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myLot reputation of 100/100. Heavensent53 (2615)3 years ago

Hi, We live out in the country, and we have a black lab named Luke who is about a year old and mostly stays outside.
He is in a bad habit of finding and bringing box turtles up to the yard. This time of year it is rainy season, and the turtles are moving.
Not only does he bring them in the yard, (which isn't such a bad thing), but he chews on them if we do not catch him right away. Besides hurting the turtles, if he gets a piece of shell swallowed, it could be bad for him.
We have tried everything we can think of to discourage
him. We scold, take it away, even sprayed him with water. Someone suggested putting hot sauce on the turtles back, but I'm afraid that would harm the turtle, not to mention the poor dog's mouth! So my question is has anyone dealt with something like this, or would you have a suggestion to stop it? He's a good dog, but a Lab and likes to chew and collect things, that's his nature!


Luke, our sweetie
 
 
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cremechese (4503) response was accepted on 4/5/2007.
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tags:  turtles, dogs, no turtles, turtle dog, chew toys
 
1. myLot reputation of 88/100. cremechese (4503)   3 years ago

Well, I suppose he's retrieving, lol. Darn good at it too, sounds like! Do you think substituting something after he brings a turtle would help him get the idea? And kind of teach him to retrieve that other thing? Wow. I can find all kinds of articles on the net about teaching to retrieve, but not keeping them from it.


myLot reputation of 100/100. Heavensent53 (2615)  3 years ago

We give him all kinds of things like huge chew bones, I know some of it he might get bored. Now the weather's warming up, we want to start him on retrieving practise. I think he gets bored, and needs something to wear him out.

He had a big Pileated Woodpecker in his mouth one day, didn't hurt it, and I don't know how he caught it, but my husband took it away, let it go, it was one mad, squawking, woodpecker!


myLot reputation of 88/100. cremechese (4503)  3 years ago

I have to continue to follow this discussion. I had a black lab once, but I think she actually was braindamaged. She just was not smart at all & she*did* have a big bump on her head when my son found her. The only thing she could do was escape from the yard. Finally she escaped and we never did find her again. Waaa, she was a sweet dog but never retrieved a thing except some poor neighbor kid's shoe.


myLot reputation of 100/100. Heavensent53 (2615)  3 years ago

Well, we think mystery solved! Sorry fifty, but the pepper does not work (for Luke), it doesn't bother him at all. The county extension office doesn't have a clue.
Cremechese, you are the closest. He just wants to retrieve.
My husband took a new approach, praising him, and take it away, releasing it, telling Luke they have to let it go. Luke is perfectly happy with this, and has stopped chewing on them. (Now he eats my tulips!)
I think being so young, he has the instinct to retrieve, but doesn't know quite how to handle, so he's experimenting. No telling what he'll do next...

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2. myLot reputation of 90/100. kathy77 (6867)   3 years ago

Hi, oh I do love lab dogs I have had quite a few in my life and I also had turtles what I found that you can do is to put pepper on the back of the turtle and this will should surely stop your dog from attacking the turtles. So I do hope that you will try this as it did work for me and it should surely work for you too.


myLot reputation of 100/100. Heavensent53 (2615)  3 years ago

Thanks Kathy, we will surely try that. He can really chomp down on them, poor little turtles...

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3. myLot reputation of 94/100. tess1960 (1581)   3 years ago

IWhy not call the county agent or a local vet and ask wha you could put on the turtles back that would not hurt the turtle but would discourage him.

I thought box turtles were snappers. Am I wrong?


myLot reputation of 100/100. Heavensent53 (2615)  3 years ago

This is why I asked the whole world a silly question, (light bulb moment!!!!:) I should have thought of that!! What a great Idea, thanks so much!
As far as snapping turtles, no, there is a difference, but I do think the little "taripines" (box turtles, as we call them) will bite if aggressive, I've heard the males (with red eyes) are more aggressive. Mostly they put their head & body in their shell to escape danger. That doesn't stop Luke though.

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4. myLot reputation of 82/100. samrat16 (2195)   3 years ago

Turtles can carry diseases that you wouldn't want to give to your dog, so it's best to keep them separate. I will suggest you to keep turtles away from the dog.

