Horrors of the Old Testament and it's people  | | | | The Old Testament is filled with numerous stories of animal and human sacrifice. God, we are told, likes the pleasing aroma of burning flesh. Genesis, the first book of the Bible, has Abraham preparing to sacrifice his son to God."Take your son, your only son – yes, Isaac, whom you love so much – and go to the land of Moriah. Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains, which I will point out to you." (Genesis 22:1-18) Abraham takes his own son up on a mountain and builds an altar upon which to burn him. He even lies to his son and has him help build the altar. Then Abraham ties his son to the altar and puts a knife to his throat. He then hears God tell him this was just a test of his faith. However, God still wanted to smell some burnt flesh so he tells Abraham to burn a ram. Even though he didn't kill his son, it is still an incredibly cruel and evil thing to do. If Abraham did that today he would be in jail serving a long sentence as someone's prison-beeotch. It amazes me how Christians see this story as a sign of God's love. There is no love here, just pure unadulterated evil. The first seven chapters of Leviticus have extensive rules regarding animal and food sacrifices. These offerings are supposed to be burnt so that God can smell them. If you read through these it seems clear to me that the priests were getting their followers to make a big feast for them every week. The priests were very particular about what kind of food to bring and how to prepare it. Even more peculiar is God's obsession with first-born sons. In Exodus 13:2 the Lord said"Consecrate to me every first-born that opens the womb among Israelites, both man and beast, for it belongs to me." Later it says that you can redeem (replace) a donkey with a sheep and that you must redeem a child for an unspecified price. It is clear from the context that"consecrate" means a burning sacrifice. These priests are guilty of theft and kidnapping. Since any sins in the Old Testament were punishable by death, these priests used the threat of death to extort food and money from their followers. What do we call a scum-bag that threatens to kill your kids unless you pay a ransom? A kidnapper! If these priests were alive today they would be in prison with Abraham. However, in Leviticus 27:28-29, the Lord allows for no redemptions."Note also that any one of his possessions which a man vows as doomed to the Lord, whether it is a human being or an animal, or a hereditary field, shall be neither sold nor ransomed; everything that is thus doomed becomes most sacred to the Lord. All human beings that are doomed lose the right to be redeemed; they must be put to death." I must admit that I am a bit confused by this contradiction, but it might only apply to slaves in your possession. Not that it makes any difference. A human sacrifice is a human sacrifice, and it is just sick. Bible Passages About Ritual Human Sacrifice Jephthah Burns His Daughter "At that time the Spirit of the LORD came upon Jephthah, and he went throughout the land of Gilead and Manasseh, including Mizpah in Gilead, and led an army against the Ammonites. And Jephthah made a vow to the LORD. He said,"If you give me victory over the Ammonites, I will give to the LORD the first thing coming out of my house to greet me when I return in triumph. I will sacrifice it as a burnt offering.""So Jephthah led his army against the Ammonites, and the LORD gave him victory. He thoroughly defeated the Ammonites from Aroer to an area near Minnith – twenty towns – and as far away as Abel- keramim. Thus Israel subdued the Ammonites. When Jephthah returned home to Mizpah, his daughter – his only child – ran out to meet him, playing on a tambourine and dancing for joy. When he saw her, he tore his clothes in anguish."My daughter!" he cried out."My heart is breaking! What a tragedy that you came out to greet me. For I have made a vow to the LORD and cannot take it back." And she said, "Father, you have made a promise to the LORD. You must do to me what you have promised, for the LORD has given you a great victory over your enemies, the Ammonites. But first let me go up and roam in the hills and weep with my friends for two months, because I will die a virgin.""You may go," Jephthah said. And he let her go away for two months. She and her friends went into the hills and wept because she would never have children. When she returned home, her father kept his vow, and she died a virgin. So it has become a custom in Israel for young Israelite women to go away for four days each year to lament the fate of Jephthah's daughter." (Judges 11:29-40 NLT) God Commands Burning Humans [The Lord speaking]"The one who has stolen what was set apart for destruction will himself be burned with fire, along with everything he has, for he has broken the covenant of the LORD and has done a horrible thing in Israel." (Joshua 7:15 NLT) Josiah and Human Sacrifice At the LORD's command, a man of God from Judah went to Bethel, and he arrived there just as Jeroboam was approaching the altar to offer a sacrifice. Then at the LORD's command, he shouted,"O altar, altar! This is what the LORD says: A child named Josiah will be born into the dynasty of David. On you he will sacrifice the priests from the pagan shrines who come here to burn incense, and human bones will be burned on you." (1 Kings 13:1-2 NLT) He[Josiah] executed the priests of the pagan shrines on their own altars, and he burned human bones on the altars to desecrate them. Finally, he returned to Jerusalem. King Josiah then issued this order to all the people:"You must celebrate the Passover to the LORD your God, as it is written in the Book of the Covenant." There had not been a Passover celebration like that since the time when the judges ruled in Israel, throughout all the years of the kings of Israel and Judah. This Passover was celebrated to the LORD in Jerusalem during the eighteenth year of King Josiah's reign. Josiah also exterminated the mediums and psychics, the household gods, and every other kind of idol worship, both in Jerusalem and throughout the land of Judah. He did this in obedience to all the laws written in the scroll that Hilkiah the priest had found in the LORD's Temple. Never before had there been a king like Josiah, who turned to the LORD with all his heart and soul and strength, obeying all the laws of Moses. And there has never been a king like him since. (2 Kings 23:20-25 NLT) Human Sacrifice