obama administration.

Dodd actually had language in the bill that would have banned more of the bonuses. But with preasure from the white house, Reid and Pelosi and others...he backed off and agreed to let Reid changed it right before the vote.

Thanks for your kind words, Lil. I already got my Vicodin prescription...lol!

Doctors may negotiate with patients, especially those without insurance, but I've never heard of any that "barter" for goods or services. Maybe they do it between other professionals or specialties - you know, I'll take out your gall bladder if you do my knee replacement - but I can hardly imagine doctors taking something like produce, baked goods or a CHICKEN for medical services. She was given several chances to clarify what she said and she stood by her words.

Annie

I'd strap a cast on somebody or check a heartbeat for some hot wings. I can't speak for anyone else though.

Laglen, isn't Ron Paul a Representative? Or did I miss his run for the Senate completely?

lmao hofferp - you are so right, I do not know where my head was. He IS a Representative. Thank you for the catch.

Sexist? Please explain! Is it sexist to point out when someone of either gender says or does something boneheaded? I'm sure you're also referring to the fact that I've been known to occasionally point out equally silly things said and done by other conservative females such as Sarah Palin and Michele Bachmann, right? Does that mean that those members who love to criticize Hillary Clinton, Janet Napolatano, Barbara Boxer and other female liberals are also sexist?

Annie

Yep

The problem we have is I don't see the Democrats being able to pull us out of this muck. At least not the ones in Congress now. The Republicans can't do it either. So here we Americans sit...stuck with a two party system..and neither party worth a dang when it comes it is elected officials.
I am fed up with both parties.

Amen, Lil!!

...Hi Iriscot, It's quite amazing who people are chosing to follow. People elected W twice with help from the stealers, he freaked up the country real good. Now Obama and his crew are trying their best, Senator Reid was demonized for helping to push through health care, for the country and they want him out. Okay, so it took seven presidents before we got semi-universal health care, and people can't see through the haziness to know that this was a good thing, keeping people from dying, decreasing emergency room costs, covering thirty million new people. The problem is that people are so afraid that "those" people are going to get something that they themselves don't want them to have for whatever reason. Interesting. This woman with the chickens, how many chickens for a flu shot, what the heck, will a pig pay for a blood test? The Republicans will keep denying reality until the cows come home and that lady uses one to pay for an MRI.

..lilwonders, Look around, the economy is making a slow recovery, you may have sat there while W mucked up everything, now you want it cleaned up in a day. Check out the stock market, headed toward 12,000, a predictor of the future no less. The White House doesn't talk about the strength of the market because there is still so much pain on main street, but the positive indicators are moving. Although there could be a double dip before we settle out. We are being pulled out of the muck, profits are increasing, anyone who wants to see will see, others, no hope anyway. Jobs are a lagging indicator, but they are going in the right direction. The electorate needs to get better informed it's scary what they refuse to see and the crap that some of them say. Take it easy.

Artisty....I did not sit on my butt during Bush...I screamed my head off at all the debt and run away spending. The wars...the patriot act...I spent a lot of time ticked off at Bush and his congress. I am still ticked off. I still see wasteful spending. I still the national debt still going up. I see politics as usual. Just a different party. We are still going to have to pay for all this debt. I don't see government making drastic cuts in their spending. Heck NONE of them understand the concept of fiscal responsibility. Which leaves us tax payers will the tab. OUr taxes are going to go up. Maybe not today or tomorrow...but they will have to go up. Why? how else is everything going to get paid for? Congress won't cut their spending enough. Oh and you may want to blame Bush for everything...and believe me Bush can be blamed for a lot....but the congress under him wrote the bills, voted on them and spent the money. That was a democratic lead congress for 4 of those years. the last four to be exact. So both sides are to blame for this mess. Both sides share the blame.
They can play point the finger all they want...but the honest truth is they both sides are to blame.

Lil I believe if you will check it was Democratic Congress the last 2 years of the Bush administration.

"it took seven presidents before we got semi-universal health care"

What? First off we've had 44 presidents. Second, this isn't anything even minutely resembling universal healthcare.

"you may have sat there while W mucked up everything"

Yes because everyone who disagrees with Obama's policies MUST have supported everything Bush did.

The last two years of Bush had a democratic congress, but the last 4 years overall have been democratic including a supermajority since 2008.

She probably does but I can't say for sure. My feelings about him are that it's pretty fitting that he's a urologist because I say, "PI$$ ON HIM!!"

Annie

I agree...Reid is sooo unpopular in his state that the republican party could run anyone and win.
I surprises me the party did not ask him NOT to run so they could run someone with a chance at winning.

I agree...the barter system is nothing new. I know doctors that take services or goods instead of money for office visits. I know poeple of a lot of different professsions do it. First...it cuts back on taxes they have to pay...you don't count the goods or service as "income". Two...they both get something they need out of the deal. Three...the doctor does not have to deal with insurance companines.
Now true...I live in the "country"....well the coastal beach. But it is a small community when the tourist are not here...so ya..we use the barter system. It works.

This is where my grandkids would be rolling their eyes and muttering, "Whatever..."...lol!

I'm certainly as far from a snob as one could get and anyone who knows me in person certainly knows that. I'm aware of the professional bartering that still goes on. I don't know if there are any doctors left in my home town that still make house calls but I know my recently retired long time family doctor from the time I was a child did not that long ago when my mom was very sick and then even more recently for my aunt. My mom occasionally gave him something she'd baked when he came on a call and there were times when he didn't charge anything for either house or office calls.

However, I still maintain that while bartering or negotiating with one's doctor may happen now and then, it sure isn't the solution for our health care crisis. It's one thing for a doctor to give a free checkup for service on his furnace but is a hospital going to accept some baked goods for an MRI, for example? Will their employees then take their salaries in canned veggies? I don't think so!

Annie