I Hurt. Why Does It Hurt?

United States
April 3, 2008 3:25am CST
My husband and I have been fighting for days. I finally asked him for a separation, but before we could discuss the terms of it, my stepdad walked up and started chatting mindlessly and WOULD NOT LEAVE. Anyway. Then my husband tried to make up with me, and I went along with it for a day or so. Until today. His ex-wife called, saying that she was sick and tired of Her Son coming home telling about how My Son hits him and bites him and throws sticks and rocks at him and getting away with it. My son will be 3 on Monday. WHAT THE HELL?! He hasn't bitten ANYONE in at least 18 months, the only time he ever threw a rock at my stepson was the day She dropped him off, and she SAW me smack his fanny for it! Granted, he does climb all over my stepson, but he's only trying to play with him! And he only hits when my stepson screams at him for no reason. My husband says that I've never loved His First Son the way I love My Son, and that I've always made a very obvious difference in the two. Well, duh! I've never been "allowed" to get close enough to his son for me to form any kind of real bond with him, the best I feel I can do at this point is just get along. I suppose I'm being childish when I say that I'm sick of My Son getting physically hurt and emotionally roller-coastered by his brother, and that He and I will just stay with my mom for the weekend when my stepson is here. At least, that's what my husband says. I don't intend for it to go on indefinitely, just for a couple of weekends to see how it works. My husband and I got into a screaming and shoving match on Tuesday, and I had my stepson take my son into his bedroom and play for a few minutes while we finished. I said plenty that I shouldn't have, as happens in a fight, including telling my husband that he had nothing for my stepson but empty threats and the kid's mom has nothing but empty promises. I also screamed at my husband that I was better than everyone in his family and that his father and older sister were the only ones worth a damn in their entire family (all children and spouses excluded). Of course, my stepson had his ear stuck to the crack in the door and went and told my mother-in-law and his own mother "exactly" what I said, misquoting me as usual. So the Ex had something to say about me talking bad about her in front her son, too. Granted, I shouldn't have, but I was also fighting with my husband, and my stepson had no business listening in or carrying tales in the first place. So now, I've asked my husband to go to marriage counseling. He won't. Dear Abby always says that if you can't get the spouse to go with you, to just go by yourself. But what happens when you can't afford marriage counseling in the first place? Do you just get a divorce instead of trying to work it out? I want to work it out, but I think too much has been said and done by both me and my husband for him to care anymore. Is a separation a good idea? Should we separate and then look into marriage counseling? This is the second time a separation has been brought up, and the first was by him on Mother's Day 2006. I feel like my heart has been ripped out and stomped on time and time again, and I know he feels the same way. Is there any point in trying to stay together if it's all going to happen again? I've looked into something called "Retrouvaille". Does anyone know of this program? Does it work? It's supposed to cost less than traditional marriage counseling, but it's a weekend trip and they ask for a "donation to help cover the weekend expenses", but that "no couple is ever denied the chance to heal and renew their marriage because of lack of funds". Should we try it? How do I talk him into going with me, cause there's always an excuse (i.e. our weekend to have stepson, work conflicts, previous plans, etc.) I was 19 when we married, and his son was 5. I've never been "first", and I never expected to be, but I did expect to be a little bit higher on the kept-happy-by-MY-husband chain than his ex-wife. He told me that by taking my son away for the weekend is making him choose between his sons. I don't see it that way, just as a chance for him to spend a little more quality time with His First Son, and keep my son from getting his feelings hurt because "Brother doesn't want to play right now, I'm watching wrestling." I don't expect my husband to choose between his kids, and the idea never crossed my mind until he said something. But is it really too much to ask for him to choose me and my happiness and our marriage over the "happiness" of his ex-wife? Bear in mind that she can't keep his son from him, even if she tried. Police intervention, you know. I've never cheated on him, I'm a great mom to our little boy, and while I'm not a great housekeeper, I manage. I'm tired of feeling like I don't measure up. I'm tired of fighting and (in the middle of the fight) being told that I never measured up in the first place. I'm tired of dealing with attitude from my stepson and his mom, and my husband says he is, too. But he doesn't act like it, and no longer defends me to his ex. I'm tired of crying. I'm just...tired. Period. I have no money, and no options. Thanks for letting me vent. I appreciate all of you here. One of these days I'll start some funny discussions instead of "ranting" ones!
