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myLot reputation of 36/100. Gnosisquest (779)   ranked 211 out of 6,373 in politics3 years ago

In order to remove corruption from public office we need to return to the solutions which worked in ancient Greece and Rome.

Every politician should have his salary based on the average salary of Americans when computed without the top 5%. If they desire a raise they know what to do and if they can't do anything about our wages they have no business serving us in office.

Every politician that is found accepting a bribe including his family is to have all assets confiscated.

Any corporation or organization that attempt to bribe, threaten or apply undue influence for selfish interest are to have all assets of the executive board confiscated and the corporation is to be turned over to the government. Should this be a religious institution the Church is to loose all assets and be banned from practicing.

Any more suggestions on how to straighten out this mess humorously referred to as a free country?

Best ras

 
 
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11. myLot reputation of 73/100. roztredtoes (1912)   ranked 1,184 out of 6,373 in politics   3 years ago

You sure must like to beat your gums for the excersise. The chance of any of this happening is about the same as me growing my hair back. You need to find something to dwell on that is more likely to happen, like a date with Marlyn Monroe.


myLot reputation of 36/100. Gnosisquest (779)   ranked 211 out of 6,373 in politics  3 years ago

lol;

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12. myLot reputation of 85/100. mobyfriend (827)   ranked 2,707 out of 6,373 in politics   3 years ago

I'm not sure but did't the Roman And Greek civilizations go down because of vast corruption?

I don't think it's possible to introduce the punishment system in your post because there will always be corrupt people (if they don't it for hte money they do it for the power) but maybe your election system has to change.

But yes I think politicians and or organisations should be made accountable for their actions. if you are a brqainsurgeon and botch up the operation you can get sued till kingdom come so yes why not the same thing for government officials.


myLot reputation of 36/100. Gnosisquest (779)   ranked 211 out of 6,373 in politics  3 years ago

Yes Moby, the Greek and Roman civilizations booth went down because of corruption.

Just like the US the Greeks and Romans fluctuated from Democratic states to Oligarchy's. During democratic times the middle class prospered and there were not really any poor. During Olicarchic times the middle class became almost extinct, poverty spread like the plague and misery along with it.

Every time the Oligarchy was overthrown it took drastic measures or people. When the Oligarchy became so powerful it could not be toppled the society toppled. There is every reason to believe history is about to repeat itself in the US.

There may always be corrupt people but if we get them out of the higher offices we have a chance.

Best ras

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13. myLot reputation of 97/100. sarahruthbeth22 (10443)   ranked 824 out of 6,373 in politics   3 years ago

I like your ideas. When I read Greece and Rome, my first thought was Julius Caesar and Senators.The problem is that it takes the special interests groups' money to get elected. And because of the special interests half of eligible voters don't vote.Do you think if we put your ideas into action and add that all eligible voters must vote?


myLot reputation of 36/100. Gnosisquest (779)   ranked 211 out of 6,373 in politics  3 years ago

I don't believe you should make all eligible voters vote; what I believe is in a level playing field.

No person can use his money or any other person or corporations money.
All candidates would get the same allowance, paid by the Government. With a fraction of what it costs now the message would get out and the greedy would also get out.

Thank you Sarah; best ras

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14. myLot reputation of 29/100. destroyer (637)   ranked 2,956 out of 6,373 in politics   3 years ago

I live in Pakistan and it is said that Pakistan is made for 2 kinda people 1) Armed forces personals 2) the politicians!

The suggestions that you have made might work for America but over here i think we need far more drastic measures!


myLot reputation of 36/100. Gnosisquest (779)   ranked 211 out of 6,373 in politics  3 years ago

Thank you destroyer:

Would I be correct if I stated that you also need to debunk the religion in the country?

Best ras

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15. jgddiwik (30)   ranked 5,068 out of 6,373 in politics   3 years ago

yes but for that we have to awek the people and this is oue responsibilty and before that we have to be honest


myLot reputation of 36/100. Gnosisquest (779)   ranked 211 out of 6,373 in politics  3 years ago

Absolutely; we all have to be honest and for far more reasons than this.

Best ras

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16. myLot reputation of 41/100. arnboy (339)   ranked 1,945 out of 6,373 in politics   3 years ago

There lies no solution for corruption, it exists solely because there are 2 parties, one who gives and the other which takes. Trying to clamp down on this give and take principle using laws is of no use, because the people responsible for creation of laws always create laws with loopholes and escape routes, else they do not bother passing
the bill's and their subsequent adoption as laws of the land.
My dear friend, its not the common folks who design the golden rules (law) but the people with the gold!!. Corruption existed since the beginning of human evolution and will continue till the human species thrives on the planet earth. So, folks raise its time to become rich, powerful and yes design the golden rules....ha ha ha LOL


myLot reputation of 36/100. Gnosisquest (779)   ranked 211 out of 6,373 in politics  3 years ago

I don't think you are correct here; I believe the reason for corruption is that humanity does not have a decent foundation on which to base our lives.

When we no longer look at ourselves as some sinning failures which a misguided deity created there will come about an enormous change in humanity.

Best ras


myLot reputation of 41/100. arnboy (339)   ranked 1,945 out of 6,373 in politics  3 years ago

All human species follows the law of the jungle, i.e. "survival of the fittest", to become fit one has to bend the rules to win, be it war, love, laws. If your hypothesis is correct in that case Religions, spiritual leaders etc. would have ensured a corruption free landscape, but the ideal socialist society never evolved and never will. We are just like other animal at the end of the day and the basic instinct of survival will always dominate our psyche. Corruption can never end its just another manifestation of the desire to survive. As long as the human race exist just as long will corruption exists. Corruption is a disease for which no vaccination can be created. At the end of the corruption is one of the dark side of the human thought process, among the many.
Only cure for corruption is freedom from desire, i.e. the desire to survive.


myLot reputation of 36/100. Gnosisquest (779)   ranked 211 out of 6,373 in politics  3 years ago

To answer your question take a look at my post here:
http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/713248.aspx

Best ras

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17. myLot reputation of 74/100. faraz007 (156)   ranked 5,069 out of 6,373 in politics   3 years ago

Well removing corruption is not impossible very much tough task. Corruption in third world can change the course of an election and even a country. It is very sad that corruption exist in every strata of our society from police constable to highest post in government and business world.


myLot reputation of 36/100. Gnosisquest (779)   ranked 211 out of 6,373 in politics  3 years ago

Yes faraz it is sad; do you know that the rich and the poor are just alike, neither has enough.

It is not people which are bad; we all want to see others happy. The problem is the basis of our philosophical and religious beliefs. It is not enough to change through laws and force; we need to elevate ourselves above our present poverty of these two unfortunate classes of people and establish sound beliefs in humanity.

Best ras

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18. kumx5dc (21)   ranked 5,073 out of 6,373 in politics   3 years ago

yes corruption in public office is great proble in our social life . any public office had serious problems of corruption government not doing thier work properly

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19. manjumk (24)   ranked 5,067 out of 6,373 in politics   3 years ago

we must try to remove the corruption because it will make all people to take money and not do there work properly so corruption must be removed

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20. myLot reputation of 78/100. jricbt (1177)   ranked 5,070 out of 6,373 in politics   3 years ago

Man, you don't know how lucky you are with your politicians.

You really don't know.

Where I live, I would pray (and I am an atheist!!!) to have members of congress like you have here (assuming you live in the USA).

Here corruption is the law, and is even, in some levels, accepted as a "natural way of relationship".

Sad.

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