Human Genetic Engineering/Eugenics (Needs, Wants, or Something Else)

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Greetings friends and mylotters. Especially those of you who've been starting threads about how there are no quality discussions. Well here goes one, take it or leave it. This one should be a 120%er. Maybe even beyond that. Topic. Title says it all. What do you think about Human Genetic Engineering? I know there's like one or two very old discussions on it and a religious thread scraped the subject in some of its responses, but... I'm still posting the discussion and topic. Do you think as a species we'll see real genetic engineering on humans? It could be in the near future or further in the future. Or not at all. Cloning is also included in this discussion too, just to clarify. I mean, there are some meaningful things that it could be applied to (blindness, crippling/atrophy, other general deficiencies). Or do you think humans will continue the idiot bandwagon and use it for some of the most superficial reasons applicable? Even though its next to worthless even the alphabet soup news and shows have covered this but far and few times. The cynic in me also points to this scenario with relative ease. I can just see baby designer clinics now -_-. And thats a moderate end of the subject. What if real (virtually limitless) understanding and manipulation occurs and can be applied on adults and children, not just the unborn? I could see many going in for genetic solutions to superficial problems or for narcissistic reasons. Do you think it'll be esoteric or open to all? Its possible governments and perhaps corporations could use it only, be it legally or in secret. And this could be because of the ethical implications to society or the perceived irresponsibility of people when dealing with the subject. It could also be possible this eugenics becomes completely legal and public, perhaps even on-demand for those that want it. Again, since this is possibilities and guesswork it's open to interpretation. What of the ethics of it all? Because its a pretty open topic dealing with the hypothetical, all reasonable arguments are welcome. Religious, semi-religious, non-religious, legal(possible future legality). Go for it. I'll present some "target dummy" arguments to turn more of the brain cells in your head. Some might say that its unfair they are short and that its been their Achilles Heel in several cases (and its a real SOL if its a guy -_-). Others might have worked hard at losing weight as another example, I mean full exercises, a diet that would make most people cry in insanity...but they are still overweight/obese (I know a couple of people like this =/) Can they still be considered human? This can apply to clones if you want to respond to that, or to modified humans (which I will dub Augments). Are they still human? Even though genes were modified or they are a copy of another person... And this question I have to ask just for a figure of what opinion is. I'd at least say humanity shouldn't be cloning people for slave labor, spare parts, breeding stock, etc (and there goes more points for question 4). Anything I missed? Take it away people. Maybe you've got a thought or several about this. Shoot. You can answer what you want, or just respond in general. Happy posting. And yes expect more science/hypothetical science threads from me, since supposedly discussions aren't so great.