Chastised a little, they shall be greatly blessed, because God tried them and found them worthy of himself. As gold in the furnace, he proved them, and as sacrificial offerings he took them to himself. In the time of their visitation they shall shine, and shall dart about as sparks through stubble; (Wisdom 3:5-7 NAB The Book of The Wisdom of Solomon is mostly in Catholic versions of the Bible.) Child Sacrifice And this became a hidden trap for mankind, because men, in bondage to misfortune or to royal authority, bestowed on objects of stone or wood the name that ought not to be shared. Afterward it was not enough for them to err about the knowledge of God, but they live in great strife due to ignorance, and they call such great evils peace. For whether they kill children in their initiations, or celebrate secret mysteries, or hold frenzied revels with strange customs… (Wisdom 14:21-23 RSV) The Book of The Wisdom of Solomon is mostly in Catholic versions of the Bible. This passage condemns human sacrifice but acknowledges that it did happen by early God worshipers. Humans are Fuel for Fire As for you, son of man, prophesy: Thus says the Lord GOD against the Ammonites and their insults: A sword, a sword is drawn for slaughter, burnished to consume and to flash lightning, because you planned with false visions and lying divinations to lay it on the necks of depraved and wicked men whose day has come when their crimes are at an end. Return it to its sheath! In the place where you were created, in the land of your origin, I will judge you. I will pour out my indignation upon you, breathing my fiery wrath upon you, I will hand you over to ravaging men, artisans of destruction. You shall be fuel for the fire, your blood shall flow throughout the land. You shall not be remembered, for I, the LORD, have spoken. (Ezekiel 21:33-37 NAB) Burn Nonbelievers "Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors."The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT) Assh*les like the one I lifted this page from like to present it as some kind of 'damning expose' on"Christianity", but clearly these are not the books of the New Testament but rather the pre- Christianity books, and we know who they pertain to, and THAT is w | | | | | | | | | | Understand the Bible Understand the world's most popular book. Order your copy. ucg.org/bible-study-aid
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| | Actually, that is very interesting. I, for one, am curious- but I am sure that no one can really give me that great of an answer. (Sorry, but I have been asking this question for years now to different religious priests and not really gotten a straight answer.) Why, if the Christian and Jewish God is so merciful and kind- why is he, in so many ways and shapes- just a really big bully? Think about it- in the Bible, numerous times, its 'if you dont do things my way, I, your God, will kill you'- or make your life miserable or something to that effect. I just dont understand why God, or Allah, or whoever you believe in- would make you choose in that way. Arent you supposed to go to God because of free will, not because you are being forced into a choice? Organized religion, as a whole, (in my opinion, of course) has become so money hungry, so hyprocritical (yeah, my spelling sucks) that I personally believe that no religion is completely pure and has exactly what God intended. For example, the Catholic priests who thought that God spoke to them to molest little boys and girls. What about all the cover ups for years? Think about the Crusades in the early 1400's when, in the name of God, decided to force Christianity onto people. What about Wiccans or just general pagans? They were wiped out, all in the name of a 'loving and kind' God. Once again, this is just my opinion- I am not trying to get people upset- I just want people to step out of the box they have shut themselves into and think, just for a little bit. | | | | | | | dreadstar (689)
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| | Personally what I came up with is that Jesus was a reformer of a system gone mad, and in no way is christianity of the new testament related to the evil doings of the old testament. It is Islam and Judaism that share common roots, not christians, and those two tribes of the same race have plunged the whole world into another armed conflict, just as they have always done. | | | | | ctodd75 (15)
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| | Okay, I do somewhat get what you are saying. However, I am somewhat confused. It is Islam and Judaism that share common roots, not christians. Yes, they all share common roots because of the Old Testament. Jesus, even though he revised many of the old teachings and laws, still believed in parts of the Old Testament. In my opinion, the system was and is still flawed, mainly because no one wants to go back to the basic teachings of the Bible- or whatever Holy Book you believe in. I am curious if you believe Mary was married to Jesus or not. The reason why is because some people do, and others dont. I, for one, believe that many books of the New Testament were taken out and that Mary has a bigger role than many people think. | | | | | ctodd75 (15)
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| | You do know why the Islams and Jewish communities hate each other so much? It is, once again, because of a common ancestor. I will put more on here later about that subject, if you like... Just to educate others, of course. Many people do not know the real issue- just that they are taught from birth to hate other people/religions. | | | | dreadstar (689)
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| | I'm interested in hearing more, but I wish they would just nuke each other and leave humans out of their petty tribal warfare | | | | | ctodd75 (15)
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| | You know, that would prolly be too simple. :) | | | | dreadstar (689)
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| | ctodd75 (15) 15 hours ago You do know why the Islams and Jewish communities hate each other so much? It is, once again, because of a common ancestor. I will put more on here later about that subjec ---------------------------- Yes I'd like to hear more, when you have time | | | | | | | Understand the Bible Understand the world's most popular book. Order your copy. ucg.org/bible-study-aid | add comment | | | |
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