She likes thirteen inches
By p1kef1sh
@p1kef1sh (45681)
August 2, 2008 4:51pm CST
I have been reading about the Court of Catherine de Medici in 16th century France. She set a trend that was copied by the ladies of her Court for a thirteen inch waist. If the ladies couldn't span their waists with both hands, fingers touching, then they were regarded as unfashionable and a tad porky!! They reached this narrow status by being laced, winched almost, into very tight and restrictive corsets that caused many to faint as they could not draw breath properly. Would you wear a restrictive corset to get your waist down. Would you be willing to go to thirteen inches! Have you ever worn very restrictive clothing just for the sake of fashion?
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@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
3 Aug 08
Umm...no! I would wear something that held things in place a little neater...I mean come on, after 6 kids I just don't have a flat tummy anymore! But that's as far as I'm willing to go. A 13 inch waist...absolutely not, that just sounds disgusting! Mine is a perfectly reasonable 26 inches and I'm fine with that...I wouldn't mind getting my 24 inch one back but I haven't seen it since I was 17. I can't say that I've worn resrictive clothing for the sake of fashion...unless you count the few times I was busting out of my maternity clothes but refused to buy new ones since I was due any day and was not going to look like a total slob wearing my 6ft 200 pound hubby's clothes LOL.
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@danishcanadian (28954)
• Canada
2 Aug 08
Not on your life! Just this morning I was giving my husband holy h3ll about men being attracted to overly feminine women, and then complaining about how much time they need to spend on keeping themselves that way. It also costs MONEY to remain that way too....all for the sake of fashion. Mind you my husband isn't attracted to EXTREMELY feminine women (he married ME, didn't he?) my b^tching was more general than anything. I am still pisssed off at the general male population who continues to give women the approval they seek, when they do fashionally STUPID things like that which you described above.
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
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2 Aug 08
It was 500 years ago. Heck the bra hadn't been invented let alone burnt!! LOL. I agree that there is no fashion worth harming yourself for. Mind you I've had a few pairs of shoes that have tried and I'm male!! Do I look good in these three inch heels? !!
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@34momma (13882)
• United States
5 Aug 08
OMG!! I so thought this was a whole different discussion!!
now that i got my mind out of the gutter!! i would never do that. i love everything about my woman parts. my thick waist, my thighs everything. i would not go around fainting because so crazy chicks back in the day thought it was cool to be that small
now that i got my mind out of the gutter!! i would never do that. i love everything about my woman parts. my thick waist, my thighs everything. i would not go around fainting because so crazy chicks back in the day thought it was cool to be that small

@checapricorn (16060)
• United States
4 Aug 08
Hi p1,
13 inches? ohhh..I guess I will be look sick and unhealthy with that..LOL! SO, I will not! LOL! I want of course to wear something that will look my waist down..LOL! I am 28 inches and always wanted to have 24-25 but I wasn't successful! LOL!





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@applefreak (3130)
• Singapore
6 Aug 08
wow a thirteen inch waist! i bet it's the dream of many women. however, i find that this is pretty hard to believe. our waist depends more or less on the size of our ribcage. our ribcage size in turn depends on the size of our organs. we've got the lungs, heart and stomach in the ribcage. i don't see how she can even breathe with a 13" waist. she won't be able to eat too as the stomach will be pressed against the back of the ribcage so much there's no space for food. cheers ;p
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@skinnychick (6905)
• United States
4 Aug 08
Sheesh mine would be like 7 inches if I did that. LOL
I'm trying to look a little thicker not thinner so this wouldn't work for me even for the sake of fashion. LOL
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@skinnychick (6905)
• United States
4 Aug 08
Great point my puppies could use a lift! LOL
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@laglen (19759)
• United States
5 Aug 08
No, no way, not a chance. That is just silly. I could certainly stand to lose a few pounds, but that is just crazy. This was very bad for them. Like you pointed out, the fainting thing. They would also starve themselves. How about binding the feet? OUCH!
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@Galena (9110)
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3 Aug 08
as it happens, I do wear a corset to get my waist down.
naturally my waist is about 30"through daily wearing of a corset, without the corset on I measure about 25-26" and have a much nicer shape.
I wear a made to measure 20" corset on a daily basis.
if I put fingertips to fingertips, thumbs to thumbs, if I had a third hand to add in, that would go around my waist, I reckon.
13" would simply not be possible for me. a body can only change so much. there are parts of the body that cannot be altered through corsetry.
you have to bear in mind that in those days people were smaller than they are now. you only have to look at some doorways in older buildings. so this would not have been so unnacheivable then as it would appear to be today.
for most women today, the victorian waist measurement is quite easily acheivable. surviving victorian corsets are usually 24" in size, and this is much the same as the most commonly worn size by modern women who wear corsets in their leisure time (as opposed to waist training) as a fashion garment. in fact, in victorian times, it was considered to be unladylike to tightlace to the extent of acheiving permanent waist reduction. it was a sign of loose morals. hehe.
the picture I've attached is when I was about 6 months into waist training, and wearing a 24"
it's smaller now.
it's just another form of body modification, and so long as you take it slowly and don't push your body further than it can comfortably go (and a well fitting corset is actually very comfortable) then there should be no fainting and no health risks.

