Fences Around Pools

@lilaclady (28206)
Australia
May 7, 2007 6:50pm CST
Understanding the reasoning of laws....In Australia there are laws that if you have a swimming pool you must have a fence around it even if you have a fenced off yard, you must have a seperate pool fence, and this is regardless if you have children or not as who knows a child may climb your five or six foot fence around your yard and fall in to your pool and this sounds sensible BUT it is the trend these days for public parks and public areas to have ponds and lakes with play grounds at the side of them, there for any one to just fall in and yet they are not subject to the fenced in laws...I am afraid I just don't get it.....
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@Darkwing (21583)
8 May 07
I think it's a good safety law that all pools should have a fence around them, and preferable with a high bolt on the gate, so that children aren't able to enter in any way. But, I DO think this should apply to ALL pools and ponds, as children don't sense danger in water, and they do tend to wander. There are too many deaths in England, by water, including garden ponds and public lakes and canals. Canals can't be fenced off really... it would create a great expense but I do think all ponds, lakes and pools should be. Brightest Blessings.
@lilaclady (28206)
• Australia
8 May 07
Yes I know what you mean
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@caramello (4377)
• Australia
8 May 07
This lilaclady is another non-understanding feature of the law and you have raised a good point here. We at the moment are in the process of having to add an extension to out already 6 foot high fence because we have the fence "rungs" I think that is what you call it, on our side of the fence and our neighbours have just recently put in a pool right beside the fence, this has to be done. Mind you a swimming pool in drought times.....ummm! The extension has to be a metre high and cannot be lattice or anything that children can put their fingers in, so trying to find something to suit is quite a challenge as the fence already being so high and the strength of the winds out here we already prop it up. lol And they are only 5 years old.
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@caramello (4377)
• Australia
8 May 07
Are you in a fenced off block as I find having to do this around a pond quite interesting? If you know the law about pools and fencing what about the above ground pools? Was last night watching a piece on Carl Williams and a part of it was regarding his parents' home and out the back was an above ground pool without any fencing at all! Found this to be quite interesting at the time as they like us do not have young children around and yet we still have to extend our fence!
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@lilaclady (28206)
• Australia
8 May 07
Yeh I wanted to have a natural looking fish pond in my yard but I was told I would have to have that fenced off as well as it was over the depth of what was allowed and I don't have children but I couldn't see a natural looking pond looking good with a fence around it, it just annoys me when the local park can have one unfenced...oh well I got over the thought of having a pond so maybe in the end it saved me.
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@feralwoman (2199)
• Australia
8 May 07
No Lilaclady, I don't get it either. Here in Victoria there was a case of a man buying a property with a pool. He demolished the existing house and rebuilt it. In the process his backyard was turned into a building site and he also had a pool which had no fence around it because it was empty. A small boy went for a wander one day and fell into the pool and drowned as it had since filled up with rain water. What I don't understand is - where were the parents during all this. Don't they keep an eye on their kids and know where they are? I think parents should take a lot more responsibility, it seems that everyone else is to blame except them. lol
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@rosie_123 (6113)
8 May 07
Well that does seem strange. I can appreciate the sense of having a law fencing in any water for the safety of children, but why that doesn't apply also to lakes in public parks seems very odd to me. As DarkWing said, we often have tragedies here in the UK when children are drowned in household ponds etc, so I think the Australian law is a very good one.
• Australia
8 May 07
I know what you mean about the parks with lakes and ponds. They should have a fence around them. Even if it is a small one so children know not to go in them. It is the parents responsability to keep an eye on their cildren while they are at the park and be with them when they are near the water. But fences around your pool at home is reasonable enough to understand as there are less parents around than there is at a park.
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@lilaclady (28206)
• Australia
8 May 07
I guess what I find silly is, I don't have children but do have a five foot fence around my property, I would have to have a seperate fence around my pool when when there is a park down the sreet with no fence and an open lake filled with water.... :)
• Australia
8 May 07
Yes i do agree with you that having to put up a high fence around your pool when you have a high fence to keep people out is silly. But i think that if you have granchildren or friends with kids over and they go outside when you's stay inside it is safer. I agree that all lakes and ponds should have a fence around them to keep children safe.
@abbey19 (3106)
• Gold Coast, Australia
8 May 07
I completely agree with you about the fencing laws here in Australia. It doesn't make sense to fence a pool in our backyard, yet ponds and lakes in public places are not fenced; they are just as dangerous to our children. Parents shouldn't take their eyes off their children around water anyway. I realize it would be a great expense for public water areas to be fenced, but there must be a solution. Good discussion lilaclady.
