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| I often question the medical world . . . particularly the doctors of "western" medicine. Sure they have helped people, but other times I have to wonder if they're "really" helping them. Many of them frown upon other options - like alternative medicine - I don't understand why doctors seem to think they have definite answers, when they don't necessarily do. Why aren't they more open minded? For instance, my daughter has eczema. Thus far there is no cure for eczema and apparently the only place they are doing research on it is in Australia (even though more and more people are getting it). All the doctors we've been to for her have said the SAME thing about it and have offered the SAME remedies . . . and were not open to anything I said about my own research. I've been to forums about it and even they said the same thing about doctor's remedies for it - that it's only a quick fix and in the long run, their remedies will ruin your skin. So why do you think many doctors go by the textbook and "their" answer is their final answer? What makes them so sure that their remedy is the best that the modern world has to offer to cure anything? | | | | | |
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1. cmjune76 (234)
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2 years ago
| | what a great question. You certainly sound frustrated too! Many doctors do talk 'out of their textbook' and can only offer what is allowed by law and what insurance companies will cover. If you are looking for more 'outside of the box' resolve, visit a naturopath to help your daughter. | | | | | | |
much2say (2730)
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2 years ago
| | I see you sensed my frustration! Oh yes, it just really ticks me off. Yah, I have though of visiting a naturopath. Someone said it's not covered by insurance, so I don't if we can afford to, but I seriously don't want to go to any more textbook doctors who are going to tell me the same thing again. Grrrrr. | | | |
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2. kedralynn (568)
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2 years ago
| | Funny story, I saw a "nurse practitioner" last month and she actually said to me "Let me go double check my dermatology book..." I had gone in because twice that month my lips had become swollen and numb and I couldn't figure out why. I saw the nurse rather than the doctor because he wasn't available that day and I was really freaking out about possibly having an allergic reaction or something. I was not happy with the diagnosis the nurse gave me. It didn't make any sense. So I questioned it and she said "Let me go double check my dermatology book." I'm sorry what? I'm paying you to go read a book and then tell me what it says? I could've just looked up my symptoms online if that's what I wanted. She went with her own diagnosis, gave me pill for it. And guess what, the pills didn't help and it took me 2 weeks to heal. Thanks Nurse. I think doctors just get so busy sometimes, going thru one patient after another after another that they start to get desensitized and stop looking at each case individually and just go textbook with everything. I wish they'd think out of the box a little bit more. I mean I understand not wanting to take a risk on a different diagnosis and be wrong, so it's safer to go textbook. But that doesn't always help either. | | | | | | |
much2say (2730)
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2 years ago
| | Are you serious? Yah, why should you pay someone to diagnose you out of book when you could very well do that yourself, right? Heck, we might as well buy our own medical book and be our own doctors. And these lame remedies, grrr . . . I'm sorry the pills she prescribed did not help. My doctors prescribe BAD stuff for my daughter . . . I read left and right from people who have her condition that in the long run it's BAD stuff. | | | |
kedralynn (568)
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2 years ago
| | Yeah I was wondering why I was paying her to read a book. I'm sorry your daughter got bad stuff. She stopped taking it right? How is her condition now? | | | |
much2say (2730)
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2 years ago
| | Thank you for asking! Well, we used the lower dosage cream - and it worked VERY well - but only temporarily. The eczema returned. A later visit, the doctor gave us a higher dosage cream - again, it worked VERY well - but only temporarily AGAIN - and the eczema returned worse than we started. This stuff is steroidal and thins your skin if you use it long term. Bad, bad, bad. An everywhere I look online, people say to stay away from the steroidal stuff - it's a quick fix and I've read the horror stories of people who did use it long term. Well, it seems instead of looking at external fixes, now we're looking into internal fixes (like diet, stress relief, etc) . . . it's just hard - and there is no cure for this. Anyway, I think I have learned a lot more from my own research than going to the doctors and asking for their textbook advice! | | | |
kedralynn (568)
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2 years ago
| | Ah yes I know about steroidal cream and how bad it can be because yes it does thin the skin. Haha look you know more about the condition now than your doctor! Well I hope you find something that works. Have you tried lotions to treat her symptoms? I know there's a few over the counter ones that claim to calm eczema. Oatmeal scrubs and stuff. I've personally never had it so I don't know how well they work. But it's better than that steroidal cream. Good luck :) | | | |