@Galena (9110)
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3 Aug 08
certainly for most modern day women, 13" would be physically impossible. and not attractive.
there's a woman, Cathy Jung, who was mentioned earlier. she has a 16" waist and it looks very unnatractive, as it's too small for her shoulders and hips, and makes her too angular, rather than smooth and curvy.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
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3 Aug 08
I imagine that women (and men) were much smaller then than now. I am impressed by your own waist training. I am in desperate need of doing something about my own waist which seem to have disappeared! I have to say your photo shows a very attractive figure; and you are smaller again since then? So long as it doesn't affect a persons health then I guess that it is quite acceptable. But 13 inches seems somewhat excessive and unnatural.
@property (453)
• United States
3 Aug 08
i have a petite frame, granted, but my waist is a 24in. prior to corseting. Seems to me to have any dramatic effect a Victorian corset would be of little use in this case. But i digress, actually the size of people has not changed that much in the last 200 years. Doorways and ceilings were much lower to conserve heat. It is a very popular misconception that people were shorter. People, due to better nutrition, tend to be thicker however. Good luck with the waist training, i wear corsets for very different reasons... if mine were comfortable i'd be most disappointed.

@kbourgerie (8780)
• United States
3 Aug 08
If they put a corset on me and cinched it to 13 inches my head would blow up to the size of the Good Year Blimp and my eyes would look like something from the movie Roger Rabbit. I would literally explode into bits of flesh all over the room. What a horrible sight that would be. As for your question, oh yes, of course, I have worn restrictive clothing for the sake of fashion and sometimes still do, but find I am doing it less and less. Lets take shoes for example, for the most part I wear comfortable shoes, after all, I'm on my feet all day, but that doesn't stop me from buying high heels that are cute and sexy, that I will probably wear once or twice but will look marvelous in my closet.
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@ruby222 (4847)
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3 Aug 08
Years ago when we first married the pantie girdle in vogue,and yes I was the proud owner of not one or two ,but lol quite a few of them!!and I never ever went out wothout wearing one.Yes they did a good job,but the flesh that was pushed in had to escape somehow,so it slid out of the top!and of course it helped resist amourous advances,there was no room for any movement!A thirteen inch waist,well maybe thats more like my ankle measurement!but I really dont know how there ladies withstood the pain and agony of it all,and im sure they must have difficulty with eating and drinking..let alone breathing..and nowadays we have the `wrap`..the body stocking that `holds it all in`,and Piky,im not into any of them,im just staying exactly the way I am!

@saundyl (9783)
• Canada
6 Aug 08
I think i would be one to stay on the "porky" side. I've never been one to follow the fads and fashions. Half the time the "in" thing makes me so mad because it doesnt look good on a normal average not stick thin person. PLUS you can rarely find anything but the in thing.
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
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6 Aug 08
I know what you mean. I have a 19 year old daughter who complains all the time about fashion. She has enough clothes to start her own store, but she's always looking for something new. The idea of living a corseted lifestyle is not really one for me. Although I have had on respondent who I think looks stunning in her corset - Galena.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
4 Aug 08
No lol. I have a relatively small waist anyway, I think it's 24 or 25 inches. When I was younger I think it was 22. Since having my daughter and being 10 years older, I think it is physically impossible for me to get back to 22 or less. I'm not complaining, don't get me wrong, but I like to breathe and be comfortable. I am only fashion forward to the point where it intersects with rationality. 

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@property (453)
• United States
3 Aug 08
i actually own several corsets... and yes... i wear them drawn so tight i am breathless. Oxygen is highly over-rated. i'm a tiny woman to start with so for me the corset actually adds curves. i have passed out just from sitting down, because the corsets boning cut into me just right (or wrong?). Really the only point of a corset is for aesthetics, it is not designed for comfort. i can see how it wouldn't work for everybody, and i don't by any means wear them everyday...or for long lengths of time. Nearly everything in my wardrobe is for aesthetics though. My heals are all 5 in. or higher. Even my winter coats are more fashion forward than practical. So i guess i fall into the i'd rather look good than be comfortable pile if we are sorting.

