Don't you find V for Vendetta is very related to George Orwell's 1984?

now let me think I watched this movie lat night for the 8th time I'm sure..and you yes it does have many of the undertones of 1984..the voice of England definitely the big brother the ever watching eye of censorship, I just love this movie..what art was suitable. down to only the elite eating butter it was amazing. the best connection to 1984 I do feel is television the mind control people just swept up it is lies. It was amazing how just a small change in a picture and suddenly they believe a whole scenario that never happened..isn't that CNN now?
hmm makes you think
great topic
Cheryl

Yes I think the film (or at least the original comic strip) has borrowed some ideas from 1984. If they also would have had the simplification of English language (remember doubleplusgood?:) ) I would have thought the movie is referring to the same period as 1984 did.

..speaking of "big brother" - London has many cameras throughout the city, but I heard a report today that now they have made a speaking camera.. the person monitoring can speak to the person on the street.. correcting behavior, saying things like "please pick up your litter you just dropped" - this may sound good to some, but it seems real Orwellian to me!

very phiosphical and psychological. Orwell suggests that Control is the means to gain power and so did V for vendetta try to show. I guess they got the idea from it. It's all on dictatorship. It stresses the fact that people are not free at all, just like in Orwell's 1984. We are all currenlty being surveiled, all our emails and all. I really dont like this. Its a form of dictatorship to me. Well, hope it doesnt get worse!


Great discussion.

I still have to get my hands on Orwell's book..but from what I heard about the book, V for Vendetta must've been strikingly similiar. And actually, some of the stuff from Orwell's imagination aren't that far off anymore.

America's slowly getting more and more cameras everywhere too. Plus we've got RFID chips with Real Time capability creeping up on us, with its cousins in chippery and technology literally everywhere,setting up for people to literally to be tracked like merchandise -- just google RFID, you'll get a good idea bout it. National ID cards are becoming popular..check out, "Britain's national id scheme" -- their words, not mine. And America's Real ID act of 2005, which will go into affect May 11th of next year.

Which in case you didn't know. These cards have the realtime RFIDchips inside them, are easily hackable and duplicateable..I've seen it done. It doesn't even take hackers days to do it..twenty minutes is the longest it ever takes, and that's pretty extreme. Not to mention the HUGE privacy and civil rights issues concerning it.

Lets see..the Patriot Act basically makes it so that the government can tap whoever's phone they want, whenever they want, read you emails, the police can come into your house, search and confiscate your things, arrest you..ALL of this, without any warrant for them to do so. Habeas Corpus -- your right to a fair trial? If they declare you an enemy combatant, a foreigner with no rights..you can't prove that you're not what they say you are, and they can hold you indefinately in jail..without charging you with a thing, Bush can declare martial law and take complete control of everything in the process, Posse Comitatus is dead..in case you don't know what that is that's the law that use to prohibit the military from getting involved in civil affairs..from being sent to locations at home, the prevention of terrorism act in Britian's essentially like our Patriot Act, uh..freedom of speech is endangered because of free speech zones..you can be arrested for standing on a public street and holding a sign in a peaceable protest now..because you're out of the 'designated area' where protests are to be held. Senate called for internet censorship in America the other day..for the sake of the children, they say..though if you recall that's what an asian government said..and we know how crazy thecensorship over there is no. Most of the countries are slowly following suit with America and Britain though..and reporters were arrested in Britain the other day too, for doing an investigative journalistic measure with trains..and they'd one just like it the year before.

Alot of crap's goin' on, I just hope we never need someone like V to blow up a building to get people to do something.

It's crazy stuff, and I wish I could claim I was kidding about all of it. Research it and spread the word please, people aren't raising nearly enough noise as it is.

Although I agree there is a connection with 1984, I felt it to be a lot closer to Alduous Huxley's "A Brave New World" Very disturbing either way.

I haven't seen 'V for Vendetta' yet, partially due to my arrogant anti-Hollywood snobbishness, but am now intrigued, having studies the novel at school (as well as Animal Farm, Catalunia, Road to Wigan Pier) and enjoyed the film version starring John Hurt as Winston Smith!
Will get back to you on this one.