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myLot reputation of 96/100. carmelanirel (12195)   ranked 357 out of 32,944 in life 2 years ago

I had a problem when I tried to buy online through walmart because I saw they take paypal. Except I needed a credit card to follow through and ended up spending a little more for a product through e-bay.

Then someone mentioned that I may be able to use a virtual credit card. They said it is better to search for it than to explain it so I did. I found this link. http://www.equitipz.com/2...

My question is, how safe is this and can I use it for paypal when they want a credit card number? When I try for the credit/debit card on paypal, the only options I get is visa,mastercard, discover and american express..So if I got a virtual credit card, will it be one of these cards?

 

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tags:  paypal, virtual credit card, credit card, credit card fraud, debit
 
1. myLot reputation of 97/100. oldchem1 (3564)   ranked 266 out of 32,944 in life   2 years ago

This is an interesting concept.
I'm afraid I have not heard of these, and am not sure that they are avaiable in the UK; I will be watching the replies here with interest to see hat I can learnhappy

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2. myLot reputation of 63/100. nsj947 (265)   ranked 13,425 out of 32,944 in life   2 years ago

It is not that safe and also it has got higher transaction fees.


myLot reputation of 96/100. carmelanirel (12195)   ranked 357 out of 32,944 in life  2 years ago

Thanks nsj, so I save money in the long run by not paying high transaction fees..and it isn't safe either?? I am glad to know this, before I attempted to sign up..thumbup

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3. someofmine (55)   ranked 8,941 out of 32,944 in life   2 years ago

I have something like that in my internet bank. It is a card for online shopping only, has CVV2 and need to be loaded before using. But beside being virtual, it is just visa and yours should have service provider in description (visa, mastercard or other)
I have gotten actually nice plastic from the bank with number and big VISA written on, but without chip or anything.


myLot reputation of 96/100. carmelanirel (12195)   ranked 357 out of 32,944 in life  2 years ago

But how safe is it? nsj947 also says it has a higher transaction fee, I don't want that if I can pay that by using e-bay without the card.


someofmine (55)   ranked 8,941 out of 32,944 in life  2 years ago

I don't know about transaction fee, I have been using it only in online shops and paid no fee. I also had no fee during paypal verification.

As for safety. You see, the virtual card is empty most of the time, except a short period during transaction ( if you are careful ). I need to transfer money to the card in similar way as I transfer money to a different bank account, with use password and safe codes. After I am done with shopping, (usually a few minutes) I transfer unused money back to my bank account. So even if someone gets to may card number and cvv2 there is nothing to steal.


myLot reputation of 96/100. carmelanirel (12195)   ranked 357 out of 32,944 in life  2 years ago

So there is no fee taken out of paypal or my back account? Because if I got one it will be for online shopping only..


someofmine (55)   ranked 8,941 out of 32,944 in life  2 years ago

I do not pay fee for transaction but I do pay yearly fee for using card and I may upload and clear funds as many times I want.
Remember that different banks in different parts of the world may have different offers.
I would suggest checking the bank web site or just calling the bank.


myLot reputation of 96/100. carmelanirel (12195)   ranked 357 out of 32,944 in life  2 years ago

Oh, so there is a small fee? How much, because if it take too much out of my paypal, then I might as well go with ebay for my shopping..(darn, here I thought I found a way to shop outside ebay) :(


someofmine (55)   ranked 8,941 out of 32,944 in life  2 years ago

I am confused, why do you want to use it with your paypal in shops, it is rather used instead, like "normal" card.
I have herd, that paypal has also virtual cards but it is beta version, so use on your own risk ;)
As for fee, just ask in your bank. Mine don't tell you anything, I am from europe and my card is in euro and I get it from a local bank. You may even get it for free.



myLot reputation of 96/100. carmelanirel (12195)   ranked 357 out of 32,944 in life  2 years ago

Because I use paypal and saw on their page that walmart takes paypal..They do, except you need a credit or debit card and to get a paypal credit or debit card, I need a credit card..In other words, I can't get the normal card and would not want one except to use in paypal, which is why someone mentioned the virtual cards. So paypal has virtual cards and you would not recommend them? If that is the case, would the other "virtual cards" work with paypal? If not, I don't need them...


someofmine (55)   ranked 8,941 out of 32,944 in life  2 years ago

I get it, but I can't help you there. I don't use my card with paypal to buy from shops. I just use it directly in shops. I used it only once to send money to paypal and connect my bank account with paypal.
As far as I know, all shops and paypal see a virtual card as a real one. But mine don't last only 24 h, it has a permanent number and cvv2 but no credit and limits set manually.
The trick with paypal is, that they take a small sum during verification process and after few days sent it back. No idea how it works if a card last only 24H.
I don't want a credit card too, I had one stolen already and I don't want to go there ever again, so I understand your problem.
I am sorry, I can't help you and I do hope you will find solution.


