our first border collie

United States
November 27, 2007 2:17pm CST
We got a border collie from the shelter recently. She does well with potty training, tricks, etc but we can't get her to stop jumping on us and biting our ankles? I know it has a lot to do with the breed. Does anyone have any training tips?
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@urbandekay (18278)
27 Nov 07
Hi, I have two Border Collies, mum and her daughter. Mum I rescued from from a bad home and when I got her she was chasing cars, etc. Collies, thinks I, need a little bit different handling for two reasons. One, they are a little bit more wolf than most dogs; a Collie chasing sheep is just being a wolf with exceptional self-control (Or submission to the head wolf - the shepherd) Secondly they are more intelligent than other dogs. The second facet makes then keen and fast to learn the former makes them rather independent and wilful. You don't say how old she is? Nor when this behaviour occurs. Nor what practices you follow with the dog. Always feed her after you, never let her walk through a door in front of you; a leader leads! Both my cogs have gone through stages when they wanted to bite me, in fact the pup tries jumps up and tries to bite me every time I get her to walk at heal. I ignore it and continue with the lesson. The mum had a real possession aggression problem when I got her and would bite if I tried to take anything off her. I cured this by pinning her down and holding her throat (Holding her throat not strangling her) till she submitted then once she submitted I rubbed her tum till she was happy. Now even if she has a favourite bone I can walk up to her and take it off her. all the best urban
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• United States
27 Nov 07
thanks for the help. Our dog was still considered a puppy when we got her 2 months ago but we think she is now about 12 months old. We have gone through 2 training classes but she has a hard time with those since there are so many other dogs she can't focus as she has to show everyone that she is the loudest one. Her biting is mostly when my husband comes home from work - she goes right for his feet and if we have slippers on she doesn't like them. Sometimes she will nip at the kids if they are running around so I know this is the herding instinct we read about but it scares them. I have tried a similar dominance hold that the trainer taught us and that helps sometimes. Of course we never know what kind of home life she had before we got her so I try to take this into consideration. We won't give up, just should have researched the breed more before we took her home - but who can resist an adorable border collie?
@urbandekay (18278)
27 Nov 07
Well, I agree with you, I find them absolutely irresistible. Ok, it is always hard to diagnose these problems at a distance but from what you have just said I think her biting your husbands feet and slippers is an invitation to play. Collies are working dogs, a happy Collie is one that has at least 4 hours of intense exercise a day; mine chase me in my Landie at 15mph amongst other things, and that also is mentally occupied. Experiments show Collies can learn command words as fast as a human child acquires vocabulary! How do you occupy the dog during the day? To the dog your children are a different species, they movements are sharper and they are a different size and smell different and interact with the head wolves (Your husband and you) as subordinates therefore, unless they have been socialised specifically to children in the crucial 6-12 week period of their life they may not recognise them as part of the pack, in which case they are either prey-species or subordinate wolves. It will be hard but tell your kids to stand still; the dog nips the child to turn it. Keep your voice low and soft you may be surprised what a calming effect this can have. Use a special food to train with and do not give the dog that food at any other time. Remember, training any animal is half about training yourself. Use regular training sessions. If the dogs fails a particular task, retreat to an easier one and reward it for completing that, always finish a session on success and praise. Never hit or shout at the dog, that is attention from the head wolf and all attention even being hit is a good result for the dog. Generally, turn away and ignore bad behaviour. If you really need to, OCCASIONALLY, you can use the ultimate punishment. Shut the dog out of your presence. For a wolf to be excluded from the pack is very frightening. Let the dog sleep in your room but not on your bed; the pack sleeps together. But sleeping on your bed encouraging dominance. Give the dog plenty of toys, a basket in the living room as well as the bedroom. all the best urban
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@craisy (31)
• United States
22 Jun 08
My border collie is 9, we have had her since she was 1 1/2 years, and I don't know her past because she can be very skittish at times. The nipping at the ankles is part of the breed and herding instinct. The jumping has subsided a little in the past couple of years with age. I'm just happy she can still jump and is happy to see us, we just have to control her when visitors come over.