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myLot reputation of 30/100. YummyLingo (113)   ranked 8,016 out of 27,468 in mylot.com 6 years ago

Above all else, let me make this clear. these are my views, and i give substantial evidence for my view. anyone may counter it, but make it reasonable please.....

gays. yes, a lot of people on my lot support them. they say that it's wrong to persecute them. they say it's normal, and that they should be accepted into society.

i disagree with this completely.

and i have reasons.

i shall proceed systematically.

i start with a very strong comparison, please don't take this literally.

serial killers. they seem normal. why, in some ways they are better than most people. they are master strategists. they plan before hand. they prooceed most systematically. they never commit random murders on a mass level. they gather incredible amounts of info. on their victoms. they get acquainted with them before hand. much before they decide to make their move.

once they are finished with the act. they do the clean up perfectly. some are even known to skin and gut the victoms.
that shows that they are very capable, however grotesque it may be.

these people are very very sharp.

does that make them normal??

will you accept them in society??

will you willing give them a license to kill, just because they are 'that damn good' anyways??

i think not. nobody would.

they are unnatural. they may be right, but they are so, so wrong as well.

my second point in establishing my case.

animals. animals are purely instinctive, and in the wild , there has been not one case of an animal being homosexual. it is not in there nature.

animals in the wild are in tune with nature.
that is an uncontradictory statement.

but what of the animals in zoos. they are given a 'cultured' environment. they are part of a society.

they have become part of an abnormality. because of the way they have been kept.

homosexuals have started to appear in the monkeys kept in zoos.

homosexuals have started to appear in sheep reared on farms.

they are unnatural. and animals are basically meant to be in tune with nature.

now i shall take this up dirctly.

let me take up society as my third example.
because that is where gays stem from.


the.present and preceding.presiding.still continuing. structure.of.society.

the society breeds such abnormality. it is bound to come up. in no way is it a healthy society right now. i point no finger at anyone in particular, but somewhere we have also come in it's clutches. we live in it. it's only how much it's managed to stiffle us.

it is stiffling. and because people are made to suppress certain emotions, certain behaviour, abnormalities have begun to show.

split persnality is one case. a case purely based on the pyche being surpressed.
orientation is another. it breeds from other repressed feelings.

but scientifically, logically, after much scrutiny and dissection i have come to the conclusion that it is not normal. not natural. not in synche with the way things ought to be.

in my opnion, gays require therapy. they need to be helped with their mental health. because there is never only one thing wrong. somewhere , something else may still be going phenomenally screwy.

i feel they require asylum. all of them. if someone is gay. someone needs help.

yup, i agree with people wholly on that point.

gays.need.help........

i have presented my view. if you like you may present yours.

either way, thank you for reading.

 

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1. myLot reputation of 97/100. lovespecialangel (2844)   ranked 1,113 out of 27,468 in mylot.com   6 years ago

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I give you that. And with that I have but one thing to say....
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Judge not less ye be judged.

Ok, that was two. People are who they are. Some thinks it's natural and some don't. I agree its suppose to be man and woman not man and man or woman and woman. But at the same time its not my place to judge. Only God has that right. I have no problems with gay people. Live and let live.


myLot reputation of 30/100. YummyLingo (113)   ranked 8,016 out of 27,468 in mylot.com  6 years ago

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myLot reputation of 95/100. cloudwatcher (4168)   ranked 999 out of 27,468 in mylot.com  6 years ago

Lovespecialangel, you are absolutely right when you say only God has the right to judge.

The fact is that God has already judged homosexual behaviour. Very clearly and definitely, God has said it is an abomination to Him.

I accept homosexuals for what they are. In fact we had a dear friend who was a practicing homosexual. I do not judge them, because, as you say, I am also a sinner. However, since you brought the subject matter up, God has already judged them and condemned their behaviour.


myLot reputation of 82/100. cyntrow (2702)   ranked 1,588 out of 27,468 in mylot.com  6 years ago

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myLot reputation of 86/100. mapiklfish1 (101)  6 years ago

There are many places in the New Testament where homosexuality is condemmed. God is immutable, He does not change. He hated homosexuality in the Old Testament and He still hates it in the New Testament. Please notice that I said He hates the SIN not the person. God loves the homosexual and is constantly holding out His gift of salvation to them but He still hates the sin, just as He hates the sin of gossip or lieing or stealing, etc.


myLot reputation of 93/100. highflyingxangel (9336)   ranked 358 out of 27,468 in mylot.com  6 years ago

I hate to tell you, but the bible has been translated again and again, and the literal translation of those passages ARE NOT about homosexuality. Do some research on the matter..and make sure it's not biased research either.


myLot reputation of 82/100. leedug (708)   ranked 1,796 out of 27,468 in mylot.com  6 years ago

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myLot reputation of 89/100. everybodylovesleah (161)   ranked 12,508 out of 27,468 in mylot.com  6 years ago

Homosexuality is condemned in Christianity. So what? What I hate is not that people consider homosexuality a sin, that is perfectly fine. What I hate is that people act like homosexuality is worse than their sins, that it is somehow the worse sin ever committed...now THAT is what people will have a hard time finding support for in the bible. Biblical interpretations are one thing, but putting your own feelings in the mix is another.


myLot reputation of 90/100. Pigglies (5141)   ranked 1,578 out of 27,468 in mylot.com  6 years ago

I don't care if you don't like me. What I care about, is when bigoted people take away my rights just for being a lesbian.

What if you couldn't see your spouse in the hospital? Or if you had been living together for 30 years yet you still legally could not be married?

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2. myLot reputation of 97/100. beyonce03 (1870)   ranked 536 out of 27,468 in mylot.com   6 years ago

I don't really want to debate with you on tbhis thing because I think that's it's normal to be gay, IT's in you and since human had feeling it's been there.

I only want to talk about one point. You said that there is no case of animal beeing gay. YOU ARE WRONG!!!!. It has been prove that are lof of cats for exemple can be at least bisexual (I had one and some friends of mine also)
Also if you make some research there is some story about gay naimal like gay penguins.
So before saying anything, at least make some research!

http://ask.yahoo.com/20060919.html


myLot reputation of 30/100. YummyLingo (113)   ranked 8,016 out of 27,468 in mylot.com  6 years ago

you did not read my entire post did you. read it agin.


you are wrong.

i've covered everything.


myLot reputation of 30/100. YummyLingo (113)   ranked 8,016 out of 27,468 in mylot.com  6 years ago

okay im not omnipotent, i 've read a lot , and feel that i've covered a lot.

thank you for responding though.


myLot reputation of 97/100. beyonce03 (1870)   ranked 536 out of 27,468 in mylot.com  6 years ago

Ok maybe I red it too fast, I'm sorry about that. Sometimes I have some difficulty with english.


myLot reputation of 44/100. colonelsanders (153)   ranked 14,693 out of 27,468 in mylot.com  6 years ago

beyonce you said that there are gay in animal. Can you show the proof? I mean scientific explanation so that all of us will be satisfied, after all they are animals.No brains thus never ever had the ability to distinguish what is bad and what is wrong. We,human being have brain and mind to think reasonably. My honest opinion is that homosexuality is just for pure fun and for people who want to run from responsibility.They say they have rights to marry each other. for what? you think you can reproduce? I love queen but the thought of freddie mercury is gay making me sick and he died of hiv-- gay spread hiv


myLot reputation of 90/100. nufoundglory (997)   ranked 1,308 out of 27,468 in mylot.com  6 years ago

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myLot reputation of 97/100. deebomb (10022)   ranked 797 out of 27,468 in mylot.com  6 years ago

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myLot reputation of 90/100. Pigglies (5141)   ranked 1,578 out of 27,468 in mylot.com  6 years ago

Animals do have brains. You guys must really be getting your information from interesting sources!

I've personally dissected a sheep brain. While they may seem pretty stupid, they still have a brain (bigger than the size of your fist too).


myLot reputation of 88/100. olaff123 (400)   ranked 5,540 out of 27,468 in mylot.com  6 years ago

Hey, colonelsanders! Being gay is fun, and I guess that's many straight people is so upset with us. We have the fancy two seater sport cars (compared to the station wagons), nice homes (tastefully furnished - children just ruin any attempt to a chic home!), trips to Greece, Seychelles, the Far East (while you have to go to family resorts with the brats). Does sound like pure selfish fun all the way, doesn't it?


myLot reputation of 86/100. azriel (1989)   ranked 2,415 out of 27,468 in mylot.com  6 years ago

sorry for butting in (no pun intended) but i have to disagree with what colonelsanders said. its not just gays who spreads HIV. straight people do it too. and HIV was NOT caused by homosexuality, get your facts straight. it started when people had sex with apes. thats called BESTIALITY, not homosexuality.

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3. Corrine11 (84)   6 years ago

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myLot reputation of 30/100. YummyLingo (113)   ranked 8,016 out of 27,468 in mylot.com  6 years ago

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4. myLot reputation of 70/100. goshimhappy (315)   ranked 13,178 out of 27,468 in mylot.com   6 years ago

I agree that homosexuality is an abnormal characteristic in the brain, but I would not compare them to serial killers or anything like that. I don't support homosexuals but I think that we should just leave them be since they aren't necessarily doing anything wrong in my opinion.

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5. myLot reputation of 87/100. lilbitgreen (139)   6 years ago

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6. myLot reputation of 79/100. linepau1 (158)   ranked 15,736 out of 27,468 in mylot.com   6 years ago

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myLot reputation of 82/100. cyntrow (2702)   ranked 1,588 out of 27,468 in mylot.com  6 years ago

Correction. It's not natural for you because you are not gay. For gay people it is not natural to be with a member of the opposite sex. Some try it, and the marraiges and relationships fail, because it is just not natural for them.


myLot reputation of 79/100. linepau1 (158)   ranked 15,736 out of 27,468 in mylot.com  6 years ago

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7. myLot reputation of 72/100. aiguy01 (506)   ranked 9,796 out of 27,468 in mylot.com   6 years ago

Ok, so why does the guy in your photo icon look like he's getting it up the butt?

