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myLot reputation of 74/100. onabreak2 (638)   ranked 839 out of 7,114 in have discussion on day to day issues3 years ago

I am so sick of hearing how Imus said nappy headed Ho's on his radio show. That is nothing compared to the words in some of the disgusting hip hop songs. The blacks are the ones that started the words nappy headed and calling the black girls Ho's. So why was it such a cardinal sin for Imus to say it. Imus has said much worse about other cultures and religions. He has pretty much covered every religion and culture with his nasty negative words. So if people don't like it then don't listen to it. In all of this controversy I went and looked at the lyrics to hip hop songs and they are either stupid, disgusting and degrading. Or all three. I don't even see how they can call it music. Imus is a shock jock. That is what he was hired for. The only reason he has been terminated from his job is because of the sponsors that have said they are pulling their ads. So it is the almighty dollar. Imus is not all bad. He does a lot of things for children. Now that he has lost his job because of all this stupidness I hope this doesn't have to stop. I guess if people don't like people like Rush Limbaugh, Howard Stern and others like them. Then just don't listen. But don't be a hypocrite about it either.


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1. myLot reputation of 68/100. fuzzEbluebathrobe (278)   ranked 1,325 out of 7,114 in have discussion on day to day issues   3 years ago

If Imus was singing a new hip hop song he had written, I would not have been upset. If the black and often white women who appear in and purchase rap music do not care how they are portrayed, neither do I. How women are portrayed in rap music has no relationship to me.
Instead he launched an attack against accomplished hard working women and painted them with the same brush as women who allow themselves to be seen in this absurd way and think it is cute. Imus's program often had very infleuntial guests allowing them to get out their opinions to the public. He should have been held to a higher moral standard. Sadly he was not. The only standard Imus was held to was the "where did all our corporate sponsorship money go test". He was fired for economic reasons not moral one's which curiously is why rappers survive. Oh I guess they are held to the same standard after all!!!


myLot reputation of 74/100. onabreak2 (638)   ranked 839 out of 7,114 in have discussion on day to day issues  3 years ago

I know exactly what he was fired for. Imus is a A hole. He has always been a A hole. He apologized his apology was accepted. I don't watch him and I am sure the girls he said that about don't watch him. He should not have said it but he did. But where do you think those words got started? If people don't like those words being used then no one should be able to use them. And if you have a problem with what Imus says or any other shock jock says then don't listen to them. Pretty soon if no one listens to them then they wont have shows. As long as there are hate mongers out there that thrive on this kind of BS there will be shock jocks feeding it to them. There is a saying. Don't stir the SH-- it only makes it stink. As far as him should have been held to a higher moral standard. From Day one to he hasn't shown any moral standards. He has talked about the Catholics, The Jews, You name it he has covered it . That is why I said that this is nothing compared to some of the things he has said. The girls have accepted his apology. They are smart girls,
brilliant maybe. They have worked hard to get where they are at. DO you really think this is going to have a direct impact on there life. If anything it is a positive one . People see these girls and all they have achieved. Imus insulted them. They are over it.


myLot reputation of 68/100. fuzzEbluebathrobe (278)   ranked 1,325 out of 7,114 in have discussion on day to day issues  3 years ago

Thank you for proving my point sponsors feared the public would not watch Imus any more and probably knew from experience and industry statistics his audience would diminish. And guess what you are right if people decide to tune you out you are gone!
If you are still upset rappers are not held to the same moral standard then you are truly not in favor of letting market forces determine who gets the opportunity to express even controversial views publicly and get paid for it. You can not argue it both ways. The difference between the rap music industry and mainstream media is that the audiences are different. Being disgusting for rappers attracts an audience for Imus his audience is repelled. Imus did not know his audience and their tolerance threshold. Financial viability is still the determining factor.

As for the concept of forgiveness the Rutgers Women are saying this incident will no longer rule their lives and are moving on. This shows their strong moral character and says nothing about Imus. They are not saying Imus had a right to say what he did just the way rappers do as you are implying.


myLot reputation of 74/100. onabreak2 (638)   ranked 839 out of 7,114 in have discussion on day to day issues  3 years ago

I really don't think that the people that are watching him would have stopped watching him. The
sponsors pulled their ads because of pressure from Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson. They are always ready to jump in whenever anything is not politically correct. I also don't think this incident EVER ruled their life's. I don't care if people express their views. Not one bit. I don't think that was what Imus was doing. He was doing what he always does. And how can you say that Imus's audience is repelled. If they were repelled do you think they would have been watching him. I think he is just like Howard Stern and they each have their own audiences. I think if you are going to make one person accountable for saying things about a race then make everyone accountable . That includes the rappers who rap about killing people, gangs, describing how they bang their Ho's how they treat their Ho's and the list goes on. Go to the rapper web site. Type in to goodle Hip Hop lyrics and then tell me what you think. It is trash. It isn't music and kids should not be allowed to listen to it. But it all boils down to If you don't like to see it or hear it then don't listen to it. Turn it off. And if you have kids don't let them either.