2 responses
@Darkwing (21583)
3 Apr 08
Wow, my friend, this is one heck of a situation to be in, but you obviously love your husband, in that you want to get counselling and try to keep your marriage alive. The way I see it, your hubby cares for you, but he's not considerate of your feelings as far as his sons are concerned. It's only natural for a mother to love her own son more, when she's with him every day, and only seeing his other son at weekends, or alternate weekends, especially as the other son is intent on causing problems for you. Also, you didn't know the other son until he was five, and you missed the mother/child "bonding" process, during his early years. I'm trying to think of a way for you to gain the other son's respect, but he's obviously "jealous" that his father is with your son constantly, and he only gets to see him at weekends, so he's trying to get his dad's attention, and get "one up" on your son by tittle-tattling to his mother. I think, perhaps, rather than taking yourself and your son away at weekends when the other son visits, it might be worthwhile chatting with your hubby about ways to bond the family and welcome his son in more. If your hubby knows you're trying, and have agreed on a strategy, then the ex's complaints will be so obviously unfounded. It needs working at, but if you really want to stay together and form a tight bond which she can't break, then I think this is what you have to work on. I'll try to give you some suggestions... I used to be live-in housemother in a children's home, and sometimes the kids used to fall out. I had my own two boys there, and obviously, I loved my own two boys more than the other kids, but I had to try and find "middle ground", so that the other eight wouldn't feel left out. I had two days off each week, where a stand-in came in and looked after the kids until I came home at night, so I did get two days a week quality time with my own boys, and I had a separate room, where I could take my own boys for a couple of hours family time. Ok... for the rest of the time, when we were all together, I gave the kids their chores, just like I would have done for my natural family. They rotated from day to day... things like laying the table, taking out the dirty dishes, putting the trash out, washing and wiping up, etc. etc. If they didn't do their chores, they didn't get their pocket money, but I rarely had any trouble. Whilst they were doing their chores, I would hang around them and chat with them, in an attempt to make chores an enjoyable thing. I "involved" them and taught them to work together as a team. They all attended school, so at weekends, I would pack a picnic, with their help, (they'd each have their own backpacks with their picnic in, and all the same, unless they had a dislike for a particular item, which was then replaced). We'd set out for the local park, more often than not... sometimes to the adventure playground, in the woods... where we used to have great fun. Nobody was given anything more than the others and they were all encouraged to join together and have fun... which they did. Ok, we had little minor disputes, but they were soon sorted when I found them something to do together. The park is sort of cut into the side of the hills, so there's a high bank, all the way round. Now, don't laugh, but I used to join in with this, as part of my bonding process... I was only 26 at the time, but I thought they'd enjoy themselves more if I joined in, so "fate to the wind!" ha ha ha. I joined in walking to the top of the bank, and rolling down with them. It was frightening at times, but they thought it was great that I joined in, and were more willing... even the withdrawn little girl... to play together. We also played football and other ball games, as a team... nobody was allowed to stay out. (Sorry... long story). We'd have caravan holidays too, and great times on the beach, collecting shells and unusual stones in a bucket. Obviously, with little money, you couldn't afford a weekend away or something, but you could put nature to use, in a bonding process between the two boys. Rather than take your son away when the other comes for the weekend, tell your hubby you think the marriage is worth saving, and that you want to try your best to welcome his other son as a family member, and to gain his trust and respect; that the constant divide is giving you pain. Love is a different thing... you can't possibly be expected to love him in the same way as you do your own child, but you can love him as a child, as I did the kids in the home. I'm assuming from your post, that his other son is an only child, and is used to not having to share with other kids, except when at school, so he's claiming his dad and his territory, I