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myLot reputation of 70/100. twistedvanilla (205)3 years ago

I really wish that there was such a thing as boot camp for kids. My kids seem to think they run things and no matter what I do I can't get any respect from them, especially lately. My 11 year old wants to talk on the phone all the time and whenever I ask her to pick up after herself, let alone do something like vacuum or a load of dishes, it turns into a fight. My 9 year old is just as bad, but she takes it a step further and has tantrums. I am a firm believer in spanking, and I've also taken away toys, television priveleges, phone priveleges, etc, and nothing seems to work. They might cry for 2 seconds after a spanking but I take away toys or priveleges....my 11 year old actually told me she didnt care because she would get new stuff from grandma or her friends, and that I couldn't guard the tv or the phone forever. My 9 year old told me that I'm not allowed to spank them because thats abuse and she'll tell on me! She got spanked for that one, just on principle, and I had a conversation with her teacher. My son....well lets just say him being the 'baby' and teh only boy, his daddy doesnt think he can do anything wrong. I am at my wits end here, but maybe you can see why I wish there was a boot camp for kids. Any thoughts?

 
 
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Asylum (3382) response was accepted on 12/31/2006.
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tags:  children, discipline, boot camp, family, spanking
 
1. myLot reputation of 98/100. ossie16d (6332)   3 years ago

Initially I had a laugh at this one twistedvanilla but decided I would take a couple of days to think about this one before responding.

Firstly you and your husband have to agree on how you will approach the issue of discipline as well as what the children can and cannot do. You must present a united front and if for some reason your husband will not talk about the problems, then maybe you need a bit of time by yourself away from home while he looks after the children. Even a day out shopping or visiting a friend will help you and perhaps highlight to your husband what is going on.

Tell grandma that no more presents unless they are for a specific event, i.e. birthday and Christmas and you want to limit what she buys or the amount she spends. If she spends more, then she can put the additional amount into a trust account for the child when she goes on the University or whatever as a mature adult.

Remember that now you have an 11 year old but another just 2 years behind in age. So if the 11 year old is using the phone continually now, you will have no chance of using it yourself in 2 years when you will have 2 of them fighting over the use of it. So, suggest that the 11 year old can make say 2 phone calls of 10 minutes each per day between certain times (5.00 - 6.00 p.m.). Talk to the parents of the children she phones and ask for them to support you on this matter.

Television, no television until after all homework has been done. Television is only turned on between say 6 - 8.00 p.m. and then they go to bed. They can read a book till it is time to put the light out. You don't need to buard the TV, but instead unplug it at the wall and remove the remote control or at least don't leave it around where they can find it.

When the 9 year old has tantrums, take a video of her doing so, if you have a video camera that is. If not, see if you can borrow one. Then show the video during the family television hour and see what happens.
Check their diet, know who their friends are and what they are like. You set down some rules yourself. They have certain things to do every day, i.e. make their bed, clean their rooms, uniforms to the laundry or whatever. They get a point for doing every time they do it properly without arguing, throwing a tantrum or anything like. Set up a chart and tick each item off every day in their presence and for everything that they do every day without any drama means that they get a bonus at the end of the week. These points can be converted to pocket money, a special treat or whatever but you decide what it is worth and not the children.

If you cannot sort out these issues now, they will lead you a real merry dance in a couple of years as they go through puberty. Be strong and don't let the children get you down as you are the adult and they are the children not the other way around. If you try some of these and stick with them, you will actually have your own boot camp at home.

Good luck. :)


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myLot reputation of 70/100. twistedvanilla (205)  3 years ago

Thanks for the input, I guess I didn't make myself very clear. I spank, I take away priveleges and I stick to it, I have done everything 'by the book' exactly the way I should, and my girls don't care! Chore charts, allowance, groundings, etc etc etc - nothing seems to work for me. They behave beautifully for other people. Just with me, they fight me tooth and nail.


myLot reputation of 98/100. ossie16d (6332)  3 years ago

You are the adult and they are the children twistedvanilla so you make the rules and stick with them. Persevere, eventhough at times you will feel like giving in just for some peace but that way you don't gain anything. Friends of ours have a saying "as long as the adults win" and this was when their children would attempt something when we were looking after them. :)

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2. myLot reputation of 85/100. harcab (983)   3 years ago

You need not pay for boot camp. You should consider yourself as the camp master. Without anger, simply take the authority that is yours and hand out the disciplinary actions that are correct. Do not back down and cancel your own actions. If you cancel TV for a week for a child, be sure that he does not see TV for the entire week, even if he becomes very sweet before the week is ended or if he becomes angry and pouts. Stick to your decisions.

There are boot camps for kids. Still, you need to have authority yourself.


myLot reputation of 70/100. twistedvanilla (205)  3 years ago

thanks for your input.

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3. myLot reputation of 44/100. mamabulldog60 (335)   3 years ago

Create your own boot camp, set up chores and consequence and carry them out, without fail, YOU are the adult not they, THEY are dependent on YOU. Tell grandparents of the plans if they don't get on board, gracefully tell them to BUTT out. Cancel the home phone get a cell for the adults in the house. YOU do control the tv blaock all but the news channel or whatever the adults watch. Sure they will throw a fit but it won't last long. Why inflict the little darlings on a boot camp if you won;'t control them, mind you eventually society will control them, you know judges/jail and such.


myLot reputation of 70/100. twistedvanilla (205)  3 years ago

thanks for your input

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4. myLot reputation of 96/100. Asylum (3382)   3 years ago

This is a very common problem nowadays, mainly because the governments have had the audacity to remove the rights from a parent to chastise their children properly. It may sound like the babblings of an old man, but when I was a child I would be in very serious trouble if I misbehaved, and I would never have dared to answer my parents back. This was sufficient to make me behave until I was mature enough to make my own decisions, and of course by then my upbringing had taught me right from wrong.
We do not require boot camps, just governments that realise that parents have the right to bring up their children. It becomes even more infuriating when someone turns to crime and you hear "I blame the parents".


myLot reputation of 70/100. twistedvanilla (205)  3 years ago

Thanks so much for your response - that's exactly how I feel.

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5. myLot reputation of 99/100. Trace86 (3407)   3 years ago

We actually sent our son to a boot camp for misbehaving teens in the wilds of Utah. If the kids tried to run away, they wouldn't get very far as the camp was in the middle of nowhere and surrounded by mountains. The nearest town was an hour by car.
He shaped up some, but is still a lazy slug at times.
The only downside, it cost 20 grand and we had to go out there for family week.

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6. myLot reputation of 87/100. sarah22 (2787)   3 years ago

they have one in once state i beleive but you as a parent need to get them to understand that, your the mothers and what you say goes.thats great you spank them, thats not abuse unless you beat them and your not like that.

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7. myLot reputation of 56/100. LouiseK (782)   3 years ago

I am so tired of hearing that a Spanking is child abuse. The Bible says "spare the rod spoil the child"
It does not say check with child to see if they will report you!

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