How do you define "Judgment " ?
By Gordano
@Gordano (795)
United States
May 19, 2008 10:15pm CST
Why do some people Think They will be saved while They believe in "the day of Judgment" ?
How does someone define "Judgment" if He knew in advance That He will be saved ?
It is called "The Day of Judgment" and it is Not called The Day of welcoming only some people to The Heaven.
For me, I Think The Judgment means That There is a reward for people who help others and who are dealing kindly and justly with Others and do good, and so on, and there is a penalty for Those who Harm Others.
I think That no one can know -in advance- That he will be saved while he understand the meaning of "Judgment" and There is Some people do good Things While they are Tartuffe, and all The reward they can get for their good actions is some speech from people, But God alone Know the intention of our deeds, and Only God will JUDGE all of us according to our intentions.
Quranic Quotes about the day of Judgment:
[099:006] On that Day will men proceed in companies sorted out, to be shown the deeds that they (had done).
[099:007] Then shall anyone who has done an atom's weight of good, see it!
[099:008] And anyone who has done an atom's weight of evil, shall see it.
so, what do you think ?
2 responses
@freethinkingagent (2501)
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20 May 08
The differnce my freind is that Christians believe their is the day of Atonment, this is the second coming of jesus, and then there is the day of Judgment, when the world is judged. Those who beleive that Jesus is in fact God, beleive that by their belif in him he will not judge them.
@Gordano (795)
• United States
21 May 08
Hello FTA,
But what is your Opinion about The Two Points:
- Does The Belief That One know -for sure- That he will be saved Contradict The belief That There will be a JUDGMENT ?
- What do about Those who believe In Jesus Christ as a God, so He will Not Judge Them ?
It seems Illogical to Me, Because It Leads To The Idea that a Criminal Can Believe That Jesus Is God and will Not Judge Him, so The Criminal can Commit all Kinds of Evil, and Cause Harm to Others Free of any Blame in The Day of JUDGMENT.
@freethinkingagent (2501)
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21 May 08
In a way you are correct in your saying about a crimanal. Because we are all criminals to the degree we have all sinned. This is the basic doctren of Christianty. We have all sinned and can not reconcile ourselves to a holy God. So God himself needed to redeem man from destruction, for God had said the soul who sinneth shall surly die. So how could he being holy look upon man so corrupt and say. I know I said you shall surly die and I shall judge you with my staff. (wich no man can mesure up to) So this is why God is not a duality but a singularity. It is the two fold essence of God. God the father, (father of the whole universe as he gave birth to all creation) who is invisable spirit, And God the Son, who is the physical manifistaion of God, not the offspring or child of God, but equle to God being the same with God but visible. In the old testement in the hebrew sometimes it seemed God was talking to God, The second visable God was called the "Word of God" aqs he did the speaking to the prophets. It was a physical manifastaion of God that appeared to the prophets. So to redeem mankind from sin, God asked the pysical manifastaion of himself to become flesh, to come to earth, to live a perfect sinnless life, to sacrifice himself for all of man so the sin debt could be paid in full by one man who was perfect and blamless, "a spotless lamb".
So about Judgment. There will be a judgment. But the majority of Christians have this wrong as well. When Christ returns, it is not to judge, not yet anyway. There is a resurection and a transformation that takes place. Then all the earth and all nations will be resurected. They will see Him sitting on the thrown here on eath, and all the prphets will be here as well. And all shall see that he and God are one. (not two, not the Father and the Son, But the father and the son as one being) At the end of a thousand years the deciver will be let lose again on the earth, this is when the judgement happens, Those who follow the deceiver will be judged and destroied, those who do not will be judged and given rewards.
@MinamiKesh (527)
• Philippines
20 May 08
well..i don't think when the so-called JUDGMENT time comes it will cause harm to whom did evil things here on earth and glory for those who did merciful things...
i'll bet in my viewpoint JUDGMENT time is the time that GOD will come back and see his people what happened....
he will probably let us all know that HE is just around and make us realize that NO one can ever be above him for all the goodness and blessings.....and will also get back all that he had given unto us all our entire life...
all we need now if ever the JUDGMENT time comes we are prepared already to face him whatever it may be..
*jam*
-live life- keep it simple***
@Gordano (795)
• United States
20 May 08
Romans 2:2-6
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But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth against them which commit such things.
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And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God?
4 )
Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?
5 )
But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;
6 )
Who will render to every man ACCORDING TO HIS DEEDS:
