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myLot reputation of 93/100. cloudwatcher (3239)   ranked 1 out of 32 in child development3 years ago

Should we encourage our children to believe in Santa? Or is it teaching them to tell lies? How do you "excuse" the lie you told them when they find out the truth?
I know of a number of children who were badly affected when they found their parents had been telling them a lie regarding Santa. Some children have become suspicious of what is told them about other things, simply because of this lie. ... While we told our children the story of Saint Nicholas, and encouraged the joy of giving and helping others, Santa was never considered as real.
What has been your experience?

 
 
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1. myLot reputation of 83/100. tableknife1982 (1572)   ranked 4 out of 32 in child development   3 years ago

yes~ children also have good dream . so let us give some good dream to them~


myLot reputation of 93/100. cloudwatcher (3239)   ranked 1 out of 32 in child development  3 years ago

Thank you for your comment, tableknife. Dreams are good. Without dreams, goals, and such there would be no purpose to life. However, fact needs to be taken into consideration. Dreams based on fiction will achieve nothing. Birthdays can be enjoyable and exciting without Santa, so why can't Christmas? My five sons all had great "dreams" and have achieved much. They all have at least one university degree, are happy in their chosen vocations, are happily married and bringing up happy, well-adjusted families.


myLot reputation of 80/100. aggiejoe (549)   ranked 31 out of 32 in child development  3 years ago

As old as my kids are 10 & 12 they believe in santa. But they know the real story of santa. also. That way they are prepared for when they stop beleaving. I don't think there any thing wrong for kids to beleave in something good like santa it makes all the bad things bareable.

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2. myLot reputation of 98/100. Darkwing (7519)   ranked 14 out of 32 in child development   3 years ago

I never had a problem with this. If you don't tell your children there is a Santa, then the magic of Christmas is dead anyway.

Those who believe in Santa experience all the excitement and magic, and in my experience, have just accepted the fact when they find out he doesn't exist, and carry the tradition on with their own children.

Maybe these reactions you talk about are ones of disappointment rather than distruct... anger, that Santa won't be coming to them any more. They'll soon come to accept it.
I think children should believe... sorry.:-)


Happy Christmas

myLot reputation of 93/100. cloudwatcher (3239)   ranked 1 out of 32 in child development  3 years ago

Darkwing, my children never missed out on the "magic" of Christmas. They had just as exciting a time as others who believed in Santa.


myLot reputation of 98/100. Darkwing (7519)   ranked 14 out of 32 in child development  3 years ago

Hi Cloud

I'm very pleased to hear that you found an alternative way to bring magic into your children's lives. You've done a marvellous job. Your role as a mother must be a very devoted one, when other children probably want to know why Santa doesn't come to yours, but hey, that's fine... you saved telling your kids a lie, which was your intention, and I find that very commendable.

Happy Christmas!


myLot reputation of 93/100. cloudwatcher (3239)   ranked 1 out of 32 in child development  3 years ago

Thanks for the comment Darkwing.

Happy CHRISTmas to you!

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3. myLot reputation of 40/100. redyellowblackdog (3984)   ranked 25 out of 32 in child development   3 years ago

Many children are much more perceptive and intelligent than some adults imagine. For this reason alone, children should not be told the Santa Claus lie. Many children do question other things their parents tell them because of the Santa Clause lie. I agree that some children start to not trust what their parents tell them about other things because of the Santa Claus lie. The Santa Clause lie teaches children that their parents will lie to them when the parents deem it for the children's own good. The children conclude the parents have no trust in their ability to evaluate information. This can be perceived as a lack of respect. This lack of respect becomes a 2 way street. It can set a pattern that lasts a life time.

So, you think no child ever has thoughts like these? I assure you that you are wrong. It is for those of you that think a child can not have such thoughts that I wrote, "Many children are much more perceptive and intelligent than some adults imagine.".


myLot reputation of 93/100. cloudwatcher (3239)   ranked 1 out of 32 in child development  3 years ago

Thank you, redyellowblackdog. Exactly what I have found in children. I know my children didn't miss any of the "magic" of Christmas through not believing in Santa. (by the way, how did you come up with the name redyellowblackdog?)


myLot reputation of 40/100. redyellowblackdog (3984)   ranked 25 out of 32 in child development  3 years ago

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myLot reputation of 40/100. redyellowblackdog (3984)   ranked 25 out of 32 in child development  3 years ago

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myLot reputation of 76/100. Force_Fed (579)  3 years ago

This is my thought exactly. When the children learn the lie, what else will they distrust about what they've been told by their parents. Drugs? Sex? MAybe even religion?