much2say (2730)
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2 years ago
| | Oh gosh, we've tried ALL that stuff. Oatmeal bath helps sometimes and there are a lot of creams and lotions specially for eczema - but many work for a while and then maybe the body builds a tolerance and we have to try something else. I found a forum for it with everyone making suggestions as to what they use . . . so I'll have to keep trying there. Forget the doctors . . . all they know is what's in their books (no help!). | | | |
kedralynn (568)
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2 years ago
| | Oh good at least then you're getting help from people who have experienced it and they know more of what they're talking about. Doctors only know what they've been taught but they rarely experience all the illnesses they talk about. Experience is a far better teacher. | | | |
much2say (2730)
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2 years ago
| | Yes, I find that the better doctors are the ones who have gone through these issues or they knew someone personally who had gone through it . . . but how many doctors have?! If they don't know how these illnesses are "personally", they really don't know how certain people suffer . . . we can be just another number on their patient list. | | | |
kedralynn (568)
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2 years ago
| | Indeed. I just had this problem again last night. I went to the hospital for an infection that I've been dealing with on and off for the past 6 months. I knew more about my condition than the doctor did. He wasn't super helpful and I waited 2 hours for them to give me the medication I had already recommended for myself. So I pretty much paid a ton of money for a piece of paper with a prescription on it. | | | |
much2say (2730)
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2 years ago
| | Oh no! Are you ok? Was it the lip thing again? Sorry to hear the doctor wasn't too helpful . . . but I guess it was no surprise, eh? Hope you get better soon and that maybe you can find another doctor (or helpful source) to get rid of your infection once and for all. | | | |
kedralynn (568)
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2 years ago
| | Yes I'm ok now, thank you. No it's my bladder and kidneys. I've been getting infections regularly lately and I keep trying to tell each doctor I see that this is happening WAY too often and that someone needs to come up with something better to fix me. But eh they don't listen too often. I think I'm going to look for a specialist next time. If it's the only thing they doctor in, maybe they will know more? One can hope. | | | |
much2say (2730)
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2 years ago
| | Is it the UTI thing? I hear a lot of bladder/kidney things can be helped with diet (though I'm no doctor). I've had some bladder infections a while ago, but haven't in recent years - when it feels like it's going to happen, I fix it early with "diet". Hope you find a more suitable doctor and soon!! | | | |
kedralynn (568)
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2 years ago
| | I've had an UTI 3 times in the past 3 months. They're worried it's something worse like kidney stones or cysts because the infections aren't going away with regular antibiotics. So now I have to have some tests done. I tried clearing up the uti with natural means (diet, cranberry juice, water) but the pain got sooo bad I had to go to the emergency room :( Now they're pretty sure something else is wrong but no one knows for sure what that is. Not helpful! | | | |
much2say (2730)
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2 years ago
| | How about yogurt? Plain yogurt - not the flavored sugary stuff. Apparently there's good bacteria in it to help with it . . . and I eat a lot of that when I know it's coming. I heard cranberry juice can help, but on the flip side they say juice has a lot of sugar (even if it's natural, sugar is sugar), and that's something you want to avoid with an UTI. I think I read tomatoes and strawberries were also not good (acidic foods) as well as dairy. I am no doctor - but that's what I've read. I hope they find out what's wrong and can treat you soon! Sorry to hear you've been in pain!! | | | |
kedralynn (568)
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2 years ago
| | Yes I've tried it all. I've researched it online many times and tried it all because I hear you don't want to use antibiotics often as you build up a tolerance and get infections easier. I'm sort of at the mercy of the doctors now :/ | | | |
much2say (2730)
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2 years ago
| | Well, I certainly hope a remedy is found for you. Yes, you are right about antibiotics. I'll keep my fingers crossed that you get better soon! | | | |
kedralynn (568)
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2 years ago
| | Thank you hun. And I'll continue to keep mine crossed for your daughter :) | | | |
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3. stealthy (4675)
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2 years ago