myLot reputation of 96/100. carmelanirel (12195)   ranked 357 out of 32,944 in life  2 years ago

Actually I did, but only for shopping online for walmart. When I get my mylot payout, I transfer the money into my savings and then take that money to buy a prepaid card at walmart..That way I can buy things at walmart online that they don't carry in the store..:)

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4. myLot reputation of 99/100. Loverbear (2348)   ranked 18 out of 32,944 in life   2 years ago

From the way the article sounds, the virtual card is linked to your debit or credit card (usually the card will have a visa or master card logo on it). The big difference is that the virtual card only has the specified amount that you are spending and it is only good for 24 hours so that if someone happens to hack into your information they can't drain your bank account dry. The virtual card was developed because of the massive problem with identity theft. Anyhow after the 24 hours the amount of money that you have placed in the virtual account reverts back to your bank account and the virtual account vanishes before someone can hack into it. When you want to shop again you log into your bank, create a new card and then shop with security.


myLot reputation of 96/100. carmelanirel (12195)   ranked 357 out of 32,944 in life  2 years ago

So you got this from the link? You don't use one? What about a fee? And I'd have to recreate another card each time I use it? blink


myLot reputation of 99/100. Loverbear (2348)   ranked 18 out of 32,944 in life  2 years ago

Some of them are free according to the article that I am going to post the "un" link to. The funny thing is they've been around for about 7 years. You can use the virtual credit card for 24 hours or with a certain merchant (depending on the virtual credit card issuer)after the period of time they expire and yes you'll need to get a new one for the next shopping spree.

I don't remember if this is the same article, but here's the site:

http://seekingalpha.com/a...


myLot reputation of 96/100. carmelanirel (12195)   ranked 357 out of 32,944 in life  2 years ago

thanks loverbear..:)


myLot reputation of 99/100. Loverbear (2348)   ranked 18 out of 32,944 in life  2 years ago

Something I did until I got my other card (a Wal Mart money card) was to buy the prepaid credit cards. I learned the hard way about identity theft, but fortunately didn't lose too much. I had called a school I went to in Montana, used my debit card to pay for the transcripts and someone started trying to use the number to buy expensive stereo equipment. Fortunately my bank was very observant and notified me immediately about the attempt at charges...and they refused them as soon as they were sent to the bank. It was a mess but I managed to clear it up within a few days and had to wait two weeks for a new debit card. But I got very shy about using the card on the phone and the net.

One thing for you to watch for, and that is "security" for any of the online sites you buy from. If you are to the check out stage, watch for an "s" will appear in the address line (http://sebay.com for example)so that you know that there it is a secure site. Also in the page there will be a logo showing that it is a secure site for you to be able to use your credit card. I went through an "E" commerce class last spring and got all the information about dealing with transactions on the internet. I usually only deal with three or four businesses on line so I don't worry too much about my information getting intercepted. But I keep a close watch on what goes on with my cards anyhow. But those two simple things to watch for, the "s" in the address when you check out while buying something (s is for secure) and the logo showing secure or trusted site somewhere in the check out area are two really important things to keep your eyes open for.

Enough of the lesson for today!rofl I hope I've helped you some...


myLot reputation of 96/100. carmelanirel (12195)   ranked 357 out of 32,944 in life  2 years ago

Yeah, I am beginning to see maybe I should just stick with ebay..Though the prices are higher, it's better to be safe..Thanks loverbear..:)


myLot reputation of 99/100. Loverbear (2348)   ranked 18 out of 32,944 in life  2 years ago

Give me a couple of days to locate the logos for the secure sites and post them for you to see. Those sites that have secure check out area are okay to use personal debit or credit cards.

Amazon, Overstock.com, and any major department store is fine to shop on. I use Amazon a lot, and have ordered from overstock before.

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5. myLot reputation of 95/100. Hatley (48711)   ranked 958 out of 32,944 in life   2 years ago

hi carmelanirel no its its own card and the site you gave said it is
the safest way to shop but its only good for a certain number of
hours and you have to designate the amount you need. sounds like a
winner to me, why not try it and see if it works for what you want
'it for.thumbupthumbup


myLot reputation of 96/100. carmelanirel (12195)   ranked 357 out of 32,944 in life  2 years ago

I might do this next time if I get enough thumbs up on it..So far I have one that says they charge you a fee and another that says they don't..And loverbear says it only lasts for 24 hours, so I will have to wait until I find something else to buy because I already bought the item I wanted on ebay..

