Super Delegates

I really don't see Gore as a viable candidate for President. I am no expert but I think Obama supporters would have a real hard time swallowing that Gore/Obama ticket considering his large lead. Clinton lost the Texas Caucuses by a wide margin which is why Obama won Texas, it has nothing to do with the Supers, they just have a strange way of voting in Texas. A Prima-caucus as some call it. Senator Clinton actually only won the primary vote due to Rush Limbaugh's call for the Rep's to vote against Obama to screw the Dem's. Since his call to arms her Republican voters has spiked ridiculously. I'm curious where you are hearing these rumors though because Gore is not even on the radar for me. If anything I see Gore, Pelosi and Dean endorsing Obama if he can pull an upset win over Clinton in one of her upcoming states where she is looking strong in or when it becomes even more obvious she's very, very far behind in pledged delegates and the popular vote. Senator Clinton just has to hope Obama stumbles really badly on something but based off how well he handled the Wright situation her odds are getting slimmer and slimmer. I think the Richardson endorsement will open the door for more Supers to sway Obama's way as that's the only place Senator Clinton still has a slim lead on Obama. If a few more influential people endorse Obama (perhaps Edwards?) then it will be pretty much over for Senator Clinton.

I feel like moving to Canada. I live in NY, we have our share of troubles. Spitzer looked just like Obama when he was running for Governor. I heard the same "I'll make changes" crap and oh, everyone talked about what an honest guy he is. Now all these things are surfacing about our new Governor. What a mess.

Hello Bobmnu, I was formerly a member of the Democrat Party. The unjust antics of the party are what caused me to abandon it. The creation of Super Delagates was one such abuse of The People's trust. And, if memory serves me, the Democrat Party did not create this grossly unjust super delegate practice until the 1980s. As I recall, they did so after the rise of the 'Reagan Democrats', as a way of robbing the members of the party from the power to affect the direction of the party. To be sure, this elitist, undemocratic practice stinks to high heaven! The Republicans do not have Super Delegates, nor does any other party that I am aware of! As a resident of NM, I can attest to Bill Richardson being a tyrannical, self-serving slob. The damage he has done to my state, as its Governor, is unforgivable. His self-serving nature is clearly demonstrated in his 'Super Delegate' support of Obama. New Mexico's Democrats clearly gave the caucus nomination to Clinton, and not to Obama. So, this demonstrates to every American that Bill Richardson, and seemingly other super delegates have no intention of using their elitist power to represent the voters of their party! As the same is true of Kerry and Kennedy's super delegate nods countering the will of The People. Grrrrr! As for a Gore/Obama ticket in 2016: If this is the rumor among Democrats, then it would seem that they intend to lose in the '08 General Election. Why else would they be looking at a 2016 ticket? Unless they are giving Hillary more than the prevailing wisdom of a 10% chance of winning the Primary Nomination. If these rumors are circulating among the Democrat 'powers that be', then I'd think that they should instead be focusing on the problems plaguing the party, and its ability to vet quality candidates. Which it would seem, indicate the possible reasons why they will lose in '08, and perhaps in 2012. The Democrat party is a wreck! And, this notion of Super Delegates clearly demonstrates this. They have no faith in the average voter -- why else would they empower entrenched politico's with the ability to override the will of their base?

I think this is the very thing that will help John McCain win the general election. Which ever side ends up being the nominee, the other side will be upset and their supporters will not turn out in November. They will need all the support from both sides to win, but one side will stay home, saying that their votes don't matter. This will be especially true of Obama supporters if Hillary wins the nomination on Super Delegates. As for Gore, he will not excite the independents that Obama and Hillary have gotten. I can't imagine anyone that Gore would excite, other than the extreme Left.

Gotta love the drama! All this plus now Hillary has been caught, uh, embellishing the truth about her travels to Bosnia. Personally, I haven't heard any such rumors about Al Gore stepping into the presidential race. Heck, despite this very cold winter that we've had, Mr. Gore is quite comfortable in his position of promoting the myths associated with global warming for which, as you may recall, he won a lucrative Nobel prize. Why would anyone in that position want to be president and, particularly in Mr. Gore's case, risk the embarrassment of losing an election for the presidency - for the second time? As for the Super Delegates, aren't those the delegates with the capes and the big "D" on their shirts? (see http://www.squidoo.com/DemocraticNationalConvention )

Please tell me it's true that the democrats have lost whatever gumption they have left and would disenfranchise almost half of their voter base by slipping Al Gore into the fray! Please tell me it is true! Al Gore, the biggest loser in the history of the presidency! That's sure gonna make some democrats want to vote!

I just noticed this thread. Funny, how even when things change, they remain the same. Some things have definitely changed in the last two months and it doesn't look like Obama is going to have to settle for the Vice Presidency but it's clearer than ever that the good ole boys are running the show.

::grinding teeth:: you know its things like this that really make think that there is no reason why the people should bother to go out and vote! i bet there hasnt been an election that WASNT decided by the "back room boys"..for decades at least! and how can they "give" their delegates?! every election i get more and more disgusted, frustrated and the sense of "why bother" gets stronger.

I love how "worried" so many Republicans are about the Democratic nomination. Do I detect a little panic here...lol? Seriously, I did a post about the Super Delegates entitled "What's a Super Delegate to Do?" and Governor Richardson's endorsement of Obama is an example of what I wrote about. He chose to go with the candidate with the most delegates and the most popular votes so far, and it doesn't look like it's possible for Hillary to catch up but because he went against his state he's being criticized. Of course, if he HAD gone along with his state he'd have gotten it too, right? I'm not thrilled at all with the whole SD idea. It came to be because of the division in the party after the 1980 battle between Kennedy and Carter, but it wasn't meant to take away the voters' voices. Anyway, here we are 28 years later and most people had never heard of them until now. I don't like the GOP's idea of "winner take all" primaries personally and, let's face it, for those of you who aren't thrilled with McCain, you probably wouldn't be stuck with him if you had the apportioned delegate system like we do in most states. As for the "rumors" about Al Gore, this isn't going to happen and everyone knows it. I wish I had something to offer if it did! When it comes down to it with all the attacks on Hillary and Obama from each other, the media and the GOP you'd think McCain would have a huge lead in the polls; he doesn't, which tells me once the dust settles and people get to know him we're going to be looking at one heck of a landslide in the Dems favor, whichever candidate gets the nod. Annie