@p1kef1sh (45681)
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3 Aug 08
I used to have a colleague who dressed for show rather than comfort. I remember one winter when the snow was all around she wore a minidress and high heeled open toe sandals. That was it. She had goose bumps the size of Mt Everest on her arms. I wore a heavy overcoat and even offered it to her (what a gent!) but she declined and shivered through the rest of our trip!! Do be careful with your corsets and passing out though. Make sure that there's someone there to cut the cords!
@property (453)
• United States
3 Aug 08
Well, i defy anyone to design a well fitting corset that is both comfortable and will restrict your waist to 13 inches. Course it wouldn't be fun to wear if it didn't involve a second party to cinch the corset closed in the back and leave you breathless in my opinion... i may have deep psychological issues admittedly. p1ke, As for your college's open toe sandals in snow, didn't she own boots? The winters get pretty frigid here...i prefer to wear tall boots with high heels...frost bitten toes are certainly not fashionable! And no need to worry about me needing the cords cut, i can't even get into my corsets properly without assistance. :p

@renitaperrone (547)
• United States
4 Aug 08
OMG!! Um...NO! I would not wear clothing that restrictive. Even when I was really thin, 13 inch waist would have been impossible! I do not believe that could be considered healthy in any way, shape or form.
And I definitely get categorized in the "porky" category!!! 
And I definitely get categorized in the "porky" category!!! 
@deebomb (15304)
• United States
3 Aug 08
I saw a woman on the TV the other night with a waist about that size. She looked like she would break if the wend blew. She had about ugliest shape I ever saw. She really looked like an hour glass. I can imagine how miserable Countess of Catherine de Medici had to be. There is no way I would want to be that miserable as she had to be.Way back in the 60s we did wear girdles and I sure was glad when they went out of fashion. They not only held you in they also caused gas. I'm glad I'm past the age that fashion really matters. I just like to look nice and neat.

@Galena (9110)
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3 Aug 08
if you mean Cathy Jung, she's about 16" if I remember right, and she's clearly taken it too far for her body shape.
instead of a lovely hourglass curve, she looks like two triangles point to point, which is not attractive.
a corset should accentuate curves, not turn you into a bundle of sharp angles.

@SViswan (12051)
• India
3 Aug 08
I've been blessed with a slim waist but 13 inches is not something I will strive for. I recently saw a woman with a 13 inch waist on an Oprah Winfrey show. I didn't think it was attractive (but hey! who knows...she probably liked it).
I don't try to follow the trend...I try to wear what looks good on me....wel, if my waist was wider than I liked, I'd rather wear something that gave the impression of a narrow waist than something that was restrictive for the sake of fashion.
@WhatsHerName (2716)
• United States
3 Aug 08
Na, I'm quite happy with my 30" waist which makes my jean size a perfect 10. I can't even imagine wearing one of those corsets. They used to take hours to put on, I would have to get up an hour early just to get dressed...


@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
16 Aug 08
Back in the days when I was a size 12, I had a pair of jeans that were a famous brand I can't think of the name for. I used to have to lie down to do them up. They simply had no shape and were really tough denim. Once I had them on for a while they would stretch slightly and be comfy. These days if things are too tight the excess me bulges out somewhere else and is not a good look, I'm into really loose fitting comfy things now (shame on me).
The idea of a tiny waist like that is making me slightly physically ill. It would look so unnatural with the ribs and pelvis sticking out as it would....yuck!


@sacmom (14192)
• United States
3 Aug 08
With a title like that I thought you were talking about something else!
LOL
Whether or not I was into fashion there is no way I would put myself through that! Not only would it be uncomfortable and unhealthy, but it is rather gross looking to have a waist that small. I'd rather wear comfy old sweats any day!
LOL
LOL
Whether or not I was into fashion there is no way I would put myself through that! Not only would it be uncomfortable and unhealthy, but it is rather gross looking to have a waist that small. I'd rather wear comfy old sweats any day!
LOL
@sacmom (14192)
• United States
5 Aug 08
How do you know?
Maybe I would have been like Amelia Earhart and worn my bloomers!
LOL
Maybe I would have been like Amelia Earhart and worn my bloomers!
LOL@Galena (9110)
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3 Aug 08
actually, removing ribs would mean that any reduction you acheived would be lost very quickly on removing the corset.
the bottom two ribs are not attached at the front of the ribcage, so are more flexible.
a corset helps to move these ribs so that they sit in a more tapered position to the fixed ribs, and accentuate the curve of the waist. this is the long term change corsets give (as opposed to permanant, as they will move back out over a few months, or with some people even weeks without wearing the corset)


























