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myLot reputation of 89/100. babykay (1295)4 years ago

In Ireland recently, an older man in his 60's had a break in at his isolated farm. The burglar was in his 40's and had many convictions for violence and theft. The farmer shot the burglar, beat him and then shot him again as he was on the ground, causing his death. The farmer had been the previous victim of burglary and theft, neighbours of his had been severely beaten and died at the hands of burgulars. The debate rages in Ireland at the moment, mainly because the burglar was a member of a group called the "Irish Traveller" also known as the Gypsies, Tinkers among other names. This group are responsible for many crimes, both real and not proven.

This group are well known in America as scam artists who do odd jobs on people's houses such as paving and roof jobs but the work is either uncompleted or substandard.

So, is it ok to shoot and kill an intruder on your property? If the intruder has been disabled is it ok to shoot them again, killing them?

 
 
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Signal20 (1830) response was accepted on 8/12/2007.
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tags:  kill, intruder, murder, self defence, intruders
 
1. myLot reputation of 83/100. nobodyspecial (933)   4 years ago

Well, I can't speak for all of America, but...

An officer told me one time that if there came about an event where I felt the use of firearms was appropriate in defending my life and property to 'if you shoot him, make sure he's dead'.

Seems that someone bent on stealing or harming you if injured on your property has the right to sue you for damages.

Yep, sounds pretty dumb don't it?


myLot reputation of 56/100. inu6080 (695)  4 years ago

No Police Officer told you that.
the only way you can use deadly force is if the intruder is
armed and you fear for you life.


myLot reputation of 92/100. theaterjunkie (308)  4 years ago

[[An officer told me one time that if there came about an event where I felt the use of firearms was appropriate in defending my life]]

She just said that though, if she feared for her life.


myLot reputation of 92/100. Vladilyich (1111)  3 years ago

In the state of Kentucky, it is permissable to kill an intruder INSIDE YOUR HOME. I was told by a police officer that if they fall back outside or you shoot them as they come through a window, pull them inside before calling the police.

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2. myLot reputation of 93/100. onesiobhan (1239)   4 years ago

I think it's ok to defend yourself. If you have reason to believe the person is going to assault you then you have to do what you need to protect your own life and safety.

I don't think you should be able to kill people just for trespassing.

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3. myLot reputation of 62/100. guito2005 (152)   4 years ago

I don't believe it's necessary to shoot to kill, just make the intruder very incapacitate, (ex tazers)


myLot reputation of 98/100. design (659)  4 years ago

I agree with shoot to injure.Had a break-in 2 yrs ago and can tell you i would certinly injure/(kill) if necessary to protect my family. Also Well done to the farmer and to the jury, job well done for once in this Country.

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4. myLot reputation of 80/100. fyrescryer (601)   4 years ago

Yes i believe you should be able to shot an intruder, however after i shot them i would call the police, and have them come and get him, i would not continue to beat him, as long as the first shot took him down and made him harmless towards me than i would leave it at that because i am pretty sure that he would have gotten the message to never mess with me again.

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5. myLot reputation of 84/100. coolme_kiran (879)   4 years ago

killing in self-defense is justifiable.but once the intruder has becomes submissive,its best to call a cop and hand him over to the law.

 
6. myLot reputation of 92/100. Celanith (1854)   4 years ago

I think that this farmer did what he had to do. The burgerler was younger, who is to say that he would not have recovered enough to kill the old man. Or that if he had not killed him the old man would have been sued by the burgerler and his family for injuries etc. We live in a sue happy world where a theif has and can sue someone for injuries even though they caused the incident.


myLot reputation of 89/100. babykay (1295)  4 years ago

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7. myLot reputation of 92/100. brokentia (7815)   4 years ago

If there is a fear for your life, yes, I think one should be able to shot an intruder. But there is a line there. If intruder is clearly no longer a threat and on the ground, one would have no reason to beat and shoot the inturder again. That is when the police should be involved and hopefully justice would then be served.


myLot reputation of 91/100. medooley (1852)  4 years ago

I agree with you totally! If you fear for your life or the live of your loved ones, yes... in a heart beat. But what the guy did after he was down, beating him and then shooting them once more... that crosses the line.

 
8. myLot reputation of 25/100. bkwiatv1 (537)   4 years ago

yes aslong as it is in self dhich shouldnt be to hard to prove.

 
9. masterdvrsgirl (61)   4 years ago

I think that if I was the farmer I would have done the same thing. It may not have been right, but when you're That old and isolated and your neighbors died, you're scared at that point. You do the first thing that comes to mind and it could have been a kill or be killed.. I wouldn't have wanted to be killed soo...

 
10. myLot reputation of 94/100. dellakitty (609)   4 years ago

I don't normally think that is right in any form but I can't imagine the fright of seeing an intruder in the house so I wouldn't blame someone for killing an intruder.

 
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