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myLot reputation of 96/100. carmelanirel (12208)   ranked 357 out of 32,950 in life 2 years ago

I lived in this community for over 20 years and we could never afford the trash service. So I do a lot of composting and recycling, making a small amount of trash that can be disposed of for less cost..Well, I found out that instead of having a large truck come in once a week, the community past a vote, (which I heard they changed the rules on how a vote passes), that they will have their own trash pick up. Instead of once a week, a smaller truck will come around 4-5 days a week, dividing up sections of the community. This will start June 1.

They did this because having the independent service come in once a week was destroying our roads. (our roads by the way, which are not fixed properly in the first place)Then a couple days ago, I found out this service is mandatory. In other words, we are going to be charged whether we use the service or not. We are already having financial problems and this extra 50.00 every three months will hurt us, as we are barely making it from paycheck to paycheck. I don't know if we can ask them to not charge us, but I think it is worth a call..In the meantime, I am sitting here and saw they are dropping off trash cans, (which some are not happy with since they only get one can) and feel this is wrong..

I don't know how it works in town, but being more out in the country, I don't think they should force us to use this service. I mean what are they going to do if we can't afford to pay? Still add on the charges? angry

 

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1. myLot reputation of 96/100. sulsisels (948)   ranked 6,341 out of 32,950 in life   2 years ago

Hi Carm..We have the same problem here and I am always talking to my neighbors about it. In Ft Lauderdale, we too are forced to have garbage pick up. The way the city gets around people not paying is they incorporate the charges. which by the way is 54.00 per month for two pick ups a week, with our water bill. So, if you dont pay, your water gets shut off. I hate it. First of all, I dont need two pick ups a week, one would be fine. I called City Hall to inquire about whether or not we had a choice of one pick up and a lesser charge and they laughed at me. No, you do not have a choice..My water bill here runs 100 per month. Only 24 dollars is for water usage and the rest is trash and taxes..its ridiculous and I can't afford it either but have no choice. If they shut your water off, then what and also you have a 50.00 reconnect fee. They have you by the short hairs as they say and there is not a damn thing you can do about it..j


myLot reputation of 96/100. carmelanirel (12208)   ranked 357 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

What??? Twice a week??? Wow...Then again in the city I guess you can't really compost much, but do they provide free recycling? This is another thing I am worried about. The independent company provided free recycling, does this mean I will no longer have this service..I guess I should call about this too...thumbdownthumbdown

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2. myLot reputation of 84/100. frontvisions101 (9932)   ranked 1,624 out of 32,950 in life   2 years ago

For all i know, they should be paying you for your trash. It's wrong that you have to pay for the service what's more considering It's mandatory.. Good to know your neighbors are making a move against it. If it happened here, i'll be the one who'll pass a vote against it.


myLot reputation of 96/100. carmelanirel (12208)   ranked 357 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

Oh no, you don't understand, this past..Most of who voted voted for it, not against it. And I disagree, if I did want this service, I should pay, but I don't want this service..


myLot reputation of 84/100. frontvisions101 (9932)   ranked 1,624 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

Oh, sorry. Well, what are your plans now?


myLot reputation of 96/100. carmelanirel (12208)   ranked 357 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

The only plan is to call, see if we can not be on their list and ask about the recycling.. From what I gathered and knowing this community, we probably will have to pay for it..Nothing we can do..thumbdown

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3. myLot reputation of 99/100. Loverbear (2354)   ranked 18 out of 32,950 in life   2 years ago

Your area can take you to court to make you pay the charges. I've seen it happen in my community about charges for road improvements. It usually forces the people here to sell their property.

I am wondering if a group of you can't get together to combine your small amounts of garbage. Instead of say, five of you having individual cans, the five of you group together to use one can and split the costs five ways? Bill and I live out in the country where we don't have trash pick up so we haul our own trash. I do a lot of recycling and we take our trash into town with us and drop it in trash cans in the area...like at Wal Mart, the gas stations etc. I also drop my trash at my sister's apartment complex where there is the huge dumpsters.