Me thinks he doth protest too much.


myLot reputation of 98/100. cajundharma (548)   ranked 5,911 out of 27,468 in mylot.com  6 years ago

LOL! You win the internet.


myLot reputation of 30/100. YummyLingo (113)   ranked 8,016 out of 27,468 in mylot.com  6 years ago

well, your logic is undeniable flawless.

me be stumped.^^


myLot reputation of 30/100. YummyLingo (113)   ranked 8,016 out of 27,468 in mylot.com  6 years ago

undeniably flawless.

sorry for the errors in type here an ther, i punch kinda fast.


myLot reputation of 6/100. jawanza (602)  6 years ago

if you new anything about anime you'd know that the pervy sage is looking at women in this screen shot.


myLot reputation of 30/100. YummyLingo (113)   ranked 8,016 out of 27,468 in mylot.com  6 years ago

dude.

it was a joke.

you should have just left it at that.


myLot reputation of 6/100. jawanza (602)  6 years ago

i know but i couldnt resist i like anime too much


myLot reputation of 30/100. YummyLingo (113)   ranked 8,016 out of 27,468 in mylot.com  6 years ago

cool,

you and i fall in the same category then.

don't mind if i add you as a friend??

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8. redgravewriter (23)   6 years ago

dwarf monkeys and hyena's. That's all I have to say about that. In the wild.

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9. myLot reputation of 90/100. Pigglies (5141)   ranked 1,578 out of 27,468 in mylot.com   6 years ago

This is just a collection of your ramblings on the subject. I don't see any real studies you've pointed to.

And yes, there are documented homosexual relationships in animals in the wild, not just in captivity.


myLot reputation of 93/100. highflyingxangel (9336)   ranked 358 out of 27,468 in mylot.com  6 years ago

I agree with this. Too many comparisons..nothing that really supports anything.


myLot reputation of 94/100. ESKARENA1 (12122)   ranked 131 out of 27,468 in mylot.com  6 years ago

there is no analysis, its just someone venting their spleen, fare enough, im sure the thread leader has his own perversions if we were to examine his private sex life, closely enough. As for things not being natural, well in my simplistic view point, if something belongs in nature, then guess what? its natural, homosexuality is natural for all homosexuals. What is the problem my friend, do you secretly question your own sexuality? It certainly looks like this to an outsider, never mind, bright blessings to you I hope you come to terms with your own sexual preferences sooner or later, then maybe you can stop feeling the need to make comment upon what other people choose to do behind closed bedroom doors.
Why shouldnt homosexuals flaunt their sexuality? heterosexuals do it all the time, infact our media is full of images of people doing just that, maybe a poster from my old university gay society would serve you well. It simply said, if you must be heterosexual, at least be discrete
blessed be
keep on posting


myLot reputation of 35/100. urbandekay (6799)   ranked 8,601 out of 27,468 in mylot.com  6 years ago

Hmmm, Pigglies, where are your refs to studies, physician heal thyself?

all the best urban


myLot reputation of 90/100. Pigglies (5141)   ranked 1,578 out of 27,468 in mylot.com  6 years ago

I will go find them for you as soon as someone answers my chemistry thread. I need to finish this stuff first. :)

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10. myLot reputation of 93/100. highflyingxangel (9336)   ranked 358 out of 27,468 in mylot.com   6 years ago

I hate to tell you this, buy homosexual behavhior occurs in animals..even in the wild. It doesn't just occur in a zoo, and so what if it does? That does not mean, in any way, that the zoo's environment did that. I haven't seen any evidence anywhere that supports that. If there is any, I'm sure it's by biased people.

Secondly, gays do not need help. It's not a mental disease. It's been taken off the records as one for years. "Gay therapy" does not work. No one is every cured. Follow ups on people supposedly cured show gay people still behaving how they did before.

It is natural. You can't compare gays to serial killers and split personality affected people. All of been around for thousands of years whether you want to believe it or not. Thinking it hasn't is quite and idiotic thing to think. Do some research and you will see that is has been around for ever, and that before, people saw it as normal..it only become unnatural when higher up peoples decided it was to be.


myLot reputation of 35/100. urbandekay (6799)   ranked 8,601 out of 27,468 in mylot.com  6 years ago

Sorry you are wrong on two counts.

One you mistake, I presume, same sex mounting behaviour for homosexual behaviour, where in fact it has been shown that same sex mounting and some opposite sex mounting is not sexual behaviour at all but about dominance.

Secondly, there are documented cases of people who have been cured of homosexuality, read what they people concerned say once they are cured.

all the best urban


Corrine11 (84)  6 years ago

If a person says they are "cured" of homosexuality. It would take more than their "word" for me to believe it. It would take consistent behavior until they were to die for me to buy that. Are there any long term studies on that subject. I would like to know how long they have been "cured."? In what way they were cured? Are there accounts of relapses? How many cured homosexuals go back to their original behavior? I don't mean just sexual behavior? I get the feeling that when most people refer to 'homosexuality" they are just referring to a person's sexual behavior. I think(maybe I am wrong) that homosexuality goes beyond that.
I don't know much about animal behavior so I can't go there.

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