If your dog has swallowed a turtle than this is what you can do -->

Turtles carry samonella, I would worry. Get her into the vet asap. She could get very sick and pass it off to you in her feces/ and saliva. Salmonellosis is well recognized as a zoonosis associated with many species of reptiles. In the 1970s, it was estimated that 280,000 human cases of salmonellosis/year were associated with reptiles, leading to the ban on turtles with carapace lenghts< 4 inches (i.e. would fit in a child's mouth). This led to a substantial reduction in pediatric cases of salmonellosis, but a recent study has suggested that 6% of all sporadic human cases of Salmonella infection are still associated with reptiles .

My guess is that she'll be ok. My dogs have eaten: bunnies, rats, squirrels and pretty much any other critter they can catch. They are healthy as can be. Just make sure her shots are up to date. If you see any signs of her being ill take her to the vet. Other than that, undertstand that she's a dog and has an instict to chase/kill prey.


myLot reputation of 100/100. Heavensent53 (2615)  3 years ago

Thank you for all this info, that I did not think about either! Now I know we need to keep him from the turtles. I know dogs will eat a lot of nasty stuff, but I was thinking about the shell puncturing his intestines. I knew about reptiles carrying Salmonella, but had forgotten.

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5. myLot reputation of 94/100. Lakota12 (17195)   3 years ago

so funny really never heard of this before but we have a chow that takes all little stuffed animals and cuddles them nd would growl at other dogs to stay away he got so mean at it we had to make sure none was in sight of him any more


myLot reputation of 100/100. Heavensent53 (2615)  3 years ago

Thanks Lakota! Is your baby a female? It sounds like she's mothering them, what a sweetie!

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6. myLot reputation of 99/100. creematee (1645)   3 years ago

Heaven, I don't have any advice for you, but wanted to let you know that your baby is so adorable. I love labs, and had one, 2, no, I think it was 3 different labs growing up. Each one was as gentle as a lamb, and my best friend. This discussion brought back some happy memories for me, so thank you!
Good luck with keeping him away from those turtles. For some reason they would be so easy to catch. (I had one bite the worm off my fishing line, when I was 5 or 6 years old!) My dad put the little guy (Fred) in a bucket, and we kept him for about a week. Then we took him back to the river. I was so sad.:( I am sure he was happier there, though.


myLot reputation of 100/100. Heavensent53 (2615)  3 years ago

Ha-ha, you're my kind of person, creematee! Anybody who'd name a turtle, is alright by me!:)
He is a very good and loyal dog! He was dumped (or wandered)... we never could find out his story. He was skin & bones, bad shape, almost starved to death. We felt so sorry, got him vet care, and he will never go through that again. Now he's this HUGE lunk that appreciates his home, you can tell, his whole life is centered around being with us.


myLot reputation of 99/100. creematee (1645)  3 years ago

So glad that your pup found a good home!:) Give him a big squeeze for me!!!

 
7. myLot reputation of 97/100. Polly1 (8476)   3 years ago

I read some of the other response, they sound good. Your dog sounds so cute, he collects turtles, he wants his own pets. Its too bad he wants to chew on them.


myLot reputation of 100/100. Heavensent53 (2615)  3 years ago

Thanks! Well, he wants to chew on EVERYTHING, so it's nothing personal with his pets!:)

 
8. myLot reputation of 98/100. weemam (6719)   3 years ago

sorry pal I would have no idea about this but didn't want to ignore your discussion, I think fiftys idea of the pepper might work though,Hope it works, xx


myLot reputation of 100/100. Heavensent53 (2615)  3 years ago

Thanks weemam! Yes I guess my hubby will have to carry a big bottle of pepper around with him! No problem with wetting them down---- dog spit!!!

 
9. myLot reputation of 81/100. elp388 (1847)   3 years ago

LOL! no I have never had that happen! but your dog sounds like he really likes turtles!
when you figure it out I would like to know how to keep my neighbor's cat from putting dead mice on my doorstep! lol


myLot reputation of 100/100. Heavensent53 (2615)  3 years ago

Hi elp, thanks!:) The cat likes you, and is giving you "presents"!!! FEEL HONORED!!!
This turtle thing is a real problem... He may have to be penned up, which I really hate to do!

 
10. myLot reputation of 90/100. crystalball (1244)   3 years ago

Luke is so cute!

I would try and give the turtles away to a zoo. The turtles are going to get bigger and out live you and your Labrador.


myLot reputation of 100/100. Heavensent53 (2615)  3 years ago

Thanks for your reply! These are common little turtles that live here, (all over US), the zoo would not take them. This is mating season for these turtles, and they travel for miles, looking for "that special someone"!:)

 
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