think. Well, make your presence felt, and that of your own son's, but try to welcome him into the family, and teach him that you'll care for him, unconditionally, and that going home telling tales to his mother won't wash with you. Make it a two-way thing... you try your best, and involve him so that he tries his best too. Give him something exciting to go home and tell his mum. You could even do as I did, and give the boys pencil/pen and an exercise book, and each time you go out, encourage them to sit down and write about what they enjoyed about the trip, what made them happy, whether they would like to do it again, what they saw, where they would like to go next time... the same place or somewhere else, etc, etc. Obviously your son can't write but he can draw pictures and they'll tell you a story. For instance, if he draws the both of them playing together, you know he enjoys the other son's company. There are lots of things you can do for free, the park, the beach (if you're close), the woods, anything adventurous or nature based. Kids love it. I don't know how you feel about this, but I think if you can create harmony within your own home, and make your hubby's other son feel "wanted", without excluding your own son, then half your problems will be solved. The initial key is to talk with your hubby and make him understand how much you want to welcome his son into the family unit, and for him to be happy when he visits. Thus, I feel, you'll avert a lot of arguments between you and won't be looking over your shoulders all the time, for somebody to "blame?" In fact, there will be no grounds for blame, because the tales to the boy's mum will be ones of fun and happiness. Good luck with this. It could be a long, uphill climb, but with perseverance and understanding, you'll get there, I'm sure. I think I have your e-mail address, so perhaps I can check with you how things are going? I'd really like to help. Brightest Blessings. x
• United States
3 Apr 08
Thank you so much for your advice. I feel as though I'm beating my head against a brick wall with all of this. I would absolutely love to hear from you. How are your friends, by the way? I hope they are doing as well as they can under the circumstances. I also hope your leg isn't giving you too much trouble! Thank you again for your advice and caring.
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@Darkwing (21583)
3 Apr 08
My friends are still struggling to come to terms with things, but they're hoping she'll be released from hospital this week. Her pelvis is taking some time to heal so she will have to spend time in bed when she does come home, and well, there's a twist to the story, which makes her afraid to go out of the house. They're pagan, just as I am. So, I'm in the process of purchasing a protection amulet, and already have a protective pouch with gemstones and protective runes in it, which I hope to get down to her before the end of the month. I'm hoping that when cleansed, blessed and charged, these will give her some comfort and perhaps help her get her confidence back. I'm sure they'll help in some small way. As for my leg, I have good days and not so good, but I can get out and about when the weather's not too bad. The damp and cold seem to affect it but this week, it's much warmer and sunnier, so I'm hoping soon to get out for some walks, so as to exercise it better. I hope you can sort out something with your hubby. I'm sure things can be turned around some way. Brightest Blessings, my dear friend. x
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@Darkwing (21583)
14 Apr 08
Thank you for BR, my dear friend. I so hope you're managing to find a way around these issues, as I know how much you care for your man, and the children. All these negatives can drive a wedge between you, so now being a time for new beginnings, it would be great if you could cast them aside, adopt a positive approach, and make headway towards a harmonious, family relationship. My thoughts are with you, and I will send all the positive energies I can, your way. Brightest Blessings. xx
@hey_baby (425)
• Philippines
3 Apr 08
i feel really bad about your situation. i would not know also what to do if i were in your situation. maybe you could stay with your parents while both of your emotions settle? sometimes its hard to make the right move when we are overcome by emotions. personally, i don't believe in counselling that much. i think if the couple really loves one another, they would not need a mediator. if love is only one way, then why would the other partner suffer? just be strong for your kid. don't let your husband shove you and hurt you. just pray and eventually things will get better. good luck.
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