Has there been vote rigging in the local elections?

May 8, 2008 2:29pm CST
Here's a depressingly unsurprising story from the Surrey Advertiser: http://www.surreyad.co.uk/news/2027/2027518/electoral_foul_play_suspected_again It looks like there's a strong possibility that there's been vote rigging going on in Woking, in relation to the recent local elections. Here are some choice quotes from the story: "As election fever swept the borough last week, some individuals who visited polling stations to vote in Maybury and Sheerwater were told they had already voted by post." "I saw a young Asian woman going in to vote and she was told she had already voted by post. She told them she did not ask for a postal vote and that she hadn't voted." "She said it was the second year running that this had happened and that she had been questioned about her vote." "The big question is, if this happened last year, why was something not done?" Possibly because doing something about it that would be effective would mean reversing government policy? The government's been encouraging large scale use of postal voting in an attempt to improve the turnout figures at elections. They think the fact that they were voted into power by a small minority of the population undermines their legitimacy. This is a good point, as large numbers of people do seem to think that most Members of Parliament are illegitimate - especially at Budget time. But how is anyone supposed to have confidence in an electoral process that positively encourages fraud? Postal voting is wide open to tampering - it should be a rarely-used exception to the general rule that if you want a say in who governs the country you should take the trouble to get down to the polling station and vote. And anyone who goes out to vote shouldn't have to face the possibility that their vote has already been cast by - and for - persons unknown. Otherwise democracy becomes a sick joke.
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
9 May 08
Hello Citizen_Stuart, Our U.S. Supreme Court just handed down a monumental ruling in favor of 'voter ID' requirements. Though it is long overdue, it is still very welcomed by those Americans who value honest elections. I mention this because it sounds as though Britain needs to adopt a similar legal ruling. Our 'absentee voting' policy is welcomed by many Americans. Not only those who travel and are in the U.S. Military, but by those who find polling hours to be inconvenient to their personal schedules. While I always vote in person (I am a polling judge), I know many who vote absentee as a matter of preference. It seems to me that absentee or postal voting fraud could be easily eliminated if the voter was required to submit a copy of their photo ID with their mailed-in ballot. Essentially, 'if one wishes for their vote to count, they should be willing to make the minimal effort to prove that their vote is their own'. Do you think this proposal would float in Britain?
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
10 May 08
Hello Citizen_Stuart, You're welcome! As for I.D.'s, any government that taxes it's citizens based on wages, already has a state ID system. Adding a picture to that established identification process can only serve to protect the individual citizens. For example: I don't sign the back of my credit cards; instead I write "Ask for picture ID". Yeah, it can sometimes be a pain, but if my wallet is lost or stolen, then at least I have some measure of protection against someone using my credit cards. Our government already knows our names, & federal taxpayer ID #, where we live, where we work, where we bank, what we drive, where we fly, etc... As I see it, there is no harm, no foul to building a small measure of protection for the taxpayer into that web of information by adding a photo to the ID system.
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10 May 08
Hi Ladyluna, thanks for replying. Certainly something needs doing, it's not the first time there have been problems with postal voting. I think some form of ID should be supplied - one thing I'm concerned about though, is that a lot of statists are going to use this as an excuse for promoting ID cards, which the government are trying to introduce.
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@Pitgull (1522)
• United States
8 May 08
That is absolutely atrocious.... What about the polls being closed at 6pm in Indiana?
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10 May 08
I hadn't heard about that. 6.00pm's early, a lot of people would have still been on their way home from work. What time the the polls close in other states? I think ours are open till 9.00pm.
@Pitgull (1522)
• United States
10 May 08
close at 9 here...that's what I said, every where else it is how late?