Withdrawing from Microsoft.....

United States
April 25, 2008 1:38am CST
I have been watching the battle for Yahoo....I have stated clearly to my friends here that if yahoo goes to the gated world that I will no longer use them. Great there goes my chat, there goes my yahoo mail. I believe if I am not a part of the solution, I am a part of the problem. I do not support gates for my own reasons, not just the fact he stole things from people, tried to destroy the hackers that were not harmful, but being what a true "hacker" is, not what is considered today, or the fact that this man has made it so that most people will have to buy the new system. I know he is not in charge anymore, however his behind the scene actions are still there. I am slowly working my way to the Linux system and will be very happy when the full conversion takes place. Will this take over affect how you use the internet? Ainge
3 responses
@Jemina (5770)
30 Apr 08
I saw this discussion when you first started it but didn't really know what to say so I just shut my mouth for the meantime. Then a few days later my boyfriend and I watched "Antitrust" movie and I was saying to my boyfriend that one of the guy looked like Bill Gates. When I searched for reviews it actually was a satirical movie aimed at Bill Gates. Have you seen it yet? It really is the perfect match for this discussion.
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• United States
1 May 08
Will have to see it, no I have not seen it. Ainge
@winterose (39887)
• Canada
25 Apr 08
I doubt whoever buys yahoo affects anything down at our level, they are buying it because it will bring profit to them but how, by doing the work it has always done. So for me it makes no difference at all, I see this happen all the time in the corporate world and it means nothing done at my end.
@winterose (39887)
• Canada
26 Apr 08
I support the little guy as much as I can too. I support the little writers like myself, I buy their books and leave the big name guys alone, they don't need my money, the little guys do.
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• United States
1 May 08
Yes I very much agree with you. I know I am fortunate where I am because of where I am and there is most anything here. Thanks for the comment back. Ainge
• United States
26 Apr 08
For me it is actually more about the fact that I won't support people like that, ie...Wally world, Microsoft, and the like. It is a conscience and ethics thing for me. Microsoft is putting out their new "Vista" I believe it is called, that is what will be available and forget about Window users, it will force many to buying a system that is new and I know there are people who already have it who think it is wonderful, the "Vista" that is, however what about the Window users who can not afford "Vista". This is going to be an issue just like Digital Cable is taking over America. If you don't have it, you don't have access to it. At what point do we say stop? After Microsoft has a monopoly on the internet? I want nothing to do with Microsoft to be honest. I don't think to highly of Steve Jobs either, no matter how brilliant of a sales and marketing guy he is. Yes I know he is with Apple. I think that we, as consumers have a right to have a say, even though the companies think we do not. I refuse to shop at wally world for a reason. I do not support Microsoft or what it stands for or the person who started Microsoft. For me it is about business ethics, the reality that big companies take over the small companies all the time is true, that is why I do not support big companies. I shop at local boutiques, family owned business, and the like. This included when I lived in Maine where wally worlds are everywhere. I spent more money to help keep the small businessman alive. If more people boycotted the bigger companies, we would affect them. It is the consumer, not the company that determines the bottom line. I do see your points too, for me this is more about ethics and my conscience and in a way, my way of fighting big business. Ainge
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@santuccie (3384)
• United States
25 Apr 08
It's actually quite a story how Microsoft acquired DOS. The people who actually wrote the operating system (Digital Research) occasionally worked with Bill Gates, and he actually tried to do them a huge favor by getting them in touch with IBM to arrange a meeting, advising them to "be courteous." But there were apparently some demands IBM was making that made these people upset, so there was no deal. Gates wasn't happy with this outcome, so he started to move forward with a deal of his own. When Digital Research got wind of it, they threatened to sue IBM, who offered to market both versions of the (same) operating system, to which they agreed. When the PC hit the stores, there were the two versions: CP/M selling for an outrageous $240, and MS DOS for $40. Consumers went with the cheaper one. Digital Research had been had. The second story is about the GUI. Microsoft may have ripped this off of Apple, but it was initially Steve Jobs himself who ripped it off of