• United States
23 Jun 07
In the USA, many different states do their own thing. Some require a fence, other states do not. I think it is a good idea, as little toddlers won't climb it as fast as a child, and that is some help.
@babystar1 (4233)
• United States
2 Sep 07
I dont understand it either.We also have to have a fence around the yard if you have a pool in your back yard. But if you have a pond you dont have to have a fence. There are a lot of people that live here that have ponds and they are not fenced off.
@Katlady2 (9904)
• United States
8 May 07
I don't get it either hon. You'd think that since they could enforce that kind of safety law for a person's own home, they could do the same in a public area where the danger is even higher of a child, or even an adult, getting hurt or worse.
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@cempires (171)
• United States
1 Sep 07
yes, fences are always a good idea with structures such as pools, not just for children, but adults, and even some animals that may be wandering around in the night and fall in. Our neighbor down the block found his cat floating in thier pool one morning, altho they have no idea how this happened
@twoey68 (13627)
• United States
11 Aug 07
I don't get it eaither although we have the same law here that if you have a pool it has to have a fence around it. It does seem odd that the same rule doesn't apply to ponds and lakes like you said. AT PEACE WITHIN
• Canada
8 May 07
It's not just fences that are needed in parks and so on, it's lifeguards! In Ontario, my partners father runs a park. They have a pool, this pool has a secure fence round it, along with a pool house AND lifeguards are there at all times. Same with the lake. The lake unfortunately, is too big to be fenced off, but there are warning signs everywhere that it's deep, and that kids need to be supervised at all times. I've seen so many lakes and ponds that don't have these warning signs and it never fails to amaze me. Some parents just don't watch their kids as it is, and if their child drowns, it'll be the park owner that gets sued for not having appropriate warnings or safety measures.
@karvin87 (1033)
• India
8 May 07
Hmmmm...i agree with u and with wat u said! We have a swimmingpool in our building wiothout fences and we have been telling builder to put in for security reasons. I too feel why to take a chance and let an accident happen for us too learn something, instead why dont we take early precautions...neways my problem is still on stay as the work in not in his scope, but i doo agree with u and hope the law firms get a more serious as far as security of the citizen is concerned! cheeerrrs!
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@tredale (1309)
• Australia
25 Jun 07
hi lilaclady I have also felt this way about pool fencing, when I was younger and would stay at my nanna house who had a pool and got a hefty fine for leaving the gate open, which made them laugh because across the road was the ocean and one house down was a lake. Silly really
@carolynpb (647)
• United States
20 May 07
I don't get it that you have to have a fence around your pool even when your yard is fenced. But what it boils down to is that parents don't watch their children like they should so they make laws to protect kids since there are parents that don't. I would think public places would be subject to that law if private places are! It's stupid really that they aren't. Like you..I don't get it!
8 May 07
I would have thought it would make perfect sense to have all ponds, pools and lakes fenced in public spaces. It is so dangerous when you have any water features in public parks, where children are running around playing, anything could happen and it would happen so quickly too.
@shakeroo (3986)
• Malaysia
14 May 07
The swimming pool can be a really dangerous place for kids. They can easily get drowned if unsupervised. In my country, public swimming pools and even private swimming pools do not have to erect any security fences around them. We do have some drowning cases from time to time. I wonder whether the fences are good enough or a swimming pools must be supervised at all time.
@4cuteboys (4099)
• United States
8 May 07
Yes! I think it's dangerous to have ponds by playgrounds and no fencing. Here where we live, there is a playground my kids like to go to, but I rarely ever take them to it, because there is a huge pond right next to it, all it would take would be for them to fall and roll a little and they'd be in! And since I have four kids I feel too nervous because I might miss one of them going near it if one of the others has a problem. I don't get it either. I think it would be a good safety measure for them to fence those areas too.
@ashar123 (2357)
• India
27 May 07
Yes I do agree wiht you on having fences around your personal pool as there must be privacy of enjoying and relaxing.
• United States
4 Jun 07
I can see some logic in all of this. You see in these public places there tends to be a lot more people around, and as such usually many more chances to help someone if they get in trouble in the water. In private yards some unwatchful parent next door might not realize their child snuck over to the neighbors pool. The pool owner not knowing to even LOOK for the kid, wouldn't notice (if they were even at home) and the kid might drown. It's simple, if a little odd.