Yankee Ingenuity : DOES IT AGAIN !

United States
October 25, 2007 7:00am CST
Throwing large amounts of money at a problem does not promise one the best result. Here's a story of how some "Good'ol boys" in North Carolina have made the world of theoritical physics sit up and take notice. http://www.ncsu.edu/featured-stories/innovation-discovery/oct-2007/antimatter-nuclear/index.php They did it on a low budget, too! So, let's here your real or even imagined uses for a positron beam. How about, uncutting, unslicing, rejoining, and putting things back together that have been separated by a laser beam, a type of electron beam? Of course, there must be some interesting weapons possible with this device. What's you ideas? Or comment on the achievement. How about explain how we can even have anti-matter in this universe?
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@theprogamer (10532)
• United States
26 Oct 07
I thought they'd be the ones to do it. Those "good ol boys" are usually on the bleeding edge of nuclear physics and application. Some other strides were made into the field of antimatter applications both theoretical and real discovery. Anti-hydrogen for example in 1990s. Antiprotons is a bit more common to produce but other high end projects and labs go for producing anti-hydrogen. Some even store it for research purposes and others are sent to medical labs for application in that field. Unfortunately current technology produces very little antiprotons, and barely any anti-hydrogen; both at very high costs ($25+ million just for production and more for storage) for such minuscule amounts. Storing antiprotons is difficult due to it being repellent to each other and antiparticles needs to be cooled significantly for its storage. As for antimatter applications Antimatter telescope/microscope - to explore the atomic structure of elements and materials in a different fashion. Already used somewhat in the medical profession but with more research atomic structures of objects can be studied even further than the highest standards. Antimatter inverter - an item capable of producing specific antiprotons and antielectrons through a more refined present method or through exposing a piece of simple matter to the machine. With refinement an anti-element(anti-oxygen for example) can form. With the inverter problems of creating antiprotons and antimatter(currently anti-hydrogen) might be bypassed. Fuel/Propulsion - this is due to the annihilation of antimatter with matter and the resultant kinetic energy that occurs. Currently it is very costly to make antiprotons and antimatter as well as store it. If production was better, it would only take several grams to serve as a fuel for short distance space travel (to Mars or Venus). The efficiency of antimatter fuel is in question, since some models require deuterium and/or tritium to fuse with it to have an efficient energy source backing the antimatter production since current power sources are not up to the task of producing antimatter efficiently. Gamma ray or particle weapons (small weapons)- again, by pairing matter and antimatter and then releasing them on command or trigger, powerful reactions occur depending on what element or items are positive and anti. Depending on the strength, this weapon could range from radioactive bombardment to direct and heavy photonic based attacks (lasers). It can even be worse than that, if the weapon is one that exposes matter to antimatter directly (annihilation, vaporation). This one will definitely take time as well, since collecting the antiprotons/antimatter and storing it into this application will be difficult; at least the handhelds, larger weapons though very costly would at least have the storage facilities in order. Not to mention producing a stable enough positron or antimatter fueled photonic weapon. Don't count on seeing any real "pew pewing" anytime soon. Larger Antimatter weapons - researched since the Cold War. The interest in the larger weapons varies, but one main point is the 100% conversion of matter to energy. Like described in the smaller weapons, the type of antimatter application is also considered. Some of these weapons could be giant lasers but its more likely they could be direct matter annihilation bombs. With direct use and annihilation, there is no (or very little)radioactivity, unlike a standard atomic weapon. The force of a direct weapon also depends on the matter around the bomb when its used. And to put it in perspective, a kilogram of antimatter when annihilated releases energy close to the amount released in a 20 megaton bomb detonation (and this is after the loss of energy in pions. the real energy conversion would be a 41 megaton bomb without the loss of pions in the reaction). Future antimatter production - currently only antiprotons/particles and anti-hydrogen can be produced by technology and its very expensive to do, ranging in $25-35 million for just a few particles. Storage (the cooling of the anti items) is also expensive. If production technology improved eventually nuclear scientists and research institutions could produce atomically heavier anti-elements like Anti-helium, Anti-Lithium, Anti-Beryllium, Anti-Boron, Anti-Carbon, Anti-Oxygen, just to name some likely ones. It would most likely be Anti-helium produced next due to the present difficulty of producing Anti-hydrogen. Storage will still be an issue due to the difficulties storing anti-hydrogen. Other issues - apparently antimatter is located in the Van Allen's belt around the earth and other planets in the Sol system. NASA hopes to harvest it through magnetic means in order to use it for spacetravel. Phew... Long one. But science is pretty great, so posts like this can happen.
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• United States
26 Oct 07
A long post but a good one. I have not seriously studied sub atomic particles since 1970. The vast majority of what you have written is new to me. My sub atomic physics is as out of date as my astronomy. Thanks, for the education.
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@theprogamer (10532)
• United States
26 Oct 07
Don't feel bad if you aren't up to speed on even a little of this Red. A lot of it is theoretical and the known/applied science of everything else is esoteric.
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• Thailand
25 Oct 07
Good old boys with a nuclear reactor. Now that's a scary thought. When I first read your article without going to the link I imagined some good old boys, outback, under Magnolia tree rewiring of 57 Ford to somehow produce a positron beam. Weapons applications aside, I think one of the most exciting possibilities is that it might be quite useful as an interstellar drive. Using it for uncutting and slicing, rejoins and putting things back together, would seem to be a rather limited applications since you apparently need a nuclear reactor to make it work. I don't think the world is quite ready for a nuclear powered welding machine. Interesting stuff, though. Thanks for posting.
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• United States
25 Oct 07
I confess to having seen so many tv commercials and having heard so many radio commercials that the knack for how to make something seem more interesting or factually different than what it really is has rubbed off on me. It is true that these "good'ol boys" mostly have PH.D.s. It makes for a more interesting story when leaving that out. Glad you liked the story.
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@theprogamer (10532)
• United States
26 Oct 07
*Me: Continues working under the magnolia tree...* XD Sorry I had too ;p I'll give my full response after this Red. And good thoughts too Chiang, I'll try to touch on those applications and more.
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@estherlou (5015)
• United States
20 Nov 07
It's a little over my head. It took several years to accomplish what they did, which to the layman, doesn't sound like a lot. I am sure there will be many uses and benefits of this breakthrough, but they will probably be a long time away. Whatever scientific applications they can think up, I am sure there will be someone somewhere which will see all of their new ideas in another light and think of how it all could be used for weaponry. We'll just have to wait and see what develops.
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• United States
20 Nov 07
All inventions of mankind sooner or later get used as weapons. If nothing else, anything can be used as the classic, "blunt instrument". Except I guess for software and algorithms, but they have their own ways of being used as weapons. As to how this all developes, see the programmer's response above. The sky is the limit with this stuff.
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@urbandekay (18278)
26 Oct 07
Yep, nothing to beat shed-technology, remember when that chap here, in his shed, detected and tracked the stealth bomber, with his home made equipment. all the best urban
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• United States
26 Oct 07
Sorry about that. I was doing a little bait and switch to get people to read it. Even still, they did underspend their competition by quite a bit. It really is a story of Americans doing a whole lot more with less. That part is true. As to the stealth bomber, it has a tremendous security flaw as to its stealthyness. It is not in the least bit unrealistic that a private individual could figure out a way to detect the stealth bomber at a distance. I will not say how.
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@urbandekay (18278)
26 Oct 07
Oh, just read the article, seems I misinterpreted your discussion, thought you meant this advance came from outside academic circles. all the best urban
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