| | I think some doctors do indeed have the dreaded God complex. I had a doctor who prescribed medicine for me by sending the prescription in the mail and expected me to start taking it without any chance to discuss it with him or to get answers to questions about interactions with other medicine I take and the additional load it might put on my liver, etc. I tried to talk to him about it on my next visit and he just cut me off and wouldn't listen. Then on the next visit he wanted to know why I wasn't taking it and told him it was because he wouldn't answer my questions the last time. The next thing I know, I get a letter saying he has dropped me as a patient. Doctors are not all knowing and there are some bad ones out there. One missed my mother's cancer for years. I have had several who were not able to diagnose various things I have gone to see them about and in some case I had to do it and tell them. | | | | | | |
much2say (2730)
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2 years ago
| | I don't understand all these prescription medicines. You notice on those commercials they have all these crazy side effects and even in the ads they say that you should talk to you doctor about them. That's insane that the doctor did not talk to you about it first. And it's ridiculous he dropped you as a patient! Now that I think about it, I think doctors that have prescribed me medicines didn't discuss side affects either - they just hand it to you. Sorry to hear about your mother. Yes, I think doctors and the western medicine world don't know everything . . . they're just winging it some of the times - playing God like you said. | | | |
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4. vishnumuthu (525)
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2 years ago
| | ya it is a different look and i think there will be some solution for any problem and it will be the same with the doctors and it is that they have to under the problem of us and then he have to give us the correct solution..and it is not to be a fun and there is no fun in that too so that we have to get with him so that we are in the correct route and that is really good there are many advanced in the technology and we have to trust that thing and it is really so cool..have fun.. | | | | | | |
much2say (2730)
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2 years ago
| | I understand that doctor's can't always give the correct solution - but they should at least be open to other solutions that are not in their medical books to FIND a solution for the patient. For instance, my daughter's doctor insists that diet and food has nothing to do with her condition, but I am reading that it may possibly have a lot to do with diet. And online, I have found a great deal of people who say that diet indeed affects their condition . . . so how can this doctor be correct? There has been many advancements in technology, but they haven't found the answers to everything yet . . . so we can't trust it all just yet. | | | |
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much2say (2730)
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2 years ago
| | I think I used to believe in doctors when I was a kid, but as I got older and went to the doctors on my own, I have gotten "wiser". I think doctors are knowledgeable, but that doesn't mean they know everything. I, and I'm sure you have too, have heard horror stories about being diagnosed incorrectly - so it's just so hard to ever trust these doctors. | | | |
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6. antony2best (460)
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2 years ago
| | yes i do.sometimes i find them so crazy.if you go there complaining about a small fever i don't know what all rubbish they say and what all nonesense they ask me to do.it simply shows that they have just mug up certain things and when a patient goes to them they just give out useless advices.i am not saying that what they say is wrong but i guess they say too much out of the textbooks. | | | | | | |
much2say (2730)
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2 years ago
| | Yes, I know what you mean. I remember once my husband had major pain in his chest - and we spent more than a day in the hospital as they gave him a bunch of tests . . . and NONE of them were conclusive. In fact, at one point we were waiting and waiting and waiting - and after all that my husband's chest pains went away. Then one doctor looked at him - a doctor we hadn't seen in the emergency room that day yet - and he gave him a diagnosis which took 2 seconds after looking at him (this was the only doctor that made sense to us - why couldn't we have had him in the beginning!). Oh, doctors make me so mad sometimes. | | | |
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7. palegemini (438)
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2 years ago
| | In my opinion, those certain doctors aren't always right. A select few do give a correct diagnosis. That's why a lot of patients prefer to get a second opinion. So, you posed a good point. | | | | | | |
much2say (2730)
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2 years ago
| | I think many doctors can give the correct diagnosis, but the best remedy is not given to the patients. The "best" remedy seems to be medication - left and right - final answer. Or unnecessary surgery. A second or even third opinion is always a good idea, but it's soooo frustrating with their ideas are the same. | | | |
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8. dawnald (24270)
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2 years ago
| | Because it's what they were taught... But if you can afford to, find yourself a doctor of Naturopathy, one that you're comfortable with. They may be able to help. They look at the cause of the problem. The don't just treat the symptoms. | | | | | | |
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