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6. myLot reputation of 97/100. Pose123 (8254)   ranked 73 out of 32,944 in life   2 years ago

Hi carmel, I haven't heard of these cards either and came here to see what others have to say. It appears that it would be best to stay away from them or at least that's the conclusion that I've reached. Probably someday it will be different as we know things are always changing. Blessings.


myLot reputation of 96/100. carmelanirel (12195)   ranked 357 out of 32,944 in life  2 years ago

Hi Pose...From what I have gathered, 2 people have used them, one says there is a fee and another says there isn't. Then loverbear says it only lasts for 24 hours, that way if someone hacked into my account, they can't get any money. so if that is the case, I might get one right before buying something so I can buy it and then I think to do it again I have to recreate another one..I was confused on that part and really hope someone who regularly uses it will clear it all up...


myLot reputation of 96/100. simpl3_m319 (359)  1 year ago

Hi there, I don't know if it is being paranoid or what, but if we are to link this virtual credit cards to our paypal or other bank accounts, then does that mean it can also be used by someone hacking into our accounts to transfer our own money? And since we are not able to use it after a designated time of use, then we will not be the one using our money from our accounts?

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7. myLot reputation of 99/100. Opal26 (14496)   ranked 376 out of 32,944 in life   2 years ago

Hi carmel! I don't quite know what you're talking about with
this "Virtual Credit Card" stuff! I have a "real" credit card"
and am happy to have it and watch over it carefully like it was
one of my babies (or even more carefully)! I will never be able
to get credit again so must protect the credit cards that I have!
But, don't deal with debit cards or virtual anything! I have
enough trouble dealng with my checking account as it is with these
"electronic debits and credits"!Those are as "virtual" as I want
to get!lol


myLot reputation of 96/100. carmelanirel (12195)   ranked 357 out of 32,944 in life  2 years ago

I don't want any credit card, they caused a nightmare we finally got away from. So supposedly this virtual credit card I can make paypal payments to places like wal mart, but still don't have a for sure thing on how good it is..I still have time before I buy anything since I already used most of the money I had. So hopefully within the next few weeks I can find out more about it..

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8. myLot reputation of 89/100. snowdoll487 (2965)   2 years ago

This are the important pointers for you, excerpts from the link you've given:

The card will be valid only for a particular period of time, valid for 24 hours. So, you need to use it within that time frame. You need to complete a transaction within 24 hours.

Once a transaction has been completed successfully, the card cannot be used a second time.

As for how I understood the article, you will need to load the VCC card with the amount you want to spend. If the item is worth 5k then you load your VCC 5k. It is somewhat linked to your DEBIT card. So its like shopping and paying in cash. :P


myLot reputation of 96/100. carmelanirel (12195)   ranked 357 out of 32,944 in life  2 years ago

When you say "Linked to my debit card" you mean an online card correct? If so, this might be the way for me to shop online when a business doesn't take paypal..that's great..thumbupthumbup

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9. myLot reputation of 100/100. schulzie (2453)   ranked 85 out of 32,944 in life   2 years ago

I've never actually heard of this before. It sounds pretty interesting though. I wonder how safe it is myself. I mean, wouldn't it be easier for someone to do credit card fraud if they didn't actually have to present the card itself for payment? I don't know about this...

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Have a great day and happy myLotting!!!

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myLot reputation of 96/100. carmelanirel (12195)   ranked 357 out of 32,944 in life  2 years ago

Well, if it good for only 24 hours, and you use a very strong password, then I think it should be safe..I was also worried about fees, but that doesn't seem to apply..

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10. myLot reputation of 93/100. rosie230 (1235)   ranked 478 out of 32,944 in life   2 years ago

as far as i am aware these virtual cards are supposed to be a lot safer than the noral plastic card, because they cannot be found, like plastic cards etc.... I know of one site, that gives you a free virtual Credit Card, and you can reload it, or transfer the balance and use it online... whatever you want, I am in the UK, and it was not a problem for me to get mine from this site :) Anyway if you want a virtual Credit Card go here.... www.entropay.com


myLot reputation of 96/100. carmelanirel (12195)   ranked 357 out of 32,944 in life  2 years ago

Thanks rose, I bookmarked this site as well..:)


myLot reputation of 93/100. rosie230 (1235)   ranked 478 out of 32,944 in life  2 years ago

it is pretty good, it seems to be the only good one i have found.. you can also get a plastic pre paid card too from here, costs £4.99, but they send it out to you... might be handy to have

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