Does the community meetings follow Robert's Rules of Order? Is it specified in their by-laws or whatever they wrote as a guideline for their meetings? If so, they cannot legally change the way a vote is passed.

Call the people and be honest about your situation. Also see if you could form a trash co-op like I suggested. Usually there are people that don't generate a huge amount of trash that can't afford that kind of bill.


myLot reputation of 96/100. carmelanirel (12208)   ranked 357 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

Oh I don't doubt it at all...I don't know if combining will be legal.. My daughter was telling me that one time her b/f couldn't pay the bill and he asked his one neighbor if he could set his out with his..The neighbor agreed, but another neighbor saw him carrying his trash to the other curb and called the trash collector about it.
Her b/f had to pay for them to pick it up, even though the neighbor said it was ok.

We are already having problems with this community and I know many people who were able to get out and some like us who are stuck here. As for following rules??? No, it seems they make up and change rules whenever they can. They also had a couple of bad managers that stoled from them, and one manager was working trying to buy us out when we had some really bad problems going on..So needless to say, mankind can take advantage when in power and that is what happens here. We are few in number who don't agree with how they run things..

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4. myLot reputation of 99/100. writersedge (7230)   ranked 137 out of 32,950 in life   2 years ago

We have many options here. Bring our own garbage to the dump in our own truck, car, or van. Hire someone from a large company. Or hire somone from a small company. The dump is less than 4 miles away. Our garbage is only taken away once a week. We half to 2/3rds fill the trash can and we fill the recycling bucket.

Doesn't this come as taxation without representation?

Your trash should be based on how much you put out there. I can't imagine putting trash out 4 or 5 days a week. We don't make that much. There has to be a way around it. What about poor people with fixed incomes, minium wage people, the elderly, etc. ?You have from now until June 1 to protest. They should be encouraging people to reduce, reuse, and recycle, not have so much garbage that a truck needs to come every day. Talk about encouraging waste! The extra gas to run trucks many days. This sounds almost as riduculous as the sign for every curve.


myLot reputation of 99/100. writersedge (7230)   ranked 137 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

We have free recycling, too. This worries me for the future. But since we have our own well, they can't combine it with water, yet.


myLot reputation of 96/100. carmelanirel (12208)   ranked 357 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

As little trash we make, our neighbor makes about 4 times the amount..You know those huge cans you see at the curb from a trash collectors business? My one neighbor will fill 2 or 3 of those and sometimes have a couple extra bags on top of that..shocked And they only have 2 boys, except this year their one son is off to college.

We on the other hand, if we had a can like that, (which we do now..) it would take us 3-4 weeks to fill one can...


myLot reputation of 99/100. writersedge (7230)   ranked 137 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

We asked our trash company if they could take less money since we don't fill the thing very often. They said yes. You situation seems like a menopoly and the government getting into things where it does not belong.


myLot reputation of 96/100. carmelanirel (12208)   ranked 357 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

Actually I believe it is more like the board out here that is pushing things on us like this. Though I will ask this, because if they only pick up once a month, that may cut the cost a lot..Though I hate to be negative, I don't see them cooperating with us, it is how they always have been...angry My husband calls it another chain they hooked us with to keep us from leaving or at least leaving without losing everything..


myLot reputation of 99/100. writersedge (7230)   ranked 137 out of 32,950 in life  2 years ago

You would think, in this day and age, when people are really strapped for money, that they would try to do different things for you that cost you less, not more.

Thanks for best response. Let us know how things turn out and take care.

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5. myLot reputation of 98/100. sweetgirl_k1 (3429)   ranked 487 out of 32,950 in life   2 years ago

We pay (with our house taxes) for the cost of garbage pick up. They come once a week where we live and pick up our trash. Another truck will come by with claws that picks up stuff sitting on the side of the road such as furniture, metal, and anything else big that the trash people don't pick up. I'm kinda upset that they don't give us a recycle box though. I wish they would. Maybe I need to call and request that they do that in our neighborhood. Nobody out here has a recycle bin.

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