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2. myLot reputation of 83/100. giftsandbagscom (12076)   ranked 200 out of 7,114 in have discussion on day to day issues   3 years ago

Imus could have thought of this before saying it. In his line of work he is use to speaking freely. I am in no way agreeing with him on this. I feel he should not have been fired for this. If the people wanted to make more money. They should have let him debate the rap world. I am a bleack woman,I will never buy a rappers music. I have had very little respect for them so far. I have a hard time getting my daughter to understand my views. I am only glad that Imus was terminated to now bring attention to the others abusers of this. The woman playing the game were disgraced. They have never done anything to deserve this. He would have done better labeling the rappers dancers and groupies. I can't understand all the people who can't see the negative way Black people treat black people. No one will ever grow to be anything better while continuing to bring down their own race. I would rather be called a nappy head ho,then have a credit card swiped through my azz. I have stopped my daughter from watching BET. She can't listen to that garbage in my house. She can't even buy a rappers music cd.


myLot reputation of 74/100. onabreak2 (638)   ranked 839 out of 7,114 in have discussion on day to day issues  3 years ago

Good for you. You are exactly right. Lol. I love the credit card remark. Maybe now that this has happened people will focus on the horrible rap music. And keep up what you are doing for your daughter. It will pay off in the long run.


myLot reputation of 83/100. giftsandbagscom (12076)   ranked 200 out of 7,114 in have discussion on day to day issues  3 years ago

I have just been shocked to see I got best response. Thanks very much for that. it makes me feel better about my choice to not buy the music. My daughter has been listening to what is on tv. Now that he has said this tacky statement about those nice girls. I just hope it goes on to help others get cleaned up in the music business. I also hope rRaven Samone never turns trashy like Beyonce has.


myLot reputation of 74/100. onabreak2 (638)   ranked 839 out of 7,114 in have discussion on day to day issues  3 years ago

Your welcome. You pretty much said it like it is . I appreciate your candor and agree with everything you said. Good Luck to you here on mylot.

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3. myLot reputation of 33/100. CarlyLaine (530)   ranked 2,242 out of 7,114 in have discussion on day to day issues   3 years ago

No one in the 'entertainment' field should be fired for what they say. I can understand having it quelled at a regular job...but this is to be a country of FREE SPEECH. And there are groups who want to legislate what we can say and what we cannot.

Just by the mere fact that so many celebrities have been called on the most minute thing indicates we are loosing that freedom.

This is what it is. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton cannot let the slavery days go. They are a two-man army out there to suppress everyone except their own. They're setting up a rediscrimination platform to put a stop to all of us to prove that they are strong. Who will stop these hate mongers? NOBODY.

Everything anymore has to do with MONEY and threats...Jackson is the threat king.

I don't agree with everything I hear..sometimes I don't like it. But BY GOLLY, that person has the right to say it.


myLot reputation of 68/100. fuzzEbluebathrobe (278)   ranked 1,325 out of 7,114 in have discussion on day to day issues  3 years ago

What you are all saying is true there is something called artistic license and no one who is an entertainer should be fired for doing what they are hired to do. Everyone knows Imus' schtick. What you are all missing the point on is that Imus was fired because he became a liability and cost CBS radio and MSNBC TV corporate sponsorship money. Its why a rapper recently was denied a spokesmanship deal for a major softdrink company. Becoming morally outraged because he lost his job and defending his right to free speech is irrelevant in this case. Raising the free speech issue here is also demeaning to people who have used the right to free speech around the world to stand up to corruption, social injustice and tyranny. Jackson and Sharpton are just part of the show they are both rediculous and are no more representative of the black community, than they are claiming, Imus represents the racist views of whites. This story would go away if people stopped talking about how we need to look at the the terrible society we have become and make sure this can't happen. That is garbage the dollar speaks Imus is gone and will reappear on Satellite Radio C'est La Vie!!

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4. myLot reputation of 94/100. Lakota12 (17316)   ranked 472 out of 7,114 in have discussion on day to day issues   3 years ago

The people that watched Imus liked the way he said things or they wouldnt have watched.
LIke you said they didnt have to watch if they didnt like him. My son in law listens to all this rap hip hop stuff and he plays it out in his car loud I have had to make him turn it down for the langage that is used in it. I dont want the neighbors or my grand daughter to hear it . She is just 2 and he thinks she wont pick up the words?
I know Imaus should have thought more before he said it and I sure hope it dosent hurt his ranch for the kids .
And this rab hip hop and what ever they want to call it is very downgrading for woman and even thier bros if they listen to their selves I wonder that they think this is good for their image at all. Thanks for the post!


myLot reputation of 74/100. onabreak2 (638)   ranked 839 out of 7,114 in have discussion on day to day issues  3 years ago

Thats right, he has his own audience and if people dont want to watch him or listen to him there is a thing called a dial and a on and off switch. They can use it I hope it doesnt hurt his ranch too. Thank you for your comment.

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