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By RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR
Associated Press Writer
 
5 months ago

WASHINGTON (AP) - First you paid to insure your car. Soon you may have to add health insurance premiums to that stack of monthly bills as well.


In a revamped health care system envisioned by senators, people would be required to carry health insurance just like motorists must get auto coverage now. The government would provide subsidies for the poor and many middle-class families, but those who still refuse to sign up would face fines of more than $1,000.


The details were unveiled Thursday in a health care overhaul bill supported by key Senate Democrats looking to fulfill President Barack Obama's top domestic priority.


The Congressional Budget Office estimated the fines would raise around $36 billion over 10 years. Senate aides said the penalties would be modeled on the approach taken by Massachusetts, which now imposes a fine of about $1,000 a year on individuals who refuse to get coverage. Under the federal legislation, families would pay higher penalties than individuals.


Called "shared responsibility payments," the fines would offset at least half the cost of basic medical coverage, according to the legislation. The goal is to nudge people to sign up for coverage when they are healthy, not wait until they get sick.


In 2008, employer-provided coverage averaged $12,680 a year for a family plan, and $4,704 for individual coverage, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation's annual survey. Senate aides, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly, said the cost of the federal plan would be lower but declined to provide specifics.


The legislation would exempt certain hardship cases from fines, which would be collected through the income tax system.


The new proposals were released as Congress neared the end of a weeklong July 4 break, with lawmakers expected to quickly take up health care legislation when they return to Washington. With deepening divisions along partisan and ideological lines, the complex legislation faces an uncertain future.


Obama wants a bill this year that would provide coverage to the nearly 50 million Americans who lack it and reduce medical costs.


In a statement, Obama welcomed the legislation, saying it "reflects many of the principles I've laid out, such as reforms that will prohibit insurance companies from refusing coverage for people with pre-existing conditions and the concept of insurance exchanges where individuals can find affordable coverage if they lose their jobs, move or get sick."


The Senate Health Education, Labor and Pensions bill also calls for a government-run insurance option to compete with private plans as well as a $750-per-worker annual fee on larger companies that do not offer coverage to employees.


Sens. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass., and Christopher Dodd, D-Conn., said in a letter to colleagues that their revised plan would cost dramatically less than an earlier, incomplete proposal, and help show the way toward coverage for 97 percent of all Americans.


The Congressional Budget Office, in an analysis released Thursday evening, put the net cost of the proposal at $597 billion over 10 years, down from $1 trillion two weeks ago. Coverage expansions worth $645 billion would be partly offset by savings of $48 billion, the estimate said.


However, the total cost of legislation will rise considerably once provisions are added to subsidize health insurance for the poor through Medicaid. Those additions, needed to ensure coverage for nearly all U.S. residents, are being handled by a separate panel, the Senate Finance Committee. Bipartisan talks on the Finance panel aim to hold the overall price tag to $1 trillion.


The Health Committee could complete its portion of the bill as soon as next week, and the government health insurance option virtually assures a party-line vote.


In the Senate, the Finance Committee version of the bill is unlikely to include a government-run insurance option. Bipartisan negotiations are centered on a proposal for a nonprofit insurance cooperative as a competitor to private companies.


Three committees are collaborating in the House on legislation expected to come to a vote by the end of July. That measure is certain to include a government-run insurance option.


At their heart, all the bills would require insurance companies to sell coverage to any applicant, without charging higher premiums for pre-existing medical conditions. The poor and some middle-class families would qualify for government subsidies to help with the cost of coverage. The government's costs would be covered by a combination of higher taxes and cuts in projected Medicare and Medicaid spending.



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tags:  fines for the uninsured, health care, health insurance, united states, health care overhaul
 
1. myLot reputation of 85/100. echomonster (2519)   5 months ago

President Obama contrasted his views on health care with those of Hillary Clinton by pointing out that she wanted health insurance to be mandatory (with fines for those that didn't comply) and he didn't. If he doesn't speak out against these fines, he's really not living up to his campaign pledges. What most everyone supports is making health care more accessible and less expensive. Congress, though, sounds like it smells an opportunity to raise some more revenue and force a mandate on people.

 
2. myLot reputation of 93/100. Youreyes4Today (835)   5 months ago

This is just totally wrong.. With the current economy, business going bankrupt, people loosing jobs, Families loosing homes, and they want to add another bill to our budgets, where if we don't have insurance we pay anyway, then on top of that get fined for it. Lets just put more stress on the People that give them the lush life they have at the capital......I don't see any of them loosing a home, or giving up salary to help the poor. I mean really help those without, not a token to make it look good.

This country is not FREE and you know what, this government was voted in on empty promises that are not being followed through with..

I said to many that you need to look at the person for who they are, not what they say, that is running for any office before you vote. Do the research on who they were before they became a candiate, don't depend on the news, or TV programs do your own research..

Anyways back to this health insurance issue, interesting they are doing this now, so when they want to pass this so called government health plan, people will go for it even if they will not get the health care they deserve in fear of the fines imposed if they don't vote for it.. They are backing us all into a corner, which will be a win win for the government to take even more money from the hard working people of this country that need it to feed their families instead of the bellies of those fat cats at the capitals.. or the insurance companies that deny us coverage for whatever reasons...... you won't see prices come down either for medical care ..

 
3. myLot reputation of 82/100. blue65packer (1707)   5 months ago

It is nice to hear this will,health insurance reform, is going to happen! I was hoping it would! Some people I know thought this would never happen! They were wrong! Now it will be interesting to see if two people I know who don't have health insurance will buy into this new system! I also know alot of people will be all for this and alot of people won't be! Nothing is perfect! If this lowers my premiums I'll be very happy! Health insurance shouldn't be unaffordable!

 
4. myLot reputation of 95/100. alindahaw (2030)   5 months ago

Wow! I am not sure I like the way things are going in this healthcare bill. Yes, it is very nice to give full coverage to everyone in the country but letting other people pay for this coverage does not seem fair. I mean, why should those people who are religiously paying their taxes and their insurance be burdened like this? I really cannot understand that.

 
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