Vietnam War II
@redyellowblackdog (10629)
United States
September 5, 2008 6:36am CST
Yes, it is true.
It is conceivable there could someday be a second Vietnam War. Here's a little background.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcb_china/20080905/wl_mcb_china/havingfunatvietnamsexpense
I say that if the Chinese truely need to conquer Vietnam to become dominate in Asia, then if the Vietnamese should ask for help, we might have to give it. Is that irony or what?
What do you say?
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
5 Sep 08
Under certain conditions with limitations, yes, I would consider helping Vietnam in a war against China, if China was threatening world peace and needed to be stopped early.

@James72 (26790)
• Australia
5 Sep 08
Surely it is time for me to start in my own section now! lol. As part of my "dumb day" attitude I seem to be having I just realised I have been discussing these points in someone else's section..... To deal with China's politico's takes extreme savvy. To be honest I doubt that someone like Obama has the mettle for this yet. Not at this stage of his career. It takes a very calculated balance of forcefulness, cultural respect and tolerance to make inroads with the Chinese. I deal with this country constantly with my work and it is not easy!
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
5 Sep 08
Yep, when most of China becomes like Hong Kong, that's it. China will be in charge of the world. India, certainly has the potential, too. The USA is becoming too fat, dumb, and content to remain world leader.
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
5 Sep 08
A friends wife went to China many years ago for her company and found the Chinese to be not trustworthy to the point she recommended her company not deal with them. Today, I think things are a little better, but not much.
In the 1960's I listened to Radio Peking and laughed my butt off at them because their lies were so transparent and stupid to me, only a teen-ager. Today, CRI, China Radio International, is quite sophisticated in comparison. If current trends continue, China will rule the world someday.
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
5 Sep 08
Oh they will! China and India as far as I am concerned. They have a massive combined share of industry and their local stock markets are becoming more and more powerful. China especially is not overly dependent on the European and US market forces as many other countries are and the spread of captilistic views in major centres such as Shanghai will fuel the fire considerably as well. We have yet to see even the tip of the iceberg of China's influence.
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@gewcew23 (8007)
• United States
5 Sep 08
The domino effect says that if Vietnam fall South East Asia will fall too. How odd would it be if Vietnam had to turn to us for help? Who else could help Vietnam against China except us, maybe Russia. Russia might want to build up its presence in South East Asia and this conflict would do the trick, but I do not know if Russia wants to mess with it. The big question that would have to be asked is what do we get out of it. Protecting Vietnam from China would cost us a large trading partner, so Vietnam would have to give us some thing to make it worth our while. I know that we trade with Vietnam and actually the trade is pretty equal, we buy rice and catfish they buy something, I really do not know but they must be buying something because we do not have a trade deficit with them.
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
5 Sep 08
Your points demonstrate quite well that it is not a simple question with an easy answer.
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@speakeasy (4171)
• United States
5 Sep 08
If this situation does come to pass, I would definately prefer to have McCain in the White House than Obama.
McCain can literally say "been there, done that". He knows the conditions and he knows what mistakes were made and should be able to avoid repeating them.
Obama would problably want to sit down and have tea with the Chinese and "talk things over" while the Chinese roll right over Viet Nam.
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
6 Sep 08
Count me also amoung those who would rather see McCain deal with this. However, we really are talking about events at least a decade or two in the future.
@Destiny007 (5805)
• United States
5 Sep 08
Ok, I must be missing something here. As I recall, when our cowardly democrat Congress compelled our winning military to leave Vietnam, thus causing us to lose the war... we were fighting Communists, who are normally quite friendly to other Communists.
Unless something has changed in Vietnam that somehow escaped my notice, then why in the hell would we want to go back to Vietnam, to help a former enemy fight against other Communists... and what kind of idiot would even dream of forcing a head on confrontation with China in the first place?
Somehow I think Americans are not going to be overly open to the idea of going back to Vietnam/// hell, they can't stomach a few years in Iraq, which is something that we and the Iraqi government are also winning, yet the cowardly democrat Congress wants to once again pull defeat from the jaws of victory.
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
5 Sep 08
You are quite right that the USA would not go back easily to Vietnam. It would have to be overwhelmingly obviously in our best interest to do so. The point of the article is that to contain China, we might someday have to do so (go back to Vietnam) even if it is with great reluctance. On the plus side, this would be at least 20 years from now by my estimation.
@baileycows (3665)
• United States
5 Sep 08
My question and not to be ugly to anyone. Why do we keep having to stick our nose in other countries business if they are not bothering us. Our military should not have to take up slack when someone wants to start a stupid war. Our boys and girls have been through to much. I think we should focus more on protecting our own country and bringing our soldiers home for rest.
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
5 Sep 08
An intelligent foreign policy based on your thinking could be formulated. Unfortunately, the majority of Americans will not elect leaders who think like this. It would save many lives, American and foreign to do as you suggest. The now finished last presidential campaign of Ron Paul advocated a foreign policy similar to yours. Yours is a good idea. How do we get Americans to vote for it?
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@baileycows (3665)
• United States
5 Sep 08
Well i dont have an answer for you there, b/c it just amazes me of what ppl want to vote for now with raised taxes and other stuff. I think the problem with our voting system is the american people in general are uneducated and fail to do their own research when learning about someone. It is easier for the candidates to have a debate and give their spill and then we choose. We should each individually do our own research before voting. Voting without education could do more harm than not voting.
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
5 Sep 08
I agree that more education as to Ron Paul's foreign policy would have gotten him more votes.



Having me another one of those dumb days I think! Assisting any country against China is dangerous ground.



