The difference between an argument/fight and a debate/discussion?

@vega83 (6340)
Bahrain
April 29, 2007 8:36am CST
Okay this has been inspired by my last two discussions which were in turn inspired by the past few days of this week. Alright, I do like debating, a lot. But I'm not much of the fighting kind. I love discussions, but I don't like arguing. So why is it that people fail to see the clear line between these two? I guess even I might be guilty of this mix up in some point of my life too. Every now and then when I'm having a debate about anything with someone, I usually get a response at the end that sounds something like "I don't wanna fight" or it's something like "fine, you win", when actually you know that the person saying it doesn't really mean it, but is just saying it you zip your mouth up. So, what is the difference between a healthy debate and a heated argument? According to me, a debate/discussion becomes an argument/fight when any one of these three things happen. 1: When one of them starts yelling. 2: When one of them starts crying. 3: When one of them starts swearing. If those are not present, then it's still a debate/discussion where an exchange of ideas and views and opinions are taking place. What do you think? Can you differentiate between an argument and a debate? If so, how do you think they are different?
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@angelicEmu (1311)
17 Jul 07
In my opinion, a discussion is about exploring different ideas - it can involve disagreement, but it's by no means combattive or competitive - if there's a disagreement, it's not heated, it's just another point of interest to explore. A debate is generally a competition with two principal speakers who have reseached their stance, and decided upon which side they're going to argue for (regardless of their personal opinion on the subject). In a debate, there's generally an audience, who decide who has won, by who has put forward the most convincing argument. Each debater will speak in turn, and can rebutt the other person's argument, and/or come back to answer the rebuttals of their opponent. Debate is all about use of language, and being able to convince the audience. It's a form of public speaking, and as I say, it's a form of competition. This is why it's used in politics. An argument is always emotional, often hurtful, and its aim is to pull the other person down. Arguments are never constructive, and often cause problems in themselves, as people often say things either that aren't true, or are exaggerated in an argument, which the other person may think are a revelation of how they "really feel", or vice-versa. Discussion and debate are healthy and promote thought and the exploration of ideas, whereas arguing and fighting are always negative and hurtful, and are about pulling people or ideas down. This is my take on it, but many people descend into debating tactics of taking the "devil's advocate" position as a way of avoiding proper interaction and sharing of ideas in a discussion.
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19 Jul 07
Thank-you for your kind comments, and I'm glad you found my expression of the differences to be clear! Here's to healthy debate and open discussion! Good communication is absolutely essential for everyone, I think, no matter which of these forms it takes! All the best :-)
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@vega83 (6340)
• Bahrain
20 Jul 07
Hey you're welcome, and all the best to you too. Good communication rules!!
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@vega83 (6340)
• Bahrain
19 Jul 07
Yes, exactly right. So often people mistake a healthy debate for an argument. Thanks for clarifying the differences so beautifully.
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@Buchi_bulla (8298)
• India
20 Jul 07
Argument is exchange of words and discussion and debate, exchange of thoughts. There is a subtle line between the two. When there is much emotion involved, then discussion and debate will become argument and finally fight. That is unfortunate that some people do not understand the difference. Better not to start discussion with such people or else it will spoil our moods.
@vega83 (6340)
• Bahrain
21 Jul 07
Yeah, that's true, I would rather debate with my friends, where we'll have completely different opinions, and talk about them and then go and grab some lunch with no ill feelings, that's the way to do it.
• United States
29 Apr 07
You're right, when things get emotional, then it's already an argument. Most of the time, a healthy debate would end up in a heated argument. What was supposed to be mentally stimulating could get out of hand. This is because when people tend to be emotional, the thinking process tends to be overcome or blocked, so that only the feelings would rule as a protective or defensive blanket. I also hope that people would learn how to be in a healthy debate because it's very intellectual and very stimulating. We always have to keep in mind that this is not mental sparring but an exchange of intelligent opinion. That's my take on the difference between the two. Happy myLotting!
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@vega83 (6340)
• Bahrain
17 Jul 07
Well, you nailed it, healthy debates can be so interesting and mind stimulating as long as they don't get ugly, and really they shouldn't get ugly. And if people confuse it with an argument, then they just don't understand the meaning of two minds expressing themselves.
• Singapore
29 Apr 07
I guess an argument/fight starts when people start calling names and making personal attacks. In a debate/discussion, opinions are respected. You can disagree with me and it is ok - not so for the first category.
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@vega83 (6340)
• Bahrain
30 Apr 07
Yes we can mutually agree to disagree, that's a civil debate, just like we sometimes have, right? I mean, we always don't agree on everything, but we are respectful to each other.
• China
29 Apr 07
I don't know exactly about these two words, but I think maybe debate is more formal than argument. Your explanation is reasonable.
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@vega83 (6340)
• Bahrain
29 Apr 07
formal?? I don't know. I guess you could say a debate might be more civil than an argument. And a debate is usually about something substantial or something worth debating about, whereas an argument can spring form any small thing, it doesn't have to be significant.