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myLot reputation of 93/100. Transdisc (18434) 5 years ago

Okay, so I'm a bit dense, but I'm wondering about the ending of, The Departed. When Mark Wahlberg shot Matt Damon, was this simply revenge for the Martin Sheen character and all that happened, or was Wahlberg also a Rat in the Deparment?

 

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1. myLot reputation of 83/100. valerfore (178)   ranked 4,731 out of 10,799 in watching movies   5 years ago

He's doing it for revenge.

Please do go and check out the original movie, Infernal Affairs from Hong Kong. In my opinion, it is better :D


myLot reputation of 93/100. Transdisc (18434)  5 years ago

Thanks, I didn't even know that movie existed.
Are you making your suggestion based on seeing Infernal Affairs, or is it a deduction you made from watching The Departed, or is there some other reason you know this, valerfore?

Thanks for responding, and welcome to myLot. :+)


myLot reputation of 94/100. prestocaro (972)   ranked 3,005 out of 10,799 in watching movies  5 years ago

I'm checking that movie out... on netflix! thanks for the idea. I find that almost all originals are better than the remakes, especially ones that are taken from another culture.


myLot reputation of 83/100. valerfore (178)   ranked 4,731 out of 10,799 in watching movies  5 years ago

I based my comment on the Departed. Mark Walberg's character wasn't in the original, but I do think its a great addition :D

I watched Infernal Affairs first before Departed. Unlike other remakes, I think the Departed did a great job, though I still prefer the original. :p


myLot reputation of 93/100. Transdisc (18434)  5 years ago

Thanks for the clarification, valefore.

I thought it was revenge, but I also thought that it was open to the other possibility, especially with the rat running along the rail at the very end.

Thanks, valefore. I hope to look up Infernal Affairs, too. :+)

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2. myLot reputation of 48/100. MrNiceGuy (3253)   5 years ago

I think the only conclusion you can come to is that he killed him because he was a rat, and Mark Wahlberg figured it out. I really didn't see any evidence that would suggest Mark Wahlberg was another rat, so...


myLot reputation of 93/100. Transdisc (18434)  5 years ago

I don't think that this is the only conclusion that can be reached, MrNiceGuy, but I do appreciate your response. Most people will probably agree with you, and it seems like the answer, but I wondered if Scorcese had implemented yet another twist into the film. While there may not be any evidence in the body of the film to support Wahlberg as the rat, the closing scene, with the rat running along the rail, could be interepreted as a parting shot regarding Wahlberg.


myLot reputation of 48/100. MrNiceGuy (3253)  5 years ago

It could be, but since there is literally NO evidence to support that theory, I assume it isn't a good one. I saw the rat as simply a symbolic closing scene or having to do with Matt Damon (the obvious rat) being killed and the sudden appearance of a symbolic rat.

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3. myLot reputation of 98/100. buldwgz (892)   ranked 705 out of 10,799 in watching movies   5 years ago

Revenge.


myLot reputation of 93/100. Transdisc (18434)  5 years ago

A dish best served cold?

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4. myLot reputation of 96/100. ratburn (527)   ranked 4,303 out of 10,799 in watching movies   5 years ago

after seeing this discussion, i watched The Departed. i also was able to watch Infernal Affairs, from Hong Kong, which is said to be the original. I never really understood fully the Hong Kong version because there were no subtitles. it was just in Mandarin.

The Departed is a nice movie but i got confused in the end. there were just so many rats. i don't know which is which. i don't understand how Jack Nicholson was an FBI informant and why Matt Damon killed him. it just got so complicated i didn't get to follow. haha.

So i also have no idea why Mark Wahlberg shot Matt Damon. i think it was just for revenge. wahlberg probably found out Damon was really the rat. if wahlberg is also a rat, then i'm so much more lost. LOL.


myLot reputation of 93/100. Transdisc (18434)  5 years ago

Hey ratburn. I think that Nicholson was simply an FBI informant, and the movie talked about it and it was true, but the movie didn't really elaborate on how he informed. I think that Matt Damon killed him for a couple of reasons. One, he didn't like the idea that Nicholson was an FBI informant, and he felt threatened by what that mean to him (no trust) and so he took the opportunity to get rid of him when he came. Another reason (linked to the first) was that he simply took the opportunity, when he had it, to get rid of Nicholson, knowing that he could take Nicholson's place.

I believe that the prevalent thought is that Wahlberg killed Damon for revenge (dare I say justice?) I just wondered if there was yet another twist presented by the director. I figured a film buff might know this sort of thing.

That stinks about watching Infernal Affairs in Mandarin, with no subtitles. In some USA DVD's in films that were not made in English, there is an option in the setup menu that will show the film in English.

Good to hear from you ratburn! I would have thought you, of all people, would like a film with rats!! :+)


myLot reputation of 96/100. ratburn (527)   ranked 4,303 out of 10,799 in watching movies  5 years ago

thanks for enlightening me, transdisc.

i bought that dvd here in china and it didn't have any english subtitle. i tried watching it with the little knowledge that i have of the language but had a hard time understanding.

hahaha! i hate rats! i want rats to burn! :)

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5. myLot reputation of 89/100. Angelwhispers (4603)   ranked 242 out of 10,799 in watching movies   5 years ago

Crips that movie made me sick literally to my stomach when Leonardo's character got shot like that after all he had been through. Oh I believe it was purely revenge, man he had it coming. The whole thing about Jack Nicholson's character being an fbi informant confused me, I do not think they did a good job at explaining what that was all about.


myLot reputation of 93/100. Transdisc (18434)  5 years ago

Hello Angelwhispers, and thanks for responding to my Discussion. There were so gruesome scenes in that movie. I agree that I can see the revenge motive, and that is expected, but, like you, there seemed to be some confusion as to some aspects of the movie, and I wondered if there was supposed to be a deeper meaning, or if it was just revenge. I know that MrNiceGuys is adament that there is no evidence to support my wonderings, but I also think that there isn't evidence against those wonderings. With the continual plot changes throughout the movie, what's one more jab at the end?
Thanks, Angelwhispers. :+)

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6. myLot reputation of 71/100. ArsonCuff (2793)   ranked 966 out of 10,799 in watching movies   5 years ago

Revenge, not only for Martin sheens character, but also Leos's. Leo was searching for mark's character before the ending because he knew he was the only one that knew his identity and this was before the shrink found everything out..HOWEVER Leo gave her an envelope containing something which very well likely included Mark's name as someone to contact or find which she as the police psychiatrist would have no trouble doing having access to personnel files...Leo could have used her earlier, but she was not in the "know" and he was a good guy of sorts not to drag her into things, not knowing who she was dating and all.


myLot reputation of 93/100. Transdisc (18434)  5 years ago

Hey, ArsonCuff, you bring out some excellent points that I hadn't put in perspective. I forgot about Leo (duh) and Mark's knowledge of Leo's ID, and I also forgot about the envelope. When I read your response, it was like, "Oh yeah..." for me.

Thanks, ArsonCuff. You didn't just tell me that I was wrong, but you showed me how I was wrong. Thanks.

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