You should never lie to your kids.

Force


myLot reputation of 93/100. cloudwatcher (3239)   ranked 1 out of 32 in child development  3 years ago

Thanks for your comments Force Fed (forgive me if that is the wrong myLot name: isn't it annoying that you can't see it when replying?!!) I agree.

And thank you Redyellowblack dog for the explanation. Good one!

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4. myLot reputation of 19/100. treblem (323)   ranked 22 out of 32 in child development   3 years ago

if u really believe the Scriptures then u would expose the lies. santa is a hoax. teach ur children the Scriptures and not the lies. have a nice day!!!


myLot reputation of 93/100. cloudwatcher (3239)   ranked 1 out of 32 in child development  3 years ago

Exactly. This is why Santa has never been a part of Christmas in our family. The Christmas story is enough and Christmas has never lost a thing because of having no Santa.

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5. myLot reputation of 80/100. Meljep (1345)   ranked 23 out of 32 in child development   3 years ago

If you tell your children that Santa helps you get them gifts, or maybe that you help Santa give them gifts it wouldn't be such a big shock later for them to find out that Santa is mythical.


myLot reputation of 93/100. cloudwatcher (3239)   ranked 1 out of 32 in child development  3 years ago

It doesn't alter the fact that you have told them a lie. It isn't it always better to tell the truth? Then in something that matters, they have trust in you.

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6. myLot reputation of 94/100. DeeBloomers (533)   ranked 19 out of 32 in child development   3 years ago

Yeh, why shouldn't we encourage our children to believe in Santa? Didn't you? Can't you remember how wonderful and magical it felt? I do, and when I was old enough that I realized the truth, I understood why my parents went along with it and I wasn't even brain damaged or anything! Besides that Santa Claus or Chris Kringle was a real man! He loved children and loved to give them little treats to make them happy. He was a kind and loving man and did this until he died.
So who is really lying? I do think that our children should be taught about Jesus's Birth too, but unfortunately not everyone feels that way and I am told that is their right.


myLot reputation of 93/100. cloudwatcher (3239)   ranked 1 out of 32 in child development  3 years ago

No, I didn't have santa in my young life. Firstly, my childhood was war time England and secondly I was in an abused situation.

I taught my children about Nicholas and his good deeds, but for us the truth of the Christmas story was enough to make Christmas a very happy time. My children were not deprived of anything by not believing in santa.

They were taught that truth is always best.

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7. myLot reputation of 64/100. clownfish (1908)   ranked 20 out of 32 in child development   3 years ago

Hi! Well, I don't want to tell my daughter about santa because I agree, it is a lie and she could be very angry later when she gets older and finds that out. Santa scared me when I was a kid. I can't imagine that being fun for little kids. I think kids are better off without that lie. I hope I can keep my daughter from it.


myLot reputation of 93/100. cloudwatcher (3239)   ranked 1 out of 32 in child development  3 years ago

Thanks clownfish. I believe there is enough excitement in Christmas without having to tell lies. Kids don't need a santa in order to celebrate their birthday, so why do they at Christmas?

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8. kregink (32)   3 years ago

I guess it depends on the age of the child. A very young child also thinks that "Barney" is real. Are you going to tell that child that he's just an under paid actor in a purple suit? A child's imagination is the most important tool he/she has. It teaches them to think beyond the boundaries. Don't crush that!


myLot reputation of 93/100. cloudwatcher (3239)   ranked 1 out of 32 in child development  3 years ago

Most young kids do not believe that cartoon characters are real and know the difference between fantasy and fact. To actually TELL a child that santa is real, and to say that santa has given them a gift is a different matter.

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9. myLot reputation of 64/100. omair631 (620)   3 years ago

its all childrens imagiantion and its their own world so i think let it be .
after some time when they get bit adult they relize the relity them selves...


myLot reputation of 93/100. cloudwatcher (3239)   ranked 1 out of 32 in child development  3 years ago

There is nothing wrong with imagination or fantasy. It is healthy. There is a difference, though, in TELLING children something is REAL and TRUE when it is NOT!

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10. myLot reputation of 21/100. gwaring (1404)   3 years ago

I think even it a kid suspects there is no Santa that they still like to pretend as much as adults do. Is any kid going to deney the presents that Santa brings.

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