Xerox. It's just that way. Business is a cutthroat arena, and always has been. Until someone gets a patent, possession is nine tenths of the law. The people who lost the IBM deal to Bill Gates respect him to this day as a "smart, ruthless business man." The saddest part of the story is that the man who actually did most of the programming is no longer with us. This isn't reason enough for me to emigrate from Windows. In fact, nothing else supports what I need to do. With all the different projects I have done, a software-based need could arise anytime. Windows is the only platform that can facilitate these needs. Second, I have over 80 portable applications (including my e-mail client) on a flashdrive. Neither Linux nor the Mac have stable enough USB support; even a USB mouse will stop responding in Linux. And I'm not just talking about one distro; it's in the Linux kernel itself. In addition, no single distro will work on all chipsets, or get online with all networking hardware. Choosing a distro doesn't always involve choosing the one you like the best; you're also limited to what will actually run on your machine. Only a few distros will run on my AMD64 laptop, and the popular Ubuntu isn't one of them. I have twelve different distros, and also a copy of Sun's Solaris operating system. Only three Linux distros worked on my laptop. Of those three, only PCLinuxOS was able to recognize my WiFi chip, yet even after it had been configured and joined the network, Web pages still would not load in the browser. If that's not confusing enough, none of the distros that work on my laptop will run on my Celeron desktop unit! And also, Linux limits me to a printer without a scanner. No distro I've ever tried supports the flatbed on my HP PSC unit. Linux just doesn't have enough third-party support. It's bad enough that it was designed for servers, and Torvalds could care less whether the existing USB drivers can handle continuous use. It's far worse that the open source community is so divided in itself; there are over 300 distros, so many that it's impossible for OEMs all to pick the same one. Until this happens, anyone who wants to use Linux is forced to do largely without in order to accommodate the operating system. And that is just outrageous; the operating system was designed to store drivers so applications wouldn't have to be confined to specific hardware, and to interface with the user so we didn't all have to learn typed commands. In short, the operating system is supposed to accommodate us. Unfortunately if you use Linux, that's not the case. And if you use it regularly, you're going to have to open the terminal sooner or later. There are too many things you can't install any other way, DVD CSS support being just one. Microsoft is the de facto standard, the necessary evil, if you will. Believe me when I say you stand to lose a whole lot more with the loss of Windows than Microsoft does with the loss of you. When I choose an operating system, I go with what can facilitate my needs. Same is the case with search engines. This is a case-by-case basis, not a choice of whose business ethics I respect the most. You said it yourself; leadership changes like the weather.
• United States
25 Apr 08
Thank you so much for all that info. I did not realize some of that. I will tell you this. I do not shop at Wally world either, no matter what town I am. I will go with out before I patron them. I know when I move over to Linux I will be giving up certain features but I will not support a man who supports genocide and has fun destroying others around him. I have 3 friends who are Linus operators so they are going to help me, thankfully and well I just hope I can do what I can with what I have. For me my work is simply my writing actually so as far as I know I am ok. I will have to learn the new programs and what not but with the helpers I have, it will work so I am told. I do know what you are saying, in my conscience though, I can not support Microsoft or anyone like that. I don't drink coffee at Starbucks either and they are all over here. I don't support Chinese products, unless I am in China Town, then I support them there. I do loose a lot of things, however my mind is ok with what I am doing. What type of business do you have? Ainge
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@santuccie (3384)
• United States
25 Apr 08
PC repair, but I'm also in school right now. it's good to know that you have 3 Linux buddies; that will certainly help. Also, since you basically use your computer only for typing, perhaps you won't miss Windows at all. As long as it plays friendly with your hardware, you will enjoy a nimble and responsive computing experience. Cheers!
• United States
26 Apr 08
That is good to know thank you. I hope you are correct. My friends told me it will be ok. It is a huge leap you know. It is mostly for my writing yes, I play games every now and then but rarely. I do wish there were more systems out there that would be more helpful to people but alas there are not. Good luck in